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      Hi, I'm new and wanting info on how to stop lucid dreaming and false awakenings

      Hi,

      I am very new to all these dream concepts and honestly until about a week ago I thought everyone experienced what I do in dreams. I am currently studying at uni and have a family so I am quite busy and while
      I agree lucid dreaming is fun and has come in very handy, for example, I have used dreams to help with exam studying and assignment ideas before, it seems to take up a lot of energy and therefore I usually wake up feeling mentally drained. I don't suffer false awakenings very often but when I do I find them annoying and I also suffer paralysis upon waking from sleep more than I want to. I would really like any advice on how to stop these from happening. I don't want to permanently stop lucid dreaming cause whilst I am dreaming I have unlimited control but it seems to take so much energy. When I wake up, whilst my body seems to have responded to the sleep my mind is drained. My sleep patterns and length of sleep is sufficient as these were the first things I looked into. I am no expert on lucid dreaming at all but I have these very intense dreams I can control every time I shut my eyes basically, so if I get woken up by my kids in the middle of the night, that means I have more than one. I can even induce dreams and wake up from nightmares at will. Is there any advice people can give me on how to reduce these dreams. I am studying medicine currently so I have changed my diet and increased physical exercise in order to see if this would decrease the amount of vivid lucid dreams I have. Any sort of info or personal experiences people have about lucid dreaming, vivid dreams, false awakenings or paralysis when they wake up I would really love to hear about.

      Thankyou

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      This is the first time I've ever heard anyone want to stop lucid dreaming haha, but unfortunately I have no advice for you. Usually when people don't practice techniques that help induce lucid dreams, they don't ever have them or they are rare and spontaneous. How exactly do you become lucid in your dreams? Do you notice something that only happens in dreams and never in real life, or is it completely random and you just suddenly realize that you're dreaming, out of the blue?

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      Hi,

      Thank you for getting back to me...

      Well I guess I just suddenly realise I am dreaming. I have a very strict routine so going to sleep is very routine for me and I don't go to sleep immediately either takes me roughly 30 - 45 mins so when I fall asleep and start dreaming, I am always aware its a dream cause I can remember or maybe I realise that my body is actually lying down and can't move lol. When I first started experiencing nightmares I would realise I was in a dream because of the slowness of my running, or how I could never properly makes someones face out or when I tried to scream and ask for help nothing would come out. When I first realised I was in a dream I would immediately wake up and think wow that was weird. Then as the dreams persisted I stayed in them longer and longer until one nightmare instead of trying to run I made myself fly away by thinking, "hang on this is a dream I can do whatever I want" and turned a nightmare into a dream. Since then practice is what it took and little by little I got to where I am today (All of this information I couldn't remember but I have gone through to one of my first dream journals about 20 years back which gave me all the details I needed lol). I actually want to experience a dream where I don't know its a dream or just go to sleep and then wake up 7 hours later lol. I am really happy to help you or anyone I can to lucid dream or control a dream I am just also trying to experience something new in dreams and for me that would be having a normal dream lol.
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      As you probably know, exercise and a balanced diet only improves your sleep quality, and in an indirect way your dreams (by increasing vividness for example). The fact is that at this point your brain is already used to this pattern of becoming lucid, and this is something hard to get rid of, like trying to look at a piece of text without actually reading it. If you had learned to induce lucid dreams, theoretically you could get rid of them or at least diminish their frequency by stopping with your exercises, but seeing as how you seem a natural, this might be a situation you can't really..control

      How lucid would you say you are during your dreams? Certain "postures" can make you loose lucidity, but at the same time, they can also wake you up. For example, heavily engaging with the dream content or following the plot blindly could do the trick, but not if you're in a high state of lucidity. You could also wake yourself up everytime you end up lucid, but not only this might be exhausting, but you'll also reach REM rebound and increase your time dreaming...which can lead to more lucids.

      The best (and only) option that I can see at this point is changing your attitude during the lucid dream. Have you tried meditating in it, as opposed to actually interact with the dream? Or maybe even seek a low stimulus experience, like standing in a bench looking at the sky. If like you said you have unlimited control, this should be quite simple to do. In the end, lucidity is a sort of halfway point between sleep and wakefulness, so any methods you find to step backwards in the ladder will likely help you. Good luck
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      You have to face lucid dreams as cooking:
      Stick it in the microwave and hope for the best?
      MMR (Mental Map Recall)- A whole new way of Recalling and Journaling your dreams
      Trying out MILD? This is how you become skilled at it.

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      Thanks for your help,

      And you are correct. I am currently experimenting with different ideas. I have in fact started just relaxing in my dream in order to get relaxed enough to allow my subconscious to fill my dream state with its content and plot etc rather than my conscious doing it all the time. I can sometimes do this and other times I can't. I am still lucid in the dream as I can't not realise anymore than its not a dream ( I hope that made sense lol). Rather than convince myself I am not dreaming, I just let it all go relax and my subconscious takes over all the while I am still aware I am dreaming but I am relaxed enough to not actively notice it or worry about it. At any time I still can take over the dream or wake myself up etc. I am really glad to hear your ideas and opinions as I don't have many people who can understand why I would want to not experience and control my dreams all the time.
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      Laniburger, have you tried to close your dream eyes, again and again ?
      Check your memory, did any suprising event happpen ? does the present make sense ? visualize what you will do when lucid, and how. Reality check as reminder of your intention to lucid dream tonight. Sleep as good as you can; when going to sleep, relax and invite whatever comes with curiosity. Grab your dream journal immediately as you awake and write everything you can recall (if only when you wake up for good). Keep calm, positive and persistent, and don't forget to have fun along the way

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      Hi VagalTone,

      Sorry I am not sure what you mean by closing my dream eyes. I am really only new to all terms etc and haven't got my head around them all - could you explain what you mean by closing your dream eyes? In my dreams I have full control over everything including my eyes so if I don't want them open I can close them - It mimics my physical life in that respect. I am not unhappy about having lucid dreams I enjoy them like everyone else its just I am searching to experience something new and different, thats all.

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