Thread: Mydera's Workbook

Welcome to the class! The dream character, 'K' sounds like an interesting dream sign; especially since he tries to get you to question your dream - have you tried talking to him? Sounds like a possible dream guide to me! If you get the chance to in a lucid dreaming, try talk to him and ask why he's there, it could results in some pretty interesting questions.

Thanks Forceez. I think your right about K, he's definitely a huge motivation for lucid dreaming if not a dream guide. I have spent most of my lucids trying to find him, and I never can. He shows up in non lucids a lot these days, but whenever I'm searching in lucids things always go wrong... and the two weeks I was having a lucid every couple of nights, I didn't see him at all. It's very frustrating! But just when I was about to give up because my recall was getting bad, he showed up again on Easter and was all, "Have you been looking for me? Did you miss me?" like he knew I was giving up and was trying to keep me on track, lol. I found the problem with my recall, and it's back up now, so I've got to get lucid again and have it last more than a few seconds so I can go back on the hunt I have a ton of questions to ask!

Perhaps that's a "don't look for him, he will look for you" kind of thing? I'm sure you'll find him eventually.

Last night I read the first couple of chat logs before bed, then went to bed. I have a hard time falling asleep though, so I spent 2 1/2 hours laying in the dark trying to fall asleep. When I slept, I had the following dreams: (shortened versions, the long boring walls of text are in my dream journal, lol)

Dream One: I was watching scenes change, almost like watching tv. Trees on the hwy, a professional lawn mower, and my friend Tracy. It enever occured to me I was watching a dream -_-

Dream Two: I had odd vertical wounds on my sides, and was asking DCs what happened. I was aware that something wasn't right, but I didn't think to reality check or anything... I was just asking people what was up with the weird lines. I end up saving Rini from sailor moon, and finding a baby.

Dream Three: I was at the beach with my family, but my husband moved the car. I spent most of the dream trying to find my aunt (who had my kids!) to tell her the car was moved. I encountered several obstacles, but never realized it was a dream

Then, I woke up before my kids and couldn't fall back asleep despite being extra sleepy because of not being able to sleep. I decide to get up and write my dream journal. I made sure to RC because my kids never sleep later than me, they're usually the ones waking me up! I hung out with my grandma (we live w/ her because she can't afford to take care of herself,) and talked to my kids a bit. After being up a couple hours, I went back to bed for a nap. My nap lasted about 2 hours, taking in account for the hour it took me to fall asleep. I had a long DILD (yay!) during that time:

I was trying to water my garden... at Toys R US, lol. I was having trouble getting water from the fountain without getting water creatures in the water as well. A storm came, and the dream shifted to my old house. Fearing a man was going to kill everyone, I left the house to find him. A centaur in my driveway sparked lucidity. No need to RC, ha ha. I managed better control than in my last several lucids by growing wings and making a weapon, though it's not the weapon I wanted to make. I tried to lock the bad guy in my house, and instead turned him into a sweet old granny and made my "house" my bedroom. I told dream Granny I wanted to see K when she told me it was my birthday. I looked at my hands, changed a ring that was on them, and then found a gift from my mom. I hid the gift from mom hoping to avoid a nightmare. Dream Granny gave me stuff I already own as a birthday gift, and then K showed up. He told me I couldn't lucid dream, but I told him I could and I am, so he said he was happy to have lied (I guess lying by saying I couldn't lucid dream, b/c if it was true I wouldn't be lucid?) Then kissed me causing me to wake up and end the dream. -_-

That was definitely progress because I haven't had a lucid that long in over a month, and the only lucid that was longer than that as probably my very first one. Most of my lucids are a minute or two long, tops. Also I haven't had good control in my lucids since my first, so that was another improvement. Then there's the whole actually doing something in my dream an not just running off looking for K, that I am very proud of. I didn't think this class would start working so well so quick, lol. I'm going to read the other couple of chat logs now.

Welcome to the class Mydera!

