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      Well, not necessarely from a previous one. But simply different "spiritual" "me"s of yours.
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      Well, everyone knows if you stare at yourself in the mirror your face starts to change a little. This would be an even more dramatic change if you were doing it in a poorly lit environment, like with a candle.
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      i dont believe in reincarnation, therefor i dont believe in past lives. like loaf said if you stare in a mirror long enough your face will start morphing a bit, especially with low lighting. its just your eyes playing tricks on you
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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      How do you know its you from a previous life?
      Yeah, I hate these people. They see something suspicious, and instead of associating it to a muffin/TV show/salamander/coconuts, they associate it to spiritual and paranormal stuff. As the philosopher says, what you seek is what you will find; or even, what you see is in your eye. Stop chasing UFOs and they will no longer appear.
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      The way I see it it's kind of "The One Whole in which are manifested The Many", like many focal points of life/consciousness within the same, primal one. If you make it a scale like: 10 being the one whole and 1 being the smallest form of life, you can get a three, for example. Within it are lesser forms of life that makes it be what it is, just as it is part of a higher form.

      From here, you have other focal points of consciousness that compose yours.

      [+holistic view of the universe]
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      You know whats funny? How in my "previous" lives I look almost exactly the same. Even the shape of my hair, the clothes I am wearing... its all the same! But it must be my past self, because my nose looks slightly different in this blinding darkness.

      I'm not usually so rude about peoples beliefs, but its just an illusion. When I manage to guess the card you picked in the deck I just gave you, it doesn't mean I am psychic.

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      It doesn't mean the other way round either, and it's not like it's mysticism related thruths driven by beliefs or escapism, not from my part.

      Labeling it as "who you were in past lives" is a way to put it, it doesn't mean "it's you from past lives, period.", it's just a way to put it. Also, assuming it's coincidental, illusory, and/or fake after merely reading about it is no less common sense than assuming it is real for wanting to believe in it.

      The focus of sight that was discussed in this thread is known as "Scrying"(used in some western occult/esoteric traditions, also known as "crystal ball gazing"), used to learn to see auras by pretty much any culture that adopts the aura concept and it's used in Reiki under the name of "Gyoshi Ho".

      It's valid to mention that when you try to use it, and you put your intention to it(rather than making yourself passive and relaxing your sight), you may end up forcing your eyes and burning your retina, making an undesirable after image that eventually fades away, possibly hurting your eyes. Also that getting the hang of it takes time, it's like exercising a muscle, not like switching on the lights at your place.

      [Gyoshi Ho is a Japanese Reiki technique of healing through the eyes, I was advised by my teacher when I took my Reiki class that "images related to the receptor/client/patient" can be percieved, as also can auras and internal organs.]

      The limit to the frequencies that can be percieved by the human eye was a scientific statement, born form a theory, justified by experimentation. It means that the test subjects were capable of seeing until some point, and that it was a common characteristic shown by regular human beings. It doesn't mean that it's a crude, raw and absolute thruth. All scientific knowledge, whether it may be tested or not, comes from a theory, which doesn't gain interest unless the thinker has interest in seeing it happening, or testing it's veracity. Also, the same empirical data can be used to prove even opposite scientific theories, at the same time. Physics has done this already.

      The adaptation of the human sight to other frequencies(or realities for that matter) isn't impossible, just as the possibility that it's not just made up isn't "mysticism rubbish".
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      Quote Originally Posted by Corello View Post
      Also, assuming it's coincidental, illusory, and/or fake after merely reading about it is no less common sense than assuming it is real for wanting to believe in it.
      But its so obvious its just an illusion. It couldn't be more black and white.

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      It was obvious that time was linear before Einstein. That's why I mentioned common sense.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Corello View Post
      It was obvious that time was linear before Einstein. That's why I mentioned common sense.
      But this isn't something as intricate as that. Its just poor sight in dark light. We know apples grow on trees. We know the tongue can taste. Its the obvious stuff. Theres nothing deep about it.

