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      Does marijuana help with lucid dreaming?

      Without getting too specific (I don't know how the admins feel about discussing the use of marijuana), do any users on the forum feel that smoking before going to bed can help to attain lucidity? I know that it does tend to open the mind up, so it would seem to make sense that it would help you to take control of your mind in the sleeping state. I'm a newbie to LDing, but I (may or may not) have done my fair share of marijuana, and I'm just curious as to what you guys have experienced.

      PS. Admins, if this discussion is not allowed, please forgive me and close the thread, I'm just curious as to other people's experiences with marijuana and lucid dreaming.

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      If there's a reason it shouldnt be allowed its just cos your so wayyy off..
      I'd want weed to be like calea zakatechichi (go look it up) but the fact (sad fact) is that both alcohol and weed are amazing dream destroyers.. you just dont dream- or it makes dream recall neer-impossible.. i can tell you that after travling in india for 6 months the dreams you 100% recall though are very vivid, but when not using or drinking I get to recall neerly every dream, with- you have a dream about once a month, and its probly' cos you had nothing to smoke that day..
      Dont use drugs if you wanna luci, use the drugs that help luckly- they'r even legal..
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      Ancient shamans used weed to induce WILDs more faster and to improve the experience... but, it will only help you if you are already good at WILDing. If you're not good at WILD, it's useless trying it on weed. (good means 100% succesrate)

      But, it's also very true, which I can confirm from my own experiences, that your dream recall will be, indeed, totally destroyed. I'm quite sure you have more vivid dreams since you sleep very well when you smoked, but they are kinda useless if you can't remember them :p
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      Have you read something about melatonin and seratonin?
      just have a look about this on the web and you will notice that it is not needed any other kind of drug but your pineal gland self made melatonin and seratonin.

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      I've heard it makes your recall quite bad, and I've only heard that it hurts your ability if anything.

      Also it should not be a problem in posting this, there are frequent threads about drugs and how they effect lucid dreaming.



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      It is broken.

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      Crap.

      It was the search results for marijuana, in the dreaming sections of the forum. Since this question is often asked, there are already many threads on it.

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      My opinion:

      I'm 20 and I go to the Univ. of Chicago.
      6 months ago I began experimenting (true sense of the word) with the ganja and finally ended after many painstaking attempts of trying to quit. Contrary to what you may hear, it is addicting as a mother fucker. In retrospect, marijuana will only make you more depressed and lazy, not allow you to recall a single dream, make your mind hazy, make you think disagreeable things...in a few words: it will fuck you up. Though, it does give a clear introspect into certain things (if you are intelligent enough to actually use Knowledge and contemplate meaningful things...unlike stupid skaters and stupidasses who smoke pot for 'the giggles' or whatever) However, if you do decide to try it, you'll soon enough see what I'm trying to say.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Box77 View Post
      Have you read something about melatonin and seratonin?
      just have a look about this on the web and you will notice that [marijuana] is not needed [or] any other kind of drug but your pineal gland self made melatonin and seratonin.
      Very good point indeed.

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      If you don't mind having stoned dreams then while not. The bad thing about marijuana is those ridicules loud high frequency pitches. That would actually fuck you up if you smoke too much. So it's fucked up. Weed isnít design for crack heads. What I mean by crack is people with cracked mentality. That will put you in a bad light in one fucked up dimension.

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      Hah yeah thats not against the rules. There was one like this on Saliva before

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      I would say I am a fairly constant user of marijuana (every day, only at night). When i first started to lucid dream, I would remember maybe one dream a week.This was about 3-4 months ago. Now I remember at least 3 dreams a week and I have had over 15 lucids so far. I'm pretty sure if I would quit smoking, my dreams would be more vivid and I would get more lucid dreams. I believe marijuana makes it harder to lucid dream but not impossible. It's just an other barrier to get over.

      I do get alot stronger HI when I go to sleep high though, and fall into sleep paralysis faster too.
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      Quote Originally Posted by fy_iceworld View Post
      My opinion:

      I'm 20 and I go to the Univ. of Chicago.
      6 months ago I began experimenting (true sense of the word) with the ganja and finally ended after many painstaking attempts of trying to quit. Contrary to what you may hear, it is addicting as a mother fucker. In retrospect, marijuana will only make you more depressed and lazy, not allow you to recall a single dream, make your mind hazy, make you think disagreeable things
      being an ex-stoner myself that had previously smoked everyday for about a year i can completely and honestly agree with every point you make. weed completely destroys my ability to recall and dream altogether. however, i do agree that if you are extremely experienced in WILDing there might be a chance of entering into the wild faster and making your dream more random. if you can't remember it whats the point in trying so hard. if your screwed up on drugs in your dream there will be no point in looking for hidden meanings or trying to relate your dream to life.

      in general, if I smoked within 6 hours of bed time... there was no point in trying to lucid. after quitting things drastically started to improve including my breathing lol. some people are diehard stoners, believe me i know, i live around them... however, there are many things that you become impaired of, it all boils down to what outweighs what... sitting there like a lazy screw up and wasting your life and forgetting your past, or being able to get a real job and remember your life and not be lazy.

      by no means am i saying do or don't, i'm just giving advice so each person can make their own decision upon their lifestyle. personally, a little every once in a while is fun enough for me.

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      I remember one member saying that he smoked one at a party and he hadn't had recall since. He smoked it two years ago. If that's not a deterrent I don't know what is.