Originally Posted by Mydera

and I've kept a dream journal here with dream views since I joined Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views - Mydera - Dream Journals

Doh. I guess I could have just read "DJ Entries:" under your avatar

Doh. I guess I could have just read "DJ Entries:" under your avatar

*face palm* You know, I joined back in February, and until you said something, I didn't even realize that DJ Entries number was a link! lol

I didn't sleep much last night again, between getting sick and then waking up too early. All I had were dream fragments:

Dream One: I got lucid twice, but the lucidity was fleeting at best and oddly the only parts I remember. The first time I realized I was dreaming, and saw a puppet. When the puppet was talking I dot sucked back into the dream. The second time was in a ball room. I became lucid when someone offered me their hand to dance, but my head felt heavy and everything went black.

Dream Two: I saw a white sheet. I realized I was dreaming, not sure what caused that though. Then was startled awake.

Dream Three: I dreamed of a library and a fairy tail cottage, but again it was just fragments.

I've reality checked a couple times today. The most weirdest time being when the post office actually gave my husband a package that we were supposed to get in the mail today, at the post office. They always tell me I have to wait until it arrives, that I can't just come up there and pick it up. :/ That was definitely weird and unexpected.

Is it possible to choose more than one induction method for this class? I already do reality checks for DILDs, but I also want to try with MILDs and WILDS... Is it best to just pick one and stick with it, or will using all three offer a better chance? I've gotten lucky the last couple of days with getting lucid in dreams because I'm on here so much, but I've really only had a handful of spaced out ones up until now.

Originally Posted by Mydera

Is it possible to choose more than one induction method for this class? I already do reality checks for DILDs, but I also want to try with MILDs and WILDS... Is it best to just pick one and stick with it, or will using all three offer a better chance? I've gotten lucky the last couple of days with getting lucid in dreams because I'm on here so much, but I've really only had a handful of spaced out ones up until now.

I've noticed that for alot of folks, it helps to pick one and stick with it, giving it a whole-hearted chance. However, DILDs are kind of a beginner induction technique. So if you are already successful at DILDs, then my suggestion would be to choose the MILD or WILD for the duration of this class. You can make it a kind of experiment for yourself and post the results. I just wouldn't switch them up during this class, so you can really give it a chance. Then if you find it's not for you, you can go back to DILDs or another technique when the class is over.

Thanks! In that case I'll probably try to stick with WILD, as it seems like you have more control in being lucid with it rather than a MILD where your just left hoping the message sinks into your subconscious.

After the chat last night, my husband got 5-HTP from Walgreens for me, and I started brainstorming a bedtime routine. I'm going to have to tweak it a bit because I ended up needing more to relax me before bed, but here's what I had decided to do after the kids went to sleep: Drink a glass of milk, eat a Banana, take the 5HPT along with my Prenatal Vitamin I take every night (I attribute my usually good recall to it, without it, my recall goes down the toilet.) After eating and taking my vitamins, I brush my teeth and potty, then sit in the dimly lit kitchen to write down my dream plans (I've done this every night for two weeks, to keep me on track with what I want to do if I get lucid, rather than risk getting excited and doing a bunch of nothing productive, lol), after I wrote out my dream plans, I went to bed, and tried meditating in the dark for about fifteen minutes, then I laid down and tried to sleep. I ended up getting the heavy limbs, feeling like I'm being pressed against the bed feeling really quick, but my mind would not shut down. Every now and then I'd get the swirling dots and colors that form a picture, but I kept seeing them and thinking, "Finally! I'm falling asleep!" and then that'd wake me up, ha ha. I laid down around midnight, and I had to get back up to potty again, and it was 1:17 then, so I know it still took a long time to get to sleep. I'm sure after a while of getting my body used to it though I'll start to go to sleep faster. What I finally did to get to sleep was put on some headphones and listen to Taylor Swift's songs for the Hunger Games... I heard both songs about 3 times each before I felt sleep coming and took the headphones off. I was finally out Here's shortened versions of my dreams:

Dream One: My friend M lived in a rabbit hole. She wasn't home, but I saw her drive by and wave.

Dream Two: I thought I had failed to fall back asleep, and got up to read and make myself tired again. I found a book out of my daughters in the floor, thought the story inside it was wrong, but the text didn't change when I tried to reality check with it, so I was sure I was awake... I was in fact, asleep and my reality check had failed, lol.

