The disorientation does serve to force one to adjust one's attitude, though, toward a more mindful one. I recommend trying it. |
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Yes, thinking in retrospect the answer to whether or not meditation gets more intense does seem to be "no". It is definitely unpredictable at the larger doses and I think at that point meditation becomes more of a tool to navigate and/or deal with the state of mind which is present. Even at more reasonable and small doses, someone might as well just use music, chanting, ect instead of a psychedelic. |
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The disorientation does serve to force one to adjust one's attitude, though, toward a more mindful one. I recommend trying it. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I would say that for the curious (and safe) people, definitely go for it though! Just keep in mind it isn't your warm milk or green tea before you go to bed, its profound and facilitates changes at any dosage. At least with what I've found, knowing how to focus and initiate a meditative state of mind, and then experiencing shrooms, is like bypassing the amount of practice it would usually take to reach that place. Again though, it can be subjective and so it won't be the same for everyone, but it can be worthwhile for a serious explorer. |
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Sure, it's not green tea, and if you can't go with flow, you're going to have a bad time. When I was instructed in kundalini, I was told not to practice the specific meditation I was learning while on drugs because you will open up the chakras faster than you're ready and the results can be unpredictable and even permanently damaging. I did anyways and it was fucking amazing, I felt like a blooming flower stretching toward the sun. I see nothing any more dangerous about meditating on shrooms than taking shrooms in the first place. In fact, if you're anything like me, you need mindfulness and presence while on shrooms so you don't get trapped in an anxiety attack. |
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Last edited by Original Poster; 06-25-2014 at 07:41 AM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I can't say meditation is something I'm super knowledgeable about, |
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"you will not transform this house of prayer into a house of thieves"
Yes definitely, I don't want to come off against them in any way, as I'm all for shrooms and the psychedelic experience. I think that there are all these benefits as described, and it is an amazing experience. It may be my own ego that is cautious and giving counter-intuitive advice, since I've had experiences where I'd got some anxiety or felt the full effects of the psychedelic (not shrooms, but similar as it as plant, leaving it ambiguous) coming on stronger than my desire to meditate. |
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Like I said, I personally went against the advice of my instructor. He knew I smoked pot and advised against even that, but the horror story he gave me was about shrooms. I don't remember if the kid he talked about went insane or got arrested or what, but that advice is given to everyone he instructs kundalini to, including me, because of the rare times when people can't handle it. |
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Last edited by Original Poster; 06-25-2014 at 09:03 PM.
Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
Again I can't confirm what I am talking about, but it is a several-hour long experience, so meditation and introspection are great things to do while on it. And has a Earthy-feel and spirit as well. I don't know, I haven't gone out super far into the depths, but what I have seen is that the unexplored regions can be so unfamiliar to our Western paradigms that it warrants some caution. This is in part due to a bad trip I had, so I can send you details in a private message if you like. So I think warnings are warranted for the heavy and heroic doses, but as to trying out meditation and whatever, I think it should be fine at more reasonable doses. This is for those who haven't had these experiences. For those that are familiar, then they know what to expect and have already done their homework. |
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Last edited by Neo Neo; 06-26-2014 at 12:33 AM.
That's true, and this is an opportune time for a public service anouncement: Do not take ayahuasca on anti-depressants. Clear them from your system first. They interfere. |
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Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.
I tried meditating on shrooms once. Not sure I would call what happened meditation, but my closed eyed visuals started to intensify and I felt like something was trying to rip me out of my body. Had to stop because I got freaked out. |
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I think it is very worthwhile to train yourself with meditation (before) ingesting magic mushrooms.It is especially worthwhile to be able to still the mind. Stillness of the mind is what allows the visions to unfold. |
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