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      Is there a hypothesis for why the peanut butter will make your dreams more vivid? Is this just delicious placebo?

      Is it assumed to have something to do with the B6 & Protein/Tryptophan connection?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      Is there a hypothesis for why the peanut butter will make your dreams more vivid? Is this just delicious placebo?

      Is it assumed to have something to do with the B6 & Protein/Tryptophan connection?
      Not to forget it has lots of Chloline and B3 (Niacin)

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      Took two tablespoons last night. I don't remember any dreams at all though...I'll try again tonight.

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      *raids university kitchen cupboards for peanut butter*

      Wish me luck! ;p
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      Quote Originally Posted by westonci View Post
      Not to forget it has lots of Chloline and B3 (Niacin)
      That's good enough for me. Just wondering, since I haven't heard anything about it until now.

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      How immature of me. I just robbed, err 'borrowed' someone's jar of peanut butter from the kitchen and left an IOU reading:

      'Your peanut butter has been commandeered for scientific research. After various studies have been conducted, then your peanut butter shall be returned in pristine condition with a reimbursement valued at the cost of taken peanut butter. Rest assured.'

      LoL Anyhow, I'll test this tonight.

      Four spoonfuls (15g per spoon). approx. 3mg of niacin per spoon.

      Organic crunchy peanut butter.
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      Here's a GREAT way to get mass quantities of PB into yer belly:

      • 1 cup sugar (you can cut this down to 3/4 cup, if you prefer)
      • 1 large egg
      • 1 cup peanut butter (crunchy or smooth)
      1. Combine sugar and egg in mixing bowl, stirring till smooth. Add peanut butter and mix in thoroughly.
      2. Roll into walnut-sized balls.
      3. Place the balls on ungreased cookie sheets at least 2" apart.
      4. Flatten with the tines of a fork.
      5. Turn 90 degrees and use fork again to create cross hatches.
      6. Bake 10 minutes at 375F (or till done). Let cool in pan for 1 minute before removing to cooling rack.

      Easiest PB cookies ever. We make these quite often.



      Enjoy!!!
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      Sounds quite interesting. I'll have to give it a whirl tonight.
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      Just brought some PB. I will give this a go tonight.

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      I noticed a slight increase in clarity during my dreams. However, I'm not entirely sure that it was the peanut butter that gave the effect. I shall try again tonight.
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      I also noticed that with taking peaut butter my dream recall is near perfect. Also my dreams are more exciting

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      I had a piece of Lindt extra dark chocolate(85% cocoa) and a slice of bread with peanut butter and banana at around 3during my WBTB. I didn't really notice a difference. But my motivation was lacking. I will try this again, with more motivation next time.
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      Peanut butter?
      Chocolate?

      Reese's Peanutbutter Cups... here I come.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Vex Kitten View Post
      Peanut butter?
      Chocolate?

      Reese's Peanutbutter Cups... here I come.
      And Bananas. And Milk.

      It sounds like we should have a Banana Split Induced Lucid Dream. Is there a reason people think only delicious food helps you? I don't see many people using Marmite and Sauerkraut to induce them.

      One more thing. Isn't there like 60 grams of fat and 1000 calories in 4 tablespoons of peanut butter? I don't have the label handy, but I don't think I'm exaggerating too much. Thats like half your calories for the day, and more fat than I consume in 3 days.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      Is there a reason people think only delicious food helps you? I don't see many people using Marmite and Sauerkraut to induce them..
      Lucid dreaming is just that good!

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      More peanut butter, yum.

      Four spoonfuls (15g per spoon). approx. 3mg of niacin per spoon at 1am.

      Organic crunchy peanut butter.

      However, it shall be confounded with the following: I consumed 1/2 litre of milk 20 minutes before this message.

      Hope it does something. ^_^
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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      And Bananas. And Milk.

      It sounds like we should have a Banana Split Induced Lucid Dream. Is there a reason people think only delicious food helps you? I don't see many people using Marmite and Sauerkraut to induce them.

