Thread: MrPriority's Workbook

Haha thanks! I'm mostly trying to avoid going into too much detail on DV for a while. Otherwise I'd probably get excited and would start to read too much on dreams and too little on school It seems that I should be able to go through school without much or even any work at home. So perhaps I'll resume my practices a little sooner

On that note: I actually had a LD last night. I tried to jump of something high, but I couldn't find anything. It was pretty funny though. I am glad that I am at the point already, where I can still have LD's even when not practicing. Though I kinda wanna go and do a whole bunch of stuff again now

I'll use those tips when I start again. Seems like a good idea, thanks!

Well that's all I have to say.

Nice, congrats on the bonus ld!

So I got another LD last night. A pretty long one too!

I am happy of course, but I would really like to figure out why I suddenly started LDing again after a couple weeks without one. Could it be because I am throwing my sleep schedule back a couple hours? If anything I'd say it makes me more tired at night.

Could it be because I see more daylight, or perhaps because I am more challenged mentally during the day?

I'm really at a loss here. If anything I'd figured I would get less LD's for a while not more. Though obviously I am pretty happy about it, don't get me wrong

Do you have any idea perhaps?

Well, I have two possible explanations which are related to what you already said. First, I think that the sleep schedule change may be working like the CAT (Cycle Adjustment technique) CAT - Cycle Adjustment Technique - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views, and also the fact that you have to wake may be making you more alert. I often wake up a more often when I know I need to wake up at certain time and at important dates, I'd be waking up more frequently plus having FAs.

The other thing which you mentioned is that you are more mentally engaged. Lucid dreams happen together with a burst of gamma waves. These also happen with advanced meditators but that's not the only time they happen. The key is in focus. If you are reading stuff, especially learning or when working to perform a task with full focus and dedication, gamma waves will be produced. So, perhaps spending more time immersed in such activities echoes during the night as well.

Hey hey,

A little update here. It's been a while

3 Weeks of school are already gone and so far everything is going smooth. I can keep up pretty easily. I'm also used to the new sleep schedule by now (that was a tough one) so I feel I have this thing under control! I have quite some time to spare now, so I'm planning to pick up my techniques again. Starting with, what I think is the most important one for now, meditation! This should only benefit me in school as well

As for my LD's in these 3 weeks, I think it was the CAT (Cycle Adjustment technique) like you suggested. The LD's pretty much happened when I was still adjusting to the new schedule. I never even heard of that one before, seems quite interesting, though I don't plan on changing up my schedule again any time soon. Perhaps I'll take a closer look at it in the first vacation. It seems to work for me.

I will be slowly increasing techniques over the next couple of weeks. It might a little bit too careful on my part, but I just really want this to work. I really like this study

Well that's all for now,
I'll be back for another update sooner this time though

Sounds like things are running nice and smoothly over there! That's really good to hear.

I'm sure you will be able to fit some practices (and get results) into your well organized schedule while keeping your priorities.

Lil update again,

Studies are going really well. It's a bit on the easy side actually. I hope it will get a little more challenging later on, though this does give me more time to spend on LD practice for the time being. I have not been doing enough meditation to my liking. So I will pick that up again.

Also, I was sitting in the bus to school yesterday. And I was thinking how I had no dreams recalled at all that night. But then I suddenly remembered a really long and epic dream. Though I never wrote it down. And now I can't seem to remember anymore I only remember that is was pretty epic. And then last night I had another epic dream. I remember some small parts of that one (one sceny very vividly)but I also lost most of that dream. It's so frustrating, haha. So there is really only one solution here. I am going to start DJing again. Time to get a little bit more serious about LDing again.

I hope I can also post a little more on the forums. Because there is still so much to learn here

That is all I have to say for now

Aaaand I'm back!

I've finally reached a rather stable position in school and in social surroundings. Now I find myself with some motivational problems. I think I am up to the point that I can keep getting LD's without too much effort, even if it only is 1 every week or sometimes 2. I still want to improve though. And I feel like I often slack the most basic of LD methods. So I want to take some time here and get my basics in order. Find a way for me to keep up a technique for longer periods of time. To improve on the basics such as recall and awareness.

I also want a place to just put down my thoughts and experiences, good or bad. So that I have something to return to. It helps me to keep coming back when I am getting tired or distracted with other stuff. I often find that I only read on dreamviews and never post. So that's why I came back here. To have an online diary, or something like that. It probably won't be any fancy idea's or anything. Just a place to come back to and share my thoughts and worries. And my progress of re-doing the stuff I did when I started out.

I feel more motivated already!

Yay! Welcome back!

I've finally reached a rather stable position in school and in social surroundings. Now I find myself with some motivational problems. I think I am up to the point that I can keep getting LD's without too much effort, even if it only is 1 every week or sometimes 2. I still want to improve though. And I feel like I often slack the most basic of LD methods. So I want to take some time here and get my basics in order. Find a way for me to keep up a technique for longer periods of time. To improve on the basics such as recall and awareness.