Dream Three: I was looking at weather radar and saw something odd, but didn't realize I was dreaming.

At this point my daughter had a nightmare and woke me up. It was 20 minutes before my WILD alarm, so I went ahead and tried to WILD. I found it near impossible to fall back asleep because around 5:15 is Grandma's alarm went off ( and she's too deaf to hear it so it went off for a long while, lol), then my neighbors started leaving around 5:30, and my husbands alarm went off at 6, then the bus came by at 6:15... I gave up and decided tonight I'm going to bed earlier and setting my alarm for 4 am!

Dream Four: A tornado hits while we're on our way home

Dream Five: I'm back in high school. I have alcohol in my book bag! a big storm is coming, so they're sending everyone home. The power goes out and people flip out and trample each other. My husband tells me he has to lock up at the lake before he can go home, so I need to to get our daughter. I get angry. Someone dies in a car accident, then my husband runs over someone. He takes my car since his is a crime scene now. I try to take the wheel, but he won't let me drive. When we get my daughter I climb into the drivers seat as soon as he's out and refuse to move. He storms off. I go to a wedding for a couple of hot lesbians, the storm still raging. A lady tells me my husband was run over. I follow a path of lights distraught and upset, to see my husbands ghost in a public bathroom. He tells me I didn't want him, I needed him, and that was a problem.

So, all in all, the 5-HTP helped me relax better but didn't chill my thoughts much. Still, I woke up feeling way more refreshed and well rested than usual, so I'm going to give it a while. After all, it took about a week of taking my prenatal before they helped with my recall, and then the benefit was amazing. Also, either the Banana or the milk or the 5 HTP or all three made my dreams so life like, even my reality check failed in that second one. Not that crazy stuff didn't happen, but once that reality check failed I lost any sliver of lucidity I might have had because everything was so real. I'm going to change my WILD alarm to 4, and go to bed earlier to hopefully avoid all the hustle and bustle of the morning distracting me. I'm also going to go ahead and load my MP3 player with some slow songs and make a dedicated slow song play list to let it cycle through while I'm trying to drift off, and add that as the last part of my routine.

I'm going to read the chat logs for the one I missed this morning, and then check out some others dreams journals and work books ^_^ Apparently I didn't miss a chat, yay!

Doh, you did miss it, I just posted it later than earlier: here There's another one tonight at 8 CST.

Anyway, WOW that's some great recall Mydera! As you can see, 5-htp can increase dream frequency and vividness, but they aren't always lucid. Or happy for that matter. Sorry the reality checks failed. Same thing happens to me when I have really vivid dreams and realistic FAs. You just need a repertoire of RCs to try instead of just one or 2.

I know what you mean about the hustle and bustle of the day. Happens to me from about 5:30-7:30am on and off. But then I go back to sleep at 7:30on my days off, and that's when some of my best, and most consistent LDs happen. So setting your WILD alarm for 4am and going to bed earlier should work better. But my question is, if you have the insomnia again, would you be able to sleep in at all? I mean, when the bus finally comes at 6:15 and if it's a day off, can you go back to sleep for a couple more hours?

I mean, when the bus finally comes at 6:15 and if it's a day off, can you go back to sleep for a couple more hours?

My kids are both preschool aged, so if I go to bed early, chances are they will wake up earlier too, and I don't think I'd get to sleep in after the hustle and bustle is over. Actually I just gave up at 6:30, the neighborhood doesn't get quiet until around 8am, lol. I could always try WILDing after 8 instead, I just worry that if I get too much sleep I won't be sleepy enough to fall back asleep in a WILD or the birds chirping will be too distracting. But we don't usually wake up until 10 or later, so it could work. Maybe I'll try that in the morning instead and see how it works, before I go trying to change everyone's bed time, ha ha. As for days off, I don't work so every day is a "day off"

And I totally forgot to mention that I missed several great chances to RC this afternoon because I actually saw my mom... who I usually only see in dreams. I realized after we parted ways what a great chance to practice I'd missed! I have RC'd a few times today though. When it started storming and when I was checking the weather radar since they both appeared in dreams last night. I'm also going to read a book that just came in the mail this evening, so that'll be another good chance to RC since I dreamed of reading last night... and this time I'll do a nose plug RC along with those rereading lines of text RCs

Sorry to get behind! I'm Going to try to catch up really Quick!

