I don't think there should be this divide between the two techniques as separate pursuits at all. The approach for both is the same, training in self-awareness and memory. If you do enough self awareness work to become proficient in WILD then you are going to have DILDs by virtue of that increased mindfulness. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Freaking dogs. |
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I need help in that I fall asleep too easily and lose focus very quickly. I'm an experienced meditator but it doesn't translate into staying with an alert mind while sleeping. That drive to want to sleep and relax just takes me over 9/10 times within a minute or two into WILD. I have had success with WILD but much much more with SSILD. Of course I do the MILD work as a foundation. I have also noticed that sometimes doing SSILD has bridged me into extremely coherent WILD LD's. Maybe SSILD acts as my "mantra" or way of staying mentally alert enough to transition without losing focus. Maybe that's how SSILD really works? |
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Despite what any tutorial says (I had to look up SSILD) there are only 2 categories of LD. WILD ( going from awake into a dream) and DILD (starting in a non-lucid and becoming lucid). Of course people love to claim they made a new one. I had to look up SSILD just now, as I never looked into it. It claims to be a hybrid, but it is just like any WILD. It claims this because if you do not get into a dream, then it enhances the chances of an LD later in the night. Well, that is exactly what WILD does. A failed WILD is the best set up to induce a DILD. |
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Hi Sivason, |
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Last edited by MisakaMikoto; 08-04-2014 at 07:02 PM.
I'm back! Again? Uhhh..
I need help doing a wild. I would get up six hours later, stay up with tv on, go to sleep, experience sleep paralysis, hear noise(no hypnogic imagery) then i wake up pissed and frustrated. The next attempt, right when the noise was gone and I experienced sleep paralysis, i opened my eyes. This is the first time i opened my eyes because I was scared i would see ghost when i wake up. Instead i opened them slowly and I saw my room in a blurry-like matter with a slight hole in my bed. Was I in a dream, if so why was I in my room? If i succeeded, how do i know when to open my eyes just in case i wake up in paralysis? |
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Hi, |
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Last edited by MisakaMikoto; 08-14-2014 at 12:29 PM.
I'm back! Again? Uhhh..
Staying in one position, too awake, staying in another, too sleepy. WILD is that space between awake and asleep and then going to sleep. I switch right before I go to sleep usually. It has always worked best for me to go from awake position to asleep position and not the other way around. |
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i use melatonin to fall asleep is that a problem? (i have to take them to fall asleep since i have adhd) |
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@Sivason: Yes! Fantastic post! Please write more on the mechanics of WILD. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
Revolutionary? How about sad? |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
I can do sleep paralysis easily but I can't WILD. I typically sleep at around 11 pm and set my alarm to 4:15 am. I stay awake for a while then fall asleep. When I wake up I don't move at all. At this point I get sleep paralysis. But nothing happens. I swallow a few times and my eyes moved rapidly. But then.....nothing. |
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Hi, |
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I'm back! Again? Uhhh..
I have a question about WILD. I have been practicing this method for as long as I can remember but to no avail. I haven't given up though. Last night, I was more determined than ever to remain conscious and complete a WILD. |
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^^ bwink97, I hear you. WILD is tricky when starting from fully awake for people who do not fall asleep easily. One thing about very strong intention is that it can definitely keep you awake. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
Think of wild as shooting a bow and arrow. You need to have the right vertical (awareness) and the right horizontal (timing) to hit it correctly. If you are just laying in bed from waking trying to keep your awareness as high as you can, it is like sitting on a merry go round blindfolded and someone is spinning you around in circles and you trying to hit the target, your answer to the fact that you don't know where you are aiming is to aim as high as you can (Keep awareness up). |
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Awesome. Thanks for the advice. So what you are saying is, I don't need to focus on remaining highly aware. But instead just slowly let my awareness decrease without getting to low and then slipping into a dream? Upon approaching sleep more and more I decrease my awareness more and more? |
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Just be sure, Bwink97, that you retain your self-awareness throughout your effort. |
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Last edited by Sageous; 12-04-2014 at 09:20 AM.
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