Reverse Blinking really works

**JamesLD** · 10-15-2009 10:26 PM

I read about reverse blinking a couple days ago here on the forum and ive been using it the last couple nights to fall asleep and its insane how effective it is. within like 5-10 minutes i would be just dead tired and one night i even started feeling like i was falling through my bed. i have yet to try it with a WILD but i soon will.

for those of you that dont know about reverse blinking check it out, http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=24607

oh and in the past when i have felt that falling through my bed feeling my breathing would immediately increase and become deeper and all i can do is focus on my body and it never goes anywhere. ive heard that that feeling has something to do with sleep paralysis and falling into deeper sleep, is that true? and if so what can i do to not let that feeling effect me so i can enter sleep paralysis?

**KingYoshi** · 10-15-2009 11:15 PM

I used reverse blinking combined with WILD a few times before and it worked really well getting my body ice and tired. I had completely forgot about it. That truly is good stuff right there

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As for the breathing, it is ok if you can feel it. The key is to not focus too much attention on it. You have to try to get your attention on something else. I suggest letting your mind wonder. Try thinking some random thoughts and casually observing them. If you are getting some HI you can watch it as well. If your HI is limited, try listening to the sounds around you. Just try to relax and act as if you are relaxing on a pool side/beach/etc.

Really, it just takes some practice and you will get more and more used SP and WILDing. After some successful attempts you will figure out which "mindset" works best for you. Good Luck!

**Harper** · 10-16-2009 01:25 PM

I had missed that particular tutorial. And here I thought I'd read it all. LOL. Anyway, I tried it last night and yeah, that really works. I didn't expect it to work so quickly. Thanks for pointing me to this!

**Muggler** · 10-16-2009 01:52 PM

lucidreamsavy just sent me this! I think this will be super beneficial to my attempts for my first WILD!

**Loaf** · 10-16-2009 10:18 PM

Looks really promising. The user opinions here support that too. I am going to try it tonight then!

**yuriythebest** · 10-16-2009 10:21 PM

will try it also sounds most intriguing- I hope my visualization abilities will suffice

**yuriythebest** · 10-17-2009 03:12 PM

ok I tried it several times during the night- I was lying down very still and comfortable and opening my eyes every 5-10 seconds. didn't get an LD but the first time I definitely went into SP (and by that I mean I felt a "distance" between me and my body and everything suddenly became much quieter and darker) unfortunately my eyes opened and in the next attempts I was unable to achieve this

question: you said you have to open your eyes just long enough to focus on something- what if it's dark and I don't see anything? also I open my eyes for 1-2 seconds is that correct?

**Bizarre Jester** · 10-17-2009 04:14 PM

interesting, I'll have to try that.

**Loaf** · 10-17-2009 08:35 PM

I did it in the day to see how it went I got SP really quick, but not LD.
Last night with a combination of Yoshis WILD + WBTB and reverse blinking, I got an amazing LD in the late hours of the morning.

**JamesLD** · 10-17-2009 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by yuriythebest

question: you said you have to open your eyes just long enough to focus on something- what if it's dark and I don't see anything? also I open my eyes for 1-2 seconds is that correct?

i really dont think it matters, i always do it when its pitched black and it always works. and i just open my eyes for 1 sec, but you can do whatever seems to work for you.

**yuriythebest** · 10-17-2009 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by JamesLD

i really dont think it matters, i always do it when its pitched black and it always works. and i just open my eyes for 1 sec, but you can do whatever seems to work for you.

splendid will try it in 15 mins or so (about to go to sleep)

now that you have discovered this technique though, what is your success rate with it?

**Loaf** · 10-17-2009 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by yuriythebest

splendid will try it in 15 mins or so (about to go to sleep)

now that you have discovered this technique though, what is your success rate with it?

The fact after I discovered it I got lucid within 48 hours says enough.

**JamesLD** · 10-18-2009 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by yuriythebest

splendid will try it in 15 mins or so (about to go to sleep)

now that you have discovered this technique though, what is your success rate with it?

100% success rate. ive used it every night since i learned about it, its truly amazing, i now have no problems falling asleep at night.

i have yet to try it with the WILD yet, but ill let you guys know how it goes when i do it. it will be awesome if it helps cause ive never had a successful WILD yet

**KingYoshi** · 10-18-2009 05:06 AM

When I used the reverse blinking, I opened and closed my eyes as fast as a normal blink. I didn't take time to focus on anything while they were open. I found that this worked better (for me) than leaving them open for a longer period of time (1+ seconds).

**TheWeirdnessSymposium** · 10-18-2009 09:05 AM

I agree with KingYoshi and James LD.

My best experiences with RB come from blinking-to-open almost as quickly as I normally blink-to-shut.

I often have problems getting back to sleep after writing in my DJ during the night. RB knocked me out three times last night. And quickly too!

RB and Lucidity

I tried an experiment last night - in the five-second gap between "blinks" I used the affirmation, "I know I'm dreaming". I did not achieve lucidity.

**yuriythebest** · 10-18-2009 11:28 AM

i have yet to try it with the WILD yet, but ill let you guys know how it goes when i do it. it will be awesome if it helps cause ive never had a successful WILD yet

wait- I sorta assumed RB should be tried while lying still on your back like in WILD and not moving- that's how I was attempting it. The first time I did get SP but later than night (and also today) I have tried it several times without much success- I just gave up and rolled over. now I understand you can move a bit while you attempt it and also you can attempt any position? will try tonight...

100% rate is pretty tantalizing... JamesLD do you have skype?

**Majinaki** · 10-18-2009 05:21 PM

so im going to assume that when using RB'n to goto SP the body thinks that your asleep ('cus your about to be) while the brain stays active( 'cus it's blinking) annnd somehow the two signals (false sleep and rb'n brain) get mixxed up and then cause the SP

soo with a "100%" succes rate for an experiance ld'er im going to take a wild guess and say that amatures are gonna get like a 71% chance to have it work.... annd 40% is high enough for me.. THANKS FOR THE INFO...
TESTING TIIIME

**Loaf** · 10-18-2009 09:53 PM

I have been having problems getting passed SP, but I have tried reverse blinking and have also had a 100% success rate (however I have only done it twice).

**ldwithadhd** · 10-18-2009 10:03 PM

these type of things usually dont work with me since im super tired in the first place cause i take concerta so i have to take clonadine at 7:30 so it makes me SUPER tired at 9:30 so thats probably why i have ALOT of trouble getting a lucid dream.

**TheWeirdnessSymposium** · 10-18-2009 11:14 PM

I've just used RB and WILDed. I changed my approach a little this time: I used RB but kept going until it felt like my eyelids were going to cry from exhaustion, and my eyelids wouldn't have the energy to keep blinking for much longer. When I closed my eyes I carried on with the mantra/affirmation I'd been using during the RBing.

It's not purely down to RBing I'm sure because I've been using self-hypnosis during the day. And I managed it on going to bed (without WBTB) most probably because of a Rem-rebound experiment I've been doing with my prescription pills.