5-2-12

I had a short dream where I was the main character in the book, The Selection, and K was the prince.

That was it for that day because we all got a stomach bug and didn't get any more sleep until that afternoon. By then, it was such deep sleep I didn't dream! I didn't reality check either

5-3-12

Dream One: I dream of being at an anime convention, having a friend who could "change the storyline", and being chased by a crazy super skinny chic who smelled like Vanilla.

Dream Two: My husband was driving our car on a train track with broken pieces. I was trying to repair the track as we drove so we wouldn't fall!

Dream Three: Third person dream about dragons in a MLP: Friendship is magic style setting.

Dream Four: I discover a program on Google that allows me to follow anyone I want with a little car, but it's following my step dad. I don't want him to think I'm spying on him for my mom or anything, and end up embarrassing myself.

Dream Five: I'm trying to help a lady find her dog, and instead find my step dad. I try to take him home because he's lost, but he takes the wheel and drives us right into the middle of a race.

Dream Six: I'm with a girl who wants to become an interior designer. We try to make an old ugly house pretty, but end up blowing up the floor. The house turns out to be her mom's house.

Dream Seven: I'm hanging out with a guy friend, playing video games. We go to bed, when I wake up in the morning (in the dream, so a FA) I'm looking for him, and he's still sleeping in his bed. I talk to my family in the kitchen, and they say he's snuck out and hanging with some bad influences. I want to go hang out with them too

I remembered to RC a lot that evening because I was still half sick and feeling very disconnected the whole evening.

5-4-12

Dream One: I get an Ancient Egyptian spell book in the mail, and discover a mummy in my attic.

Dream Two: (Fragment) I bought pajamas for my kids.

Dream Three: Teaching my mom to play Kinect, in the river, and the game is a Legend of Zelda Game.

Dream Four: Serena from sailor moon gets a gift from Darien, then runs away from home and has all her money stolen.

Dream Five. Serena's parents split, she plans to run away, She has to grocery shop with her sister, her sister's a bitch, she gets her gift from Darien, and then he says he's ready to run away together

Dream Six: Two guys think it's funny to hop into my car at best buy. I don't know then, and yell at them to get out. One does, but the other just laughs. I beat him with a stroller, until he gets out of my car. Then I wait in line for a Skylanders toy. I see a book I think is a new MLP:FiM book about Derpy and a muffin, but it turns out to be about a bunny

I've only been up an hour or so, but I RC'd when I realized free comic book day is the day after Star Wars day! May the 4th be with you! I also RC'd when I got on dream views because I'll dream about this site and I can never be too sure when I'm really here and when I'm not, lol.

Also, I tried to wild around 1 am this morning since I wasn't very sleep having slept most of the last 48 hours. Four times, laying on my back I'd start to fall asleep than all of a sudden my whole body would SHAKE jolting me awake. I gave up after the fourth time and thought maybe I needed to lay on my side, but when I laid on my side I ended up falling asleep and not maintaining awareness I've actually had the sleep paralysis cause vibrations before I knew all about it, so I expected that from Wilding, but I didn't expect to physically shake, lol. Hopefully tonight I can get past that!

You dreams make me giggle. I love when you beat the one guy with a stroller. Brilliant!

I hope you're feeling better after the bug. I'm sure that knocked your sleep out of whack, but with the way your recall is, I doubt it will take long.

About the shaking you mentioned. Is it shaking that felt somewhat like WILD vibrations? Or was it that shake you sometimes get when you start to fall asleep, and dream of falling or something and it jolts you awake? Just curious.

