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      I will say up front I already have my own life partner. I'm no philosopher (can't even spell the word without help and apologize for any typos), but I am open minded and intrigued by your posts. I can see how a lot of people would say you're full of it. Some of the things you say can be difficult to accept and believe. Other things are downright impossible for my creative mind to see how it can work. (I don't do geometry)

      While I've been reading what you have to say, Philosopher8659, I could not help but think of the conversations you could have with my husband. If that ever was possible to happen, I would love to sit in to listen and see how it would go. Like you, my husband has some interesting abilities and ideas that most people would think he's crazy if he told them half the things he's told me. He's made the mistake of telling someone who was not open to what he had to tell her, and we ended out falsly booted from a fun group we were involved in. She denies it, but I know us being booted has a lot to do with what she thinks about what she was told.

      Too bad it is not likely you would have an opportunity to speak with my husband. I think the two of you would have a lot to say to each other. I wish you luck and hope you find someone as open minded as I am (or more so) to spend life with.
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      Right now I feel like a chimpanzee that has been given a sword. I don't know why, nor do I know how to use it. I only know that something is horribly wrong with man's ability to think. There is only one place to go to gain understanding. If I make it I make it, if i don't I don't.

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      I wish I couldn't think...

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      Relation to self is altogether inadamissable. Plato

      I actually have so many projects to do, I don't really have an excuss of "noting to do". I have been contemplating making cartoons that explain step by step the principles of grammar not yet taught. There are so many approaces. Formal, informal, visual, etc., Sad part is, so few are disciplined enough to formally follow a sentence much less an entire work. I think everyone missed a grand piece of historical humor. Plato and the theory of forms, based on truth. Spinoza, theory of material could not even construct the first proposition without a contradiction- and the rest of it kept getting worse-- and Einstein praised him! That is so funny.

      A thing is any difference in any shape or form. So, one can have wave theory based on form, and quantum mechanics based on material--without a contradiction. The contradictions are introduce on the fundamental of mathematical theory, and an unawareness of just what one is naming with the numbers.

      As I said, I have plenty to keep me busy while I attempt a reentry into lucid dreaming. I left it to verify the principles of grammar I was seeing. That is done.
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      I'll be your life partner.

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      First a relationship is an agreement between two people.
      Second, it is not the mark of an honest person who tries to give away that which is not thiers to give. Perhaps you should ask someone what "the age of consent" means.

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      What a strange and unhappy life you must have, man. No offense, but I think you're a little in over your head.

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      If you can look at the human condition today, and be happy then you don't even have a head to get over.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Philosopher8659 View Post
      If you can look at the human condition today, and be happy then you don't even have a head to get over.
      That's why ignorance is bliss. Hello by the way
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      So, you found some philosophies who have taken the royal road to bliss!
      Today we can achieve it through microwaving our hair every morning! The wonders of technology!

      Hello, to you too.

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      While your exemplary use of grammar and philisophical speaking are intriguing, a large part of me has difficulty believing you are as you say you are? Keep in mind that you are using a method to find love that is statisticaly the worst way possible. Answer me this. How are we to believe that you are in fact as intelligent as you say? How are we to believe that you are not just amusing yourself at our expense? Your twisted words and enlightining opinions have given me a pleasurable read without a doubt; but quiet frankly, any bozo with the internet could copy and paste such statements to help imitate true intelligence. Now i ask humbly, what is it that you have to teach us? If your wisdom in the subject that all of us here strive to learn is so impeccable, then please do share with us your knowledge. Also tell me, how is that you have attained lucidity in the past?

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      When I started as a young child I observed man's inability to do right. I said to myself, perhaps reality is too hard, can dreams be used to practice in. I set myself a goal, to simply tell my mother in a dream that I was in fact dreaming.

      I entered state on the third try. I found myself in our kitchen and my mother was doing the dishes, back to me. I looked around and started to leave. My mother turned and asked, "What do you want, Jay?" I remembered. I spread my hands and said, all of this is a dream.

      From then on I learned to role play in my dreams, to experiement.

      I often rebelled, I know that dreams of fear are a question to the dreamer--how important is knowing to you? Learn to calm your mind, and see.

      As far as my intelligence go, I did not ask you to believe it. I could give a rats ass if you do or not. If you would like a copy of some of my work, it has been on the net for years. Just recently, I let my sites go, for lack of interest. I use to make audiobooks, ebooks, etc and give them away free. No ad's, no thank you, simply free. The Underground Grammarian was one series, Mitchell was a very bright and funny guy. Dialogs of Plato anothe series. Math books, were original source documents, sometimes I would critique the work with just a few equations showing how horrible the work was. The author did not know how to write up a geometric figure into equations. Fact is, Cartesian geometry originated the same way. It is useful, but in a limited sense.

      It took me years to figure out what the meaning of a test in dreamstate was about, years before I understood the Trinity. All I know, is it is one of very few times I was spoken to in English. At the end of the test, all I got was All right. You win.

      The first part of the test was about perception, the second conception, the third will.

      At that time I was completely stumped as to what it was about.

      Your mind is not different from itself. One part of it does not teach the other part. And so, to start, questioning your own sanity is not a bad idea, however, when facts get involved, real facts, these are things you cannot even imagine.

      And you should not believe me about anything. That is not what it is about, learning by rote. Do it for yourself, between you and your teacher--and learn by experience--belief in words that you have no experience in, is exactly what judgment is not about.