For me dream control goals and induction techs go hand in hand. What usually keeps me going is to want to do something awesome in my next dream, like totm, toty or any private goals I have in mind. Then I start thinking how I want to do this next or as soon as possible and start planning for getting my next ld, hopefully going to bed on time and scheduling the wbtb. I also prepare a schedule with some day techniques like autosuggestion or meditation. Then follow the plan.

I think you're very organized so it should be easy to make a nice program to get some extra lds.

Also, if you feel like challenging yourself, perhaps you could start a thread in our lucid challenges subdirectory, where you can come up with induction or dream control challenges and even run a mini contest. If you don't feel like starting a new thread, you can have a look at some of our lucid dares or totm.

http://www.dreamviews.com/lucid-challenges/

I think you're very organized so it should be easy to make a nice program to get some extra lds.

Thanks! I do like to plan things out. The problem is I don't tend to follow up on my own plans, haha. I love researching and figuring out how to get the most out of my practice, but oddly enough I've not once succesfully incubated anything or really did what I wanted to do in an LD. It seems I don't really care for what I actually dream about. As long as I have fun. I guess I like the idea of a LD more than the LD itself, in some sense. I've always figured I'd go do all those fun things I want to when I'm really good at LD'ing.

Though I see the use of goals very much. And it may just be one of the things that is holding me back at the moment. Besides practicing more regularly and memory. Those are the 3 main things I see myself getting the most out of with training right now. I haven't really found myself particularly motivated by any lucid tasks so far. I tend to give up on them rather quickly. I think I might come back for those when I feel better about my LD's. Though I do need a goal of some sorts, as it would most likely lengthen my LD's.

I have been pondering over an idea to have a goal without actually having a goal. Or maybe a mindset would be a better word for it. Something that makes me always want to see what's going to happen next while in a dream. Since I believe it is that feeling of "now what?" that makes the dream stop. Right now I'll start with using exploration as my goal, since it is ongoing. Though I wonder if there are better ways. I basically want to have the benefits of having a goal without having to incubate anything, or coming up with stuff to do.

Oh and before I forget (So much to say) I had a very interesting experience the other day. I had a dream in which I saw my dead grandpa (who died when I was very young), that alone is unusual for me, but then I realised it was just that and I got lucid. I thanked my grandfather for being my que to lucidity, as I usually do when I get lucid because of some DC, and then I climbed on his back and we flew off. Now that was pretty weird, but then I somehow midflight fell off and figured I had woken up somehow. I did an RC and indeed I was awake. But I wasn't! My nose pinch totally failed me! That never happened to me before. Maybe it is time for me to include a second RC into my arsenal... I wouldn't know which one though I've always loved the nose pinch the most by far

Well anyways, before I ramble off again. I'll save some for the future Happy to be writing stuff on the forum again though!

I tend to give up on them rather quickly. I think I might come back for those when I feel better about my LD's. Though I do need a goal of some sorts, as it would most likely lengthen my LD's.

I see what you mean. From experience I can say don't be shy to go after tasks (if there is something you want to do, that is) even complex ones. It need not take more than a min for a basic task and five mins should be enough for advanced tasks. People often wait until they have half an hour lds to start doing advanced, which is all wrong. I've seen newbies here with an ld count of 1 do amazing things! And I truly believe anyone can accomplish this, they just have to try. If you never try how would you know your limits?

Anyways, enough with goals advertising. I love your on-going goal idea. We actually were discussing something similar with fogelbise with regards to extending lds. Exploration is indeed an awesome ongoing goal and very exciting one too!

Congrats on your ld!!

Back for another report,

I recently had a change of schedule in school which means I have to adapt to an early rise every day. Though I'll have loads of afternoons free, this means I need to significantly change my bed times. So this resulted is less sleep and less dreams. It seems to be settling down now though. I plan to keep it at these times for a while even if they change it again, since it seems healthier to have a regular sleep schedule anyway.

I'm still struggling with my basic techniques. I really want to write down my dreams better and take some time remembering them before I start moving around. I guess I've once again been slacking. No worries though, I got this! From today on it will be better (autosuggestion works for more than just dreaming)

Ah now that I got this out I feel much better already. Let's write some dreams down tomorrow morning!

Aghr, morning school is not nice at all. But once you get to a regular schedule, your recall will improve.

The good thing is, you can always do dream related practices during the day. And perhaps you will have the opportunity for a nap every once in a while.

Hello again, it's been a little while again xD

I find myself less and less interested in dreaming when my school get more stressing. So I think I just want to try and get my motivation, but most importantly my enthousiasm back. I also had a LD that wasn't really great, which kinda demoralized me for a while. So for now I'll just try and simple be more active on the forum. That is step one, after that we'll see how it goes.