About the shaking you mentioned. Is it shaking that felt somewhat like WILD vibrations? Or was it that shake you sometimes get when you start to fall asleep, and dream of falling or something and it jolts you awake? Just curious

I'm not really sure. I know it wasn't vibrations, because I've accidentally gotten into sleep paralysis with vibrations while trying to force myself to sleep in the past when insomnia has struck. The vibrations I felt then were like a Buzz... I even heard a buzzing sound with them, like the whole bed was vibrating and buzzing, then I'd see an image and feel like I was flying towards it. What I had last night was just more like when you get a cold chill and shiver. My whole body shook, but just once, and the images I was seeing behind my eyes went away completely. I'm going to try again tonight of course, I was probably getting too surprised by the shaking and waking up from that, lol.

Still not feeling great, so I skipped the routine and vitamins and everything again to avoid getting sick in the middle of the night. As a result, I didn't sleep long, and my recall is starting to get fuzzy because of not having my vitamin in four days, lol. Nothing was lucid, but there were a lot of opportunities that I missed. I need to kick it up a notch and reality check a lot more again! I didn't wake up before the noise of the day started so I didn't get a chance to try WILD either.

Dream One: I was trying to protect people in a house after some disaster killed most of the population. We're attacked by vampires, and it gets bloody.

Dream Two: I twart and evil angels plan to take over, and combine him with a good angel to make a not so evil not so good angel.

Dream Three: I go to an anime convention with my bff, only to realize that I forgot to pack clothes to wear!

Your previous posts sounds a lot like HH/HI. If you were able to keep with it, it's highly likely that you'd be able to transition into a WILD

Started back my routine last night. Getting up after I get the kids to sleep and having milk, a banana, taking my vitamin and 5 htp, writing my goal for the night, and then listening to my MP3 players. I ended up waking up around 3 am though unable to go to sleep until 6 because of the lingering stomach ache (I'm blaming the milk and/or vitamin on this one, lol) and my wild attempt. I tried to wild around 5:30 am, but then the peacock started hollering. I live in the country, and my neighbors have all kinds of animals, horses, goats, dogs, cats, chickens, ducks, and a couple peacocks. The peacocks are by far the loudest and most annoying one. I can tune out the other animals, not the peacocks.



and I just gave up, put the pillow on my head and went back to sleep around 6. I had three dreams, all of which were abnormal situations and should have gotten me lucid, but didn't because I'm not in the habit of reality checking again after skipping a few days when I was sick.

Dream One: I'm in a mansion with my kids. The owner of the mansion knows Johnny Depp, and he is over for a visit. I do my best to exercise self control and not go all stalker fan girl on him.

Dream Two: I'm on a space ship! I have a parasite alien removed, then the ship gets a crack in it.

Dream Three: I hang out with someone I had a crush on when I was in preschool, then attend a faerie wedding procession and save the wedding by getting a new crown for the faerie princess... turns out she's marrying my old crush.

I've reality checked a couple times today, but not as much as I should!

Dream One: I hear some kids rapping while I'm on my way to pick up a little girl from the baby sitters.

Dream Two: I'm at the mall. I get pissed off at the clerk in victorias secret, then I find some awesome towels for my kids at some store I'd never heard of before, but they wouldn't ring up.

Dream Three: I work for a grocery store, and I take food to a food bank.

Dream Four: I'm in a boat on a creepy river.

Then I had a nap later, and had two dreams:

Dream One: I was trying to put a second house on this lot.

Dream Two: I was hanging out with my friend and her boy friend

I tried to WILD around 4:30, and ended up falling asleep but not aware. I woke up a couple times after that, but it was too noisy for me to fall back asleep while trying to stay conscious. I'm going to go read some more WILD tutorials and see if there's anything I've missed or am doing wrong. I keep either not being able to fall asleep, or falling asleep without staying lucid.

Oh, and I did a few reality checks through out the day, none particularly noteable though. I've probably done 5 or 6, no where near enough, but it's still just afternoon so I got time

Good job on the dream recall! Did you recall it in any more detail and decided not to write it down, or? As for your WILD - try and be more aware. You may find some tutorials that mention an anchor - something to keep aware of while trying to transition. Personally, i like to be aware on my breathing. This is both constant and it's relaxing, so it does the job quite nicely.

