Thread: LD Count is crazy.

Simply dedication.
If one have this kind of success, you can surely assume that he worked hard enough.

Thats not crazy... most naturals have 10k+ anyway.
What I do for LDing is RC simply, but when I RC will do it for extended periods of time (One RC for two or more hours), been trying to get back in shape and do the all-day one, but forget due to school.
Also, I learned to LD whitout the aid of tuts or the kind, just in case.

Originally Posted by Walms

Thats not crazy... most naturals have 10k+ anyway.
What I do for LDing is RC simply, but when I RC will do it for extended periods of time (One RC for two or more hours), been trying to get back in shape and do the all-day one, but forget due to school.
Also, I learned to LD whitout the aid of tuts or the kind, just in case.

So are RC's more beneficiaries to have a LD then say are Dream Journals? I find it crazy because you can only have 1 dream a night. I would lose count after like 15 days. I do believe that you guy's have had that amount though.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

So are RC's more beneficiaries to have a LD then say are Dream Journals? I find it crazy because you can only have 1 dream a night. I would lose count after like 15 days. I do believe that you guy's have had that amount though.

Where did you get this faulty information? Try dozens or more.

Originally Posted by spockman

Where did you get this faulty information? Try dozens or more.

What do you mean? Unless you sleep more than once a day. You can only dream once a night.

Originally Posted by Walms

Thats not crazy... most naturals have 10k+ anyway.
What I do for LDing is RC simply, but when I RC will do it for extended periods of time (One RC for two or more hours), been trying to get back in shape and do the all-day one, but forget due to school.
Also, I learned to LD whitout the aid of tuts or the kind, just in case.

This is interesting, Walms. I never thought about doing a RC that lasts a long time. I'll sure give it a try tomorrow, thanks for the info.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

So are RC's more beneficiaries to have a LD then say are Dream Journals? I find it crazy because you can only have 1 dream a night. I would lose count after like 15 days. I do believe that you guy's have had that amount though.

What ?
We can have dozens of dreams every night, it depends on how much you sleep and your REM period. Each sleep cycle, usually, lasts for 90 minutes, the REM starts with like 10 or 15 minutes - or a little more - and can be of 1 hour length in the last sleep cycle.

Yea last night I can remember that I had at least 6 dreams. And the last one had to have been like 30 minutes long and the one before that was pretty long. So we definatly dream more than once a night, but it might seem like its all put togther. In reality its all during seperate rem periods.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What do you mean? Unless you sleep more than once a day. You can only dream once a night.

No, this is not even remotely true.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What do you mean? Unless you sleep more than once a day. You can only dream once a night.

This calls for an emoticon.



I have filled my quota for the year.

Lmao! It's dedication, and some people here are natural LDers, too.

Originally Posted by Walms

Thats not crazy... most naturals have 10k+ anyway.
What I do for LDing is RC simply, but when I RC will do it for extended periods of time (One RC for two or more hours), been trying to get back in shape and do the all-day one, but forget due to school.
Also, I learned to LD whitout the aid of tuts or the kind, just in case.

How do you RC for two hours or even a whole day? Wich one do you use?

His patented Awareness o' Gravity method, of course. It's actually quite ingenious, the way he puts constant focus on the feel of his weight.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What do you mean? Unless you sleep more than once a day. You can only dream once a night.

That is 10000000% false.... where did you read that false information? We have at least 4-5 REM dreams every night..

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

So are RC's more beneficiaries to have a LD then say are Dream Journals? I find it crazy because you can only have 1 dream a night. I would lose count after like 15 days. I do believe that you guy's have had that amount though.

Not really better than DJ or any other technique, that is just the way I do it. But yeah, for me RC beats other techniques.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What do you mean? Unless you sleep more than once a day. You can only dream once a night.

Ah, that must be one of the problems! Truth to be told though, before someone pointed the cycle stuff to me, I would think the same, that 1 night = 1 dream.

Originally Posted by Mzzkc

His patented Awareness o' Gravity method, of course. It's actually quite ingenious, the way he puts constant focus on the feel of his weight.

lol patented? But yeah, this is the one I use.

Yeah, most naturals have just been conditioned into having them, over the years. Of course there is some dedication involved, though. I almost lost my ability, when I was growing up, but I got interested again, when I found DV. My LD count is just since my time here, but you can see how people who have been doing it, since they were children, can have had 1,000's of lucid dreams.

And the bit about only 1 dream a night is completely false. I've logged 8+ dreams in a night, and I know there are people here who have had more.

I use methods and reality checks, every now and then - not as much as I should, I suppose. Lol. But most of mine are just because of awareness of a strange or intense situation, within the dream.

I rarely use MILD.
99% of my lucids have been through DILD, basically being skeptical as to whether or not I could be dreaming... Like right now... Hmm...

Originally Posted by Walms

lol patented? But yeah, this is the one I use.

Have any tutorial about it here? It's pretty interesting.

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

That is 10000000% false.... where did you read that false information? We have at least 4-5 REM dreams every night..

What are you talking about? Do you go to sleep 4-5 times a night? Unless you are woken 4-5 times a night. I couldn't see anyone having 4-5 dreams a night.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What are you talking about? Do you go to sleep 4-5 times a night? Unless you are woken 4-5 times a night. I couldn't see anyone having 4-5 dreams a night.

Read up on REM cycles. Being woken up in the middle of the night has nothing to with it. When you sleep you have phases of sleep and cycles of sleep. You enter different phases at different times and might go through a sleep cycle over and over again in one night. During parts of these cycles in some of the phases, you dream. REM sleep is the phase where dreaming is most prevelant. Since this process repeats itself you can enter a dream state and leave it and enter a dream state and leave many times in one night without ever being woken up.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What are you talking about? Do you go to sleep 4-5 times a night? Unless you are woken 4-5 times a night. I couldn't see anyone having 4-5 dreams a night.

I believe you have been misinformed.
You go through an REM cycle, approximately every 90 minutes, and they get longer, the more hours you sleep. And it is possible to have more than one dream during an REM cycle.

[Edit:]
This might help:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

REM sleep in adult humans typically occupies 20–25% of total sleep, about 90–120 minutes of a night's sleep. During a normal night of sleep, humans usually experience about four or five periods of REM sleep; they are quite short at the beginning of the night and longer toward the end. Many animals and some people tend to wake, or experience a period of very light sleep, for a short time immediately after a bout of REM. The relative amount of REM sleep varies considerably with age. A newborn baby spends more than 80% of total sleep time in REM.[2]

Rapid eye movement sleep - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What are you talking about? Do you go to sleep 4-5 times a night? Unless you are woken 4-5 times a night. I couldn't see anyone having 4-5 dreams a night.

Yeah, sure. If you want to keep hiting the same key... ok then.
Sleep - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Originally Posted by Kallz

Have any tutorial about it here? It's pretty interesting.

Not on DV.

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What are you talking about? Do you go to sleep 4-5 times a night? Unless you are woken 4-5 times a night. I couldn't see anyone having 4-5 dreams a night.

I count my dreams by the number of times I wake up during the night, always thought everyone wakes several times/day, but don't remember, just like with recall.

Originally Posted by Walms

Not on DV.

Post the link please. (or PM me)

Originally Posted by MrBlonde

What are you talking about? Do you go to sleep 4-5 times a night? Unless you are woken 4-5 times a night. I couldn't see anyone having 4-5 dreams a night.

Actually everyone wakes up and goes to sleep 4 to 5 times a night. You just dont remember it.

You wake up after every REM periode. That is how someone can DEILD.