As I type this suddenly a video pops up in my head. It was about a guy talking about lucid dreaming. He thougt that one of the first steps one should take is make your life more about LDing. Make your room remind you of it, read books about it, watch a lot of inspiring video's. I think I'll give that a try.

There is some good news as well. My brother is moving out in a few weeks. Now I do love my brother and I'll miss him, but in dreaming aspects that means I now have a whole floor to myself. That means I can set the alarm whenever I want without waking anyone. And not getting woken up by his alarm either. And I can finally try out a nice speech to text program and say my dreams out loud in the morning! So I kinda look forward to that

Well, I'll hopefully be posting here again soon! For now that's all I had to say.

As I type this suddenly a video pops up in my head. It was about a guy talking about lucid dreaming. He thougt that one of the first steps one should take is make your life more about LDing. Make your room remind you of it, read books about it, watch a lot of inspiring video's. I think I'll give that a try.

That's good. I think there is a lot of inspirational material in youtube. And not just videos about lucid dreaming but other stuff as well. I sometimes become inspired by unrelated videos - whether it's high quality videos about awesome places or documentaries about any type of topic. I relate what I see to dreams and lucid dreaming and image how cool it would be to be in that place in my next ld, for example.

Update!

So I had this very weird experience. I woke up very early for school, only to find out my lessons were cancelled. So I suddenly had quite a few hours of nothing ahead of me. Perfect time for a WBTB! It had been a while since my last LD so I was a little worries if it would work. But boy did it work!

I had very vivid dreams, 2 of which lucid. Now I had this really weird experience in my first one. At one point after becomming lucid I could feel myself waking up. My eyes where opening, while I was still in the dream. In the closed part of my eyes I could see the dream, in the open part my room. I later realised my room was also a dream. For a while there, while I was struggling to keep my eyes closed, there was this horizontal line in my view, seperating the 2 dreams. And as I struggled it went up and down, showing more of either off the dreams and less of the other. After a bit I finally opened my eyes and saw my room.

I had about a second to breathe before the next experience. This time I started floating out of my body towards the ceiling. I never saw my sleeping body, but I definetaly knew that I was rising from it somehow. I figured I was having an OBE(I've been reading the OBE thread lately ) I rose untill my nose was inches from the ceiling and then I slowly descended back down. As I went down I saw the ceiling further and further away from me. And further and further and further. Now I couldn't stop falling down! At this point I kinda panicked a little bit. For a split second I felt like I was going to end up in hell. Then I told myself it's ok, it's just a dream. But at that point I felt too scared and uneasy to really believe it. So I decided to wake up. I tried some breathing irregularities and after that moving some body parts. I started to feel my foot, so I placed all my concentration on moving it and woke myself up out of the dream.

It was really weird. I've never had this OBE-like experience, or the half-half dream thing, or waking up from a dream by choice. So many experiences =D I am really happy I went through all these things safely. Next time I experience them I will be more confident and expore these experiences to the maximum!

I can't wait to try more WBTB's whenever I have the time again! I've never really tried being awake for more than an hour (like I did this time) but it sure seems to work wonders!

Well that's all I have to say for now. What do you think about these things? Have you ever had any of this before?

Wow, that really was your lucky day!

Those experiences were very interesting. About the first one, I sometimes have experienced something slightly similar like being in two places at once. It usually happens on the verge of waking up or falling asleep where you have control as well as input from both your dreaming as well as waking body. I also have had confusing in dream Wild experiences where I go to sleep in the dream and quickly transition (or rather teleport) to another dream. The mind is capable of producing all sorts of weird scenarios. Your half lid experience sounded very cool!

About the OBE scenario, I've sometimes on much rarer occasions had full body leaving like experiences. My usual wilds involve feelings of floatiness and being able to move dream arms but I usually enter a dream scene rather than separate from my body in the room.

Relating to that falling experience you had, on some occasions I have found myself unable to control movement during a normal ld. Best way to deal with this would be to try to hold on to some nearby object. Or trying to focus on the ground and willing myself to face it.

Longer wbtbs really do wonders! A pity we can't do them more often.

Have great holidays and hopefully some wbtbs.

It's been a while again. I've had an extremely busy time with school but now finally it is....

VACATION TIME

Woop woop! Time for some epic dreaming again. With that I actually have been lucid dreaming (a bit on and off) for a year now

I have some catching up to do cause I've been slacking like crazy, but I have confidence that I will get back into it really fast

So with that said, do you perhaps have any advice on how to Lucid dream when it's really hot? It's like tropically hot here at the moment and I find that it definately affects my dreaming. Though not always in a bad way per se. What are your expeciences with that?

