Kalico's Workbook

**spellbee2** · 11-29-2016 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by KaliCo

Will I still be able to LD if I don't think about it as much? Or does it have to be all I can think about during the day?

Yes, it's still very possible to LD without having LDing occupy your every waking thought. In fact, dialing it back will probably help a bit, since it'll keep you from getting over-stressed about "making it work" and let you feel more relaxed and positive about lucid dreaming as a whole. Fun fact - it's even a fairly common scenario for people to try really hard for weeks or months to LD before giving up, and within a week or two of giving up entirely, they end up having their first lucid without actively trying for it (I'm not saying you should give up, I'm just trying to show that it's still possible to LD even without exhausting yourself with effort).

Originally Posted by KaliCo

Am I going downhill? If I am how can I stop it?

No, you're not going downhill. If one bad night was all it took for you to have to start again from square 1, no one would be able to get lucid, because they'd be restarting everything over and over again. Everything you've been practicing for is still well in your mind - you won't lose that overnight. Sometimes it's even best to take a night off to just rest and recharge, especially if you're feeling exhausted or you won't have enough sleep if you WBTB (you might even have a random lucid like I mentioned above).

Even the best lucid dreamers sometimes have "dry spells" now and then, where they notice a dip in lucidity or dream recall. So having a bad night now and then is not just you - everyone has them every once in a while. The key is to not let those temporary setbacks convince you that you're doing something horribly wrong. In this case, you recognized that the tea may have cause your lack of dreams since you didn't sleep as well, but sometimes you might be set back by something entirely out of your control. So obviously try your best to control what you can control (but don't overly stress, like I said before), but don't think that you've destroyed your chances if you don't see the results you expect.

Originally Posted by KaliCo

I need more motivation (Could u put some in the comments below

Go back to that list of things you want to accomplish in a lucid, and take a minute or two on each one to kind of imagine in your head. As you do, imagine all the senses that go along with them. For example, as you imagine yourself flying, think of the cool wind blowing across your skin as you soar, the sight of the world appearing so tiny beneath you, and the freedom that you feel of no longer being tethered to the ground. Remind yourself that all of the senses that you "imagine" will feel incredibly realistic once you're in the dream and lucid. It might even help if you start your visualization with one of your previous dreams - then, imagine yourself noticing a dream sign, becoming lucid, and then accomplishing that goal as described above.

Another thing that I've found is good motivation is to read some other people's DJ entries - particularly the lucid ones. Some of my favorites include:
Hyu (If you never read another DJ, read this one - it's incredible, and really shows you the extent of what's possible in lucid dreaming)
Sensei
CanisLucidus
JadeGreen
~Dreamer~
spellbee2 (What? I have cool dreams every now and then...)

**KingCobra** · 11-30-2016 03:09 AM

I understand you when you say "i'm not into LDing as when I first started." That is my main cause of not having lucid dreams often. At some points, I would really thinking about it and put effort, and then later I think to myself "It's alright if I don't focus on lucid dreaming right now. I got other times later on." Things like that which got focus off of lucid dreaming. Yes it's still possible to easily lucid dream without thinking about it much such as with certain techniques. It doesn't have to be all you can think about during the day (that's not the case). Just simply keep up the reality checks and WBTBs and your progress. Don't frustrate over it and stay patient. I'd say to avoid drinking too much caffeine (caffeine = harder to sleep = going to sleep later = less time in REM sleep = fewer chances to LD and less recall). Try not to lose interest in lucid dreaming and keep up your progress.

**KaliCo** · 12-04-2016 04:34 PM

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**KingCobra** · 12-04-2016 09:36 PM

<@gab^> the clown face was most likely HH
<@gab^> when her hand shut up, she was on the werge or already dreaming
<@gab^> so back to kalico, she said she knew she was dreaming, so she was aware just before the dream and perhaps after she entered the dream, but she lost lucidity quickly
<KingCobra> so it was still a short lucid

Nice job! Congrats!

Hope you're also feeling better

**NyxCC** · 12-04-2016 09:40 PM

Congrats on the ld!

Hope you're feeling better.

**spellbee2** · 12-05-2016 03:27 AM

That definitely sounds like a DEILD, congrats! See, I told you you could do it!

**cooleymd** · 12-05-2016 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by KaliCo

... Then everything went black and I forgot I was lucid

This is the void.

The moment you are in the void, smack your hands together and begin rubbing, listen for the sound of your breathing, maybe even begin to give verbal commands. Kick off you shoes feel the ground/floor beneath your feet. Walk until you come to a door handle and turn it.

Never just give up

If you find yourself apparently having awoken in bed, don't believe it
Verify it. If you can't verify it your still dreaming you have survived the void.

Of course you may come out in a same or similar lucid instead of bed, or even in one you are wanting to go (thinking of going) to.

**KaliCo** · 12-10-2016 04:04 PM

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**KingCobra** · 12-10-2016 05:09 PM

- This was another lucid dream. A DILD.

Even if you didn't have much control or thinking properly, it was still a lucid dream. Remember a lucid dream is any dream in which you are aware you are dreaming. Since you knew you were dreaming, it was a lucid dream.

- From what I read, it was most likely a real lucid. You probably didn't recall what triggered your lucidity though. But you still knew you were dreaming.

- Sometimes, after you put too much effort into lucid dreaming, and then don't really try for a while, you might have lucid dream(s). It's common.

- If you still get lucids without much effort later on, then that would be luck. I suggest to at least keep putting effort.

- Yes it would be helpful for a DJ, as it will help your recall and with your lucid dreaming.