      I guess you are going to tell me that when I put water in my icecube tray, its the spirits of the underworld that freeze it, and not the coolness inside the freezer.

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      Actually, no. I'm not fond of mystic beliefs, I just like them almost the same way I have my poetry preferences.

      I'm telling that assuming something is something by the obvious may not utilize the potential the phenomena may have in it. Also, it works just as well if you have the lights lit, it's just harder not to focus at some specific point and lose the right sight.
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      Why must it be you from previous lives? Why can't it be your lost twin? Why can't it be your soul? Why can't it be your grandpa when he was your age? Why can't it be what you will look like in a year? Why can't it be your mother if she were male?

      You believers don't realize the silly conclusions you make. It's pathetic.

      It's just a fucking reflection and a fucking hallucination. Stop sitting on the fence.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      I guess you are going to tell me that when I put water in my icecube tray, its the spirits of the underworld that freeze it, and not the coolness inside the freezer.
      come on loaf, everybody knows its not spirits from the underworld that freeze the water, its spirits from previous lives. get your facts straight lol
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      In fact, I can safely say that mirrors have a mind of their own and soon enough they will devour us. The visions we see are a sign. And thats my belief. I have no basis, no evidence, and of course its as preposterous as possible. But its my belief.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      In fact, I can safely say that mirrors have a mind of their own and soon enough they will devour us. The visions we see are a sign. And thats my belief. I have no basis, no evidence, and of course its as preposterous as possible. But its my belief.

      very true loaf, this is what i believe too, and now that there's more than one person that believes it, it is completely true
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      Quote Originally Posted by Loaf View Post
      In fact, I can safely say that mirrors have a mind of their own and soon enough they will devour us. The visions we see are a sign. And thats my belief. I have no basis, no evidence, and of course its as preposterous as possible. But its my belief.
      I'm afraid O.o
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      That explains why we fear them in dreams. We connect to the astral plane, and get messages from the parallel world that is the mirror. Because time is linear and what have you.

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      I guess I'm really being misunderstood.

      Labeling it as "who you were in past lives" is a way to put it, it doesn't mean "it's you from past lives, period.", it's just a way to put it.
      I mean, am I showing an utterly incomprehensible english here?

      By that I meant to say that it's a conclusion you can take from the happening, I'm not naming it as the one thruth you all have to take as reality in your lives, I'm just stating that it's not necessarely illusory, even if one has evidence of it, evidence being an proven fact, it DEPENDS on a point of view to be valid, and a point of view is LIMITED BY CIRCUNSTANCES of it's own, whether you have your beliefs or empirical data to justify it, whether side of the argument you may be, they can still be put in check by ANOTHER group of thoughts, the later also having proven facts,(proven by experiments! Empirical facts!) with it.
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      But why should there be any other explanation? Thats just complicating it with silly theories and ideas. Completely un-necessary.

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      Wait a sec, wasn't this board a place for "paranormal phenomena" to be discussed without flamery/mockery/trolling?
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      Corello, way to go, making the most arbitrary conclusions out of every new fact -- in this case, a goddamn mirror. Ever heard of a thing called science? +.+

      Also, this isn't "paranormal phenomena", it's just a mirror and a hallucination.
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      Exactly. Just because this is a paranormal sub-forum doesn't mean every random spiritual thought you have will be verified and un-debated. Its for discussion about the paranormal - not blind exceptence to it.

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      Dude, you just keep on hammering that idea because you don't want to think of other interpretations, it's not different from a crazy ass guy yelling at people since they don't believe he's a wizard, he just doesn't want to think of other explanations for things in his life.
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      Why do I have to be a blind acceptor of the supernatural then? Do you mind seriously reading what I'm writing?
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      I'm hammering the idea because its a total lack of logic, thought, and philosophy. Its just another bogus theory. Its beyond me why people even take it seriously. There is nothing more to it - there is no other possibility of ghosts and spirits. Its a god damn light reflecting mirror, in a place with poor lighting.

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