      I will give you a hint about Christ. It was not about the miricles, It was about the Word becoming flesh. Word does not mean something different than word. If you learn to say what you see in his miricles, you will find the same metaphors in the OT. You had to say what you saw. Only someone who had understanding would have known what it was about. Those who always claim to talk in God's stead, did not even know the first thing about how one is taught. The same method that is used to teach in what you call the lucid dreamstate. Language begins with perception, saying what you see. As simple as that. Men are doing that--the sick are being healed, the dead raised.

      Now, if you still wish to believe me, when you know the truth is there to be found, you are a fool.

      Let me give you another hint. For over a couple thousand years, man has asked why there are two accounts of creation, a blessing and a curse. Watch as the curse is turned into a blessing.

      The Serpent spoke in the name of the Lord.
      What he said came to pass.
      God confirmed his words. (By Law, these three make the Serpent a prophet)
      Man's life was increased.
      Man became like God, knowing judgment.

      How is it, if Gen 3 was about the fall of man, did he become like God after the fall. Duh.

      What better way to test human judgment than by pitting the Biggest against the smallest.. Hello world, you failed. Don't worry, though, it was known that you were going to fail. Its a wake up call.
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      And so in response, you abandoned your philisophical bullshit for a second to say one thing that i could easily understand. That is, that you could give a rats ass as to whether or not i believe in your intelligence. However, i feel i may have been misunderstood. I do not doubt your intelligence, as your vocabulary in certain specific responses leaves me no doubt that you are a smart man/woman. It is to your authenticity as a person that my confidence is lacking. Your goal on these forums is not yet clear so please do explain? As for your authenticity, we will never know if you are a doped up college student playing games or in fact the very accomplished person you state to be. So i suppose a simple debt of trust is in order which i have no trouble granting to you. Now on the subject of you finding a mate take my advice, this is not the right place to be looking and a man of your intellectual capacity should be aware of that obvious truth. Awaiting your witty comeback

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      Witty reply.

      Some wise guy, said if one does not look, from the living unto the dead for truth, it is because there is no light in them.

      Secondly, I am hedging a bet. I could be wrong, however, if man is being taught in the lucid dreamstate, one would expect to find people who actually can comprehend better than those who do not.

      If there is an area here, to post perhaps PDF files, I would be glad to display some of my work.

      OH, shit Deliansolution.us is still active, how about that. Have not posted there in a long while. Deliansolution.com got bought up. There is a java sketch of the deliansolution still up.
      Is that witty enough?
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      Not its quiete alright. Again there is no way of you being able to prove that it is in fact your work so i will prolong that discussion no further. At what point did the most recent lucid dream you recall take place? What events took place? Why do you insist on speaking in vague responses? We are all people here, feel free to act like one ROBOT!
      Just Joshin ya

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      actually you can. You see to buy a web address, there is a public record of it. You can access it online. And I know one of the two sites, has my very own picture of me on it.

      And some of my work has The Trinity Project on it. I am John Clark.

      So, scarry isn't it? Oh, and my logo is 312. Look up John 3:12 That is the number of lines for each gliph.

      If you are hearing vague responses, take off the headphones.

      I even have some very old work of the delian project preserved on public distribution of a shareware CD rom. Imagine that.

      PS the email link on that site does not work, it goes to the site I let go.

      Is it not amazing, the point when people say "I don't understand him, he must therefore be a dumb ass." Talk about philosophical bull shit--we don't care who we slander in order to blow ourselves up to poster size. Have a great day.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Philosopher8659 View Post
      First a relationship is an agreement between two people.
      Second, it is not the mark of an honest person who tries to give away that which is not thiers to give. Perhaps you should ask someone what "the age of consent" means.
      Why do you have to hurt me so?

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      What does "the age of consent" mean thx

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      Ask your mom or dad, thx.

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      Playing hard to get, eh?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mark75 View Post
      Why do you have to hurt me so?

      PS

      What does "the age of consent" mean thx
      The age of consent is the age at which you are legal to choose to be with a partner 18 or older. The age of consent is 18.

      As for "one" blowing themselves up to poster size, Shamrox say, "look at yourself you must, only then will you find a big hypocritical poster."

      I can see this is going nowhere. I am only trying to recieve some of the knowledge you claim to posess. I believe we all were. I retire from this topic, enjoy the forums and i look forward to seeing posts from you in the future.

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      Always. I guess I was hatched that way.

      Well, I see you really understand what knowledge is. My, how impressive, you read my entire website and understood it in a few minutes. What are you doing on earth? And yes, you are going no where and fast, but that is your choice. If you think you can get wisdom on a silver platter, you have microwaved your hair too many times.

      Show me your years of work, I have opened mine to you, and you still boast like a fool.
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      Were you on dateline MSNBC's, "To catch a predator?" I swear I saw you on that show. Yea, I'm talking to you Philosopher8659.

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      Well, now is that not cute. One fool joins another. Have a great day! As you have noting intelligent to say, why do you open your mouth at all? There are some very intelligent people on this site, and they see right through you.

      Oh, gosh, now I am scared!
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      Yeah! You tell 'em!

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      Please do explain when and where my boasting began and ended? I have made no claims in this entire conversation, and made no mention of myself, my personal achievements or even intelligence. Therefore, how could i be boasting? You on the other hand have ran an entire topic on the stated. As i said politely there is no possible way of you proving your authenticity for the last time as we are on the INTERNET. Which is why i will not waste my valuable time reading "your" so called work. Nothing you can show me will prove what you have done. I asked you a simple question amongst all the rambling and that was if you would mind sharing your knowledge on lucid dreaming. I never recieved a response and as our discussion has dragged on it seems that your speech and reason have betrayed you. An obvious sign of your frustration, so i have humbly withdrawn and yet you still respond with confrentational words. Thank you for proving that you are as simple minded as the rest of us. Have a nice day.

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