Thanks! Yes, the dreams are much longer and in much more detail in my dream journal on this site, but since they're giant walls of text, I just shorten them to one sentence or so for this work book, lol. I'm really struggling with the whole awareness thing to be honest. I either am TOO aware and can't sleep or I'm not aware enough and fall asleep completely, lol. I have yet to find that perfect balance of being aware but not too aware. But I know it takes time, and I think I'm slowly getting a better feel for the boundaries. One of my dreams last night I tried to wild, but fell asleep instead and had a FA thinking I'd gone to sleep and didn't dream at all and was waking up way too late.

Last night's dreams:

Dream One: My mom has a party, and one of my cousins starts stripping, lol.

Dream Two: Tried to wild, couldn't sleep on my back, so I rolled over and fell asleep. This time though I "woke up" remembering I was trying to wild, and freaking out because not only did I not dream, I slept way too late and the neighbors kid was already here to be baby sat!

Dream Three: I'm a vampire, but I only drink blood from people who want to die. I rescue some girls from other vampires.

Dream Four: I'm playing COD Black Ops II, then I become the character, and instead of a soldier I become a spy trying to find out about smuggled weapons.

FA's tend to lead to DEILDs for me, so I'd say your getting on the right track for sure. As for the stomach aches, maybe take the vitamin earlier. Or the milk earlier and the vitamin later. I'd hate for you to suffer through this experimentation process. And like fOrceez said, really great recall.

And so sorry about the noisy animals. Haha, I played the peacock video you posted and it woke up my dog. She looked sooooo confused!

lol, awww poor doggy!

Dream One: I was at my mother in laws, then I followed some kid playing basketball to the top of a hill where someone was waiting for me,

Dream Two: I wanted to make a special dinner for my husband, but kept running into issues.

Dream Three: I was watching Brave in a movie theater, then I became Merida, some old lady chasing me to cut my "magic hair".

I didn't sleep much last night, so I didn't try to DIELD or WILD. I have reality checked a few times today, most notably when I couldn't get dream views to load and when I had to retype this because I forgot to hit post quick reply before going to a different page. -_-

5/10/12

Dream One: Some girls wanted to disappear, I was also in a classroom with Aliens and they were calling me strange name and kept saying I was an Alien

Dream Two: My mom tried to get a group of people on Facebook to help us with our renovations, but I have to explain to her and then that our progress isn't slow because we need help, it's because we don't have much money so they need to just forget about it.

Dream Three: I'm in a parking lot and realize I remember this dream and what's going to happen (but I've never had a dream like this before, so I dunno why I thought I did) I then spend the rest of the dream telling myself what's going to happen, then having that happen. I didn't even try to break from the prescript-ed storyline in my head, but I did realize I was dreaming and was really mad when the ending I had expected didn't come to pass.

Dream Four: I got a free trial of some new video game system in the mail. The box had other weird stuff in it though, one of which was a plant I was trying to figure out where to put.

Dream Fragment: A peacock was lose, and I was trying to follow it's cries to find it in this grassy field that was grown up to my waist.

I didn't sleep much from 5:00 am until about 9:30 because my daughter was having Nightmares. She kept crying out in her sleep every 30 minutes or so. My husband got up early for work (and probably went to sleep on the couch now that I think about it), so I brought her into my bed and only had to put my arm around her then say, "Shhh it's just a dream baby!" and she'd go right back to sleep for another 30 minutes or so, lol. This gave me a lot of little fragments I didn't bother taking notes for, and I was trying to DEILD during each of these wake ups (but maybe it was a WILD since I had to shh her and put my arm over her, I don't think your supposed to move for a DEILD right?) and I was telling Ophelia during the class chat I had a close call where I saw an orange phone in front of me, and I was opening it up and looking at the screen. Then it beeped! I knew it was HI and I was falling asleep so when it beeped I didn't expect it and startled awake. I know HI can have noises too, I have no idea why it surprised me so much, but it did, lol. I didn't DJ it thought because I thought it was just HI.

Yeah it helps if you don't move in between dreams during DEILD. It just helps keep the transitions more smooth.

Hope your daughter gets a better night sleep this time, poor thing.