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      About a month ago I smoked a lot before bed and still had three lucid dreams that night. It depends how well/frequently you can lucid dream. Weed supresses REM sleep, but if you're used to smoking and lucid dreaming it's not a problem. If you go to bed, wake up early, smoke weed, and go back to bed, it can produce better results than the normal WBTB method.

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      soooo... while i dont think that marijuana necessarily helps your ability to lucid, i think that if you already have good recall that you can overcome that barrier even if it might impair recall slightly.

      Quote Originally Posted by Tom187 View Post
      in general, if I smoked within 6 hours of bed time... there was no point in trying to lucid. after quitting things drastically started to improve including my breathing lol. some people are diehard stoners, believe me i know, i live around them... however, there are many things that you become impaired of, it all boils down to what outweighs what... sitting there like a lazy screw up and wasting your life and forgetting your past, or being able to get a real job and remember your life and not be lazy.

      by no means am i saying do or don't, i'm just giving advice so each
      person can make their own decision upon their lifestyle. personally, a little every once in a while is fun enough for me.
      but i dont think that "sitting there like a lazy screw up and wasting your life and forgetting your past" is really not saying dont.

      i smoked a lot in high school but knew that when i came to college i would have to cut down a lot. which i have...
      i still smoke occasionaly, i think weed will be a part of my life for a while to come, but it doesn't have to screw up your life if you know how to moderate.
      but this kind've comes with all things dont you think?

      i know people that dont have the kind of will power to control themselves and have let it screw up/ waste their lives, but if you have will power to tell yourself when is a good time, and when is not, you can live normally and still smoke occasionally ( a few times a week or month).
      but i do not agree when people are uneducated about it (not saying you, im just saying ppl that ive heard talk about it) and say oh it killed so and so, is really bad for you blah blah blah.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Pancaka View Post
      I remember one member saying that he smoked one at a party and he hadn't had recall since. He smoked it two years ago. If that's not a deterrent I don't know what is.
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      Weed is not good for recall, or lucid dreaming.

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      Sorry to resurrect a dead post, but it came up on google.

      I attempted to lucid dream a few months ago but gave up in around august when it didnt work. However, i have been sleeping stoned for the past few nights (and it helps me sleep ) and my dreams have been as vivid as they have ever been. I forgot them pretty quickly, of course (THC affects short term memory, as im sure you know), but i always wake up early, with about 30 minute window where i remember that dream, perfect to write it down. Two nights ago, after reminding myself about lucid dreaming and being inspired to try it again, i started doing more RCs and WILD attempts etc. Last night, i went to sleep stoned, and had my second EVER dream where i dreamed i became lucid (but didn't). So im going to try and sleep sober tonight and see if i can recall my dream. Hopefully thinking about the relationship of weed and lucid dreaming may help trigger a RC. Who knows.

      Also, i imagine its VERY difficult to WILD while high, you just think WAY too much, a constant train of thought. Ill give it a go anyway.

      And the fact that i wake up very early, regardless and for some unknown reason, sober, may help with WBTB (i think its called that, wake back to bed if i remember correctly).

      EDIT: Also, if i end up LDing, ill probably cut back on the cannabis because they are probably as awesome as each other (LD is probably better,)
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      For me, whether or not I can have LD's depends more on how well rested I am. The less tied my brain is, the better my chances. I've had the most luck with DEILD's or WBTB's. Of course, I've had equal success with a W&B BTB

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      however, garlic might....

      back in the day, when i did that sort of thing, i found it destroyed my ability to become lucid or recall any dreams....i am, however, coming to the conclusion that eating garlic before bed seems to stimulate and enhance dreaming, and hence, recall...i would be curious if anyone has any experience with other foods, herbs, etc, that does the same for them...

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      Quote Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba View Post
      Ancient shamans used weed to induce WILDs more faster and to improve the experience... but, it will only help you if you are already good at WILDing. If you're not good at WILD, it's useless trying it on weed. (good means 100% succesrate)

      But, it's also very true, which I can confirm from my own experiences, that your dream recall will be, indeed, totally destroyed. I'm quite sure you have more vivid dreams since you sleep very well when you smoked, but they are kinda useless if you can't remember them :p
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      Marijuana is good for a sleep aid, but not so great in the department of dream recall.

      And lol at users saying it makes you lazy. Please

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      I'm in the exact situation right now, quit smoking again and my dream recall is fantastic as in 3 a night at least

      I used to be an all day smoker in my 20 and early 30's, then a daily nightime (right after work until bed) maybe 1 to 2 joints a night

      i agree with zero recall maybe one a month if lucky or an especially crazy dream. IMO weed and dream recall do not mix but i must say besides making you tired and maybe a little uninspired its not as bad as some make it out to be to each his own i guess

      within 2 days of quitting its all back though... Iam starting to believe some people's opinions of using it as a wilding tool in WOBTB situation

      not smoking and being wrapped up in this lucid thing again 2 1/2 weeks now has really messed up my sleeping (its 2 am right now went to bed at 10 30 woke up 5 minutes to write my dream at 12 ish and havent been able to fall asleep after tosiing and turning for an hour ....now i just get up and do something (like come here or play online poker)and go back to bed.

      funny thing is i dont feel like its messing up my days and dont feel extra tired at all ...is it possible i dont need 7 -8 hrs of sleep?
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