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      Is it possible to LD without waiting for REM?

      Yeah, my question is as the title states: "Is it possible to Lucid Dream without being in REM sleep?"

      I've been curious about this for a while now...

      Thanks in advanced.
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      Personally, I wouldn't stick to the scientific concepts too strongly.
      I imagine: if you're dreaming, you could be lucid.

      I read LaBerge's book with explanations of the sleep cycles a while ago so I don't even remember exactly whether the REM stage is on the same level but a different stage from delta sleep and whatnot but if that's the case then I imagine that you can be lucid at any stage that causes dreams. When you're dreaming, you could become aware of it.

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      Hey there,

      Like Merlock said, it's possible, yes. There's been reports of people who've done it (I'm one of those people).

      That said, it's a lot less probable though. Generally speaking it's a lot harder to get lucid during non-REM dreams, and when you do, it's a lot harder to make them solid and real enough to actually be anything more then a fleeting collection of vague sensations.

      Speaking for myself, i've been lucid dreaming for some fifteen years, and can probably still count the amount of non-REM lucid dreams on the fingers of my two hands. All of them, except for three or so non-REM wilds were accidental too.

      But it can be done, although it's probably not something I'd recommend actively pursuing unless you're actually interested in the phenomenon itself.

      Just my 2 cents,

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      Well, this is going to fly in the face of accepted "wisdom" about LDing, but I aver that it's possible to LD without even falling asleep first. I've done it myself and it was a big shock to my system, I can tell you. You need a very high standard of visualisation to do it, but if you have that, it's eminently possible.

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      I see... So it's possible, but not nearly as vivid? Interesting.

      I haven't succesfully WILDed yet, but I wanted to know if it was possible because I have trouble performing my WBTB, let alone remaining conscious after waking.
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      i guess being lucid during the hypnagogic phase that precedes sleep could indeed qualify as LD, though its not REM yet... and therefore, unstable and no so vivid... i second redrivertears opinion, and i myself have done it...
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