Let me end it with: It's good to be back

Welcome back, Mr. Priority!

About the heat, hope the tropical weather doesn't last too long. My overall experience is that extreme heat makes it more difficult to fall asleep to say the least. If you can, be sure to open the windows before bedtime to allow for some cooler air (hopefully?). When it comes to wbtb in very hot weather if you are flexible with the time, try to schedule your wbtb approximately when it's the coolest time of the night so falling asleep would be easier. Splashing cold water on one's face or arms can be relieving and it can bring about extra wakefulness so that's also something to consider trying.

Thanks for the advice! I hope it passes by soon as well. So far it seems that on tuesday thing will slowly go back to a more acceptable temperature. Fingers crossed!

And with my first night of trying I already got my first lucid in a while Though my recall is quite bad at the moment so I don't recall the whole thing. I actually think I got lucid in 2 seperate dreams but im not entirely sure so I'll just count it all as one big one.

I finally managed to swim. Somehow I just started in some kind of ocean which was about 2-3 meters deep but yet had waves that were like 8-9 meters high. So that's another one off my list! And as with most of my LD's I of course ended it with a trying to get it on with a woman. And failing miserable at it, haha.

To the analyse machine!

So I'm really happy that I can still pretty reliably induce a lucid dream. That is pretty much what all my training was focused on last summer vacation. My thought was that if I can just get a decent induction rate first, then I can start training other things after that. And I think that time is now. Since I've not been serious enough throughout the year.

With that in mind, the most obvious things that I need to work on for now are recall and making my dreams more vivid. So I am revisiting my earlier attempts, but I am adjusting them a little bit to see if I can find a way that I can keep up throughout the year.

With that I have my 3 main goals for this summer:
1. Get my recall back up
2. Do some sort of startup when I first get lucid (focus on all my senses for example)
3. Find a way so that I can keep up my practices throughout the year

Should be do-able I'd say!

Well done! Congrats on the ld! Swimming can be very cool in dreams, glad you tried this plus really cool you produced huge waves too.

Back again for another update! I didn't really take on any new plans so I didn't really had much to say here. I still think my plans are solid for the future. But I had this epic LD last night. And I kinda need to tell this to everyone, since I don't have anyone IRL who's into lucid dreaming :p

I finally did a full WILD. I was unsure if I had a WILD before, but after experiencing this I am fairly sure my others were MILDs and that this one was my first WILD. I am totally stoked! I have been trying this for a while now, on and off, whenever I have time. And now for the first time it worked! This is a great step into the right direction, since now I know what to look for when WILDing

I want to keep practicing WILD's since it doesn't really take any time out of my day. I wake up after most dreams anyway. If I can get better at this, it might really boost my LD total significantly. And the dream itself was insanely vivid and sharp as well. I was just standing there for a second, in pure awe of how insanely real it all was. Perhaps even more real than real life, since everything was super sharp, even at a distance. Really awesome!

Other than that I joined the competition, which is what got me stoked enough to really try and get a WILD. I was pretty much almost at the time to wake up, so I basically told myself: it's now or never. Then laid still for about an hour, which is btw insanely long if you are just lying awake doing nothing , until it finally worked! I'll also post a link to my DJ since I needed to post it for the compition there.

My sights are set on DEILDs. I might not make it this holiday, but I think there is the next big step for me to increase my monthly amount of LD's. But, I'll leave that for the future for now.

Lastly and probably most importantly: This LD really got all my excitement back. I was a little bit afraid that all LDs would be the kind of not-so aware kind. Since that's all I've really had lately. And these low aware dreams were kinda fun, but they also felt more like regular dreams. More like it wasn't really me, though it was me. I dunno how to explain it really. But this LD I had this night was completely me. Totally aware of who I was, what I wanted, what happened just a few minutes ago when I was awake, I knew everything and could do what I want. Not to mention the jaw-dropping details. This is the kind of LD that makes it worth all the trouble. So I have a totally renewed faith in LDing.

Looks like you are stuck with me for quite a while longer, cause I don't plan on going anywhere at least until I can have these kind of dreams a couple times a week

Here is the dream, if you are interested

[EDIT: Also, are those DVA chat sessions still ongoing? I was just checking out some logs, and it seems really interesting.]

Congrats, Mr. Priority!!! I'm very happy for you! Sounded like one of those mind-blowing lds with very sharp and vivid details. Also, loved the levitation part.

About the DVA chat sessions, yes we have those. Will have to ask Ophelia about the next session. It's good to know that there is interest. It was great seeing you in chat and looking forward to more conversations there.

Ah yes, I totally forgot about that. I was gonna put that in the last message too. You should come hang out in chat more often It's good fun and some quality talks as well! We could really use you in our chat gang I'm there quite often

Also I hear people who chat are twice as likely to get a LD