      One more thing. Isn't there like 60 grams of fat and 1000 calories in 4 tablespoons of peanut butter? I don't have the label handy, but I don't think I'm exaggerating too much. Thats like half your calories for the day, and more fat than I consume in 3 days.
      Time for a new ILD - KRILD (Kraut Induced Lucid Dream).

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      My dreams last night were definitely more chaotic and full of action. This itself, caused the dreams to appear more vivid than usual.

      I'll try again tonight.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Quark View Post
      My dreams last night were definitely more chaotic and full of action. This itself, caused the dreams to appear more vivid than usual.

      I'll try again tonight.
      I noticed that too, the other night that I took the peanut butter I was on an expedition on mount Everest. It does lead to interesting dreams.

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      All the great tasting food that helps us dream better will probably end up helping us become quickly overwieght if we start gorging on all this stuff regularly.

      Mmm. reese's peanut butter cup banana splits.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      One more thing. Isn't there like 60 grams of fat and 1000 calories in 4 tablespoons of peanut butter? I don't have the label handy, but I don't think I'm exaggerating too much. Thats like half your calories for the day, and more fat than I consume in 3 days.
      A bit exaggerated, but still a good point: Peanut butter is an extremely calorically dense food. 4 tablespoons = 32g of fat, 420 calories. Furthermore, unless you're buying the "natural" and/or organic varieties of peanut butter, you're getting a significant amount of trans fat with that. I wouldn't make a habit of eating a lot of peanut butter before going to bed. (Although really you're not supposed to eat anything before going to bed.)

      Health issues aside, what could there be in 4 tablespoons of peanut butter that could potentiate dreams?
      • Niacin (B3)= 8.6 mg (42% DV)
      • Pantothenic Acid (B5) = 0.4 mg (6% DV)
      • B6 = 0.4 mg (18% DV)
      • B12 = none
      • Choline = 40.4 mg (RDA isn't established for choline, but nutritionists recommend anywhere from 425mg to 1500mg per day)
      • Tryptophan = 145.2 mg (by comparison, a can of tuna contains 440mg)
      As you can see, peanut butter does not contain a significant amount of any of these nutrients which are thought to affect dreams. There is far less of each than would be found in a simple multivitamin, and when you compare these amounts to the amounts people take around here to increase dreaming, it's absolutely insignificant.

      I did a quick search and found a list of some other foods that people have posted as dreaming aids if eaten before bedtime. Here's what I found:
      • Chocolate
      • Cheese
      • V8 Juice
      • Milk
      • Garlic
      • Bananas
      • Raisins
      • Jelly Beans (yes, nutritionally bankrupt jelly beans)
      • Pickles
      • Ice cream
      • Brewer's yeast
      • "Chinese food" (???)
      Conlusion? Eating any food at all before going to bed causes you to have more intense dreams.

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      so, how many milligrams should u take to get the effect?
      ill be getting B3 pills monday, but as of now i took one Multi Vitamin pill, (5 mg of B3), just wondering if itll work as well
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      Quote Originally Posted by DuB View Post
      As you can see, peanut butter does not contain a significant amount of any of these nutrients which are thought to affect dreams.
      Noo! Don't ruin my placebo effect it has been working so well, and we all know that dreaming is about believing!

      I did hate that 4tbsp = tons of trans fats. Especially having studied organic chemistry. Blagh

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      Well if you buy the "natural" or organic peanut butter that's made without hydrogenated oil, it's actually pretty good for you. Still a lot of calories, though.

      Anyway, my point isn't that the peanut butter is a placebo effect, per se. My point is that eating anything around bedtime or during WBTB will potentiate dreams, so there's no need to target a calorically dense food like peanut butter.

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      k so, i took a multi vitamin pill last night, which gives very close to the amount of B3 in 4 spoonfulls of peanut butter, only without all the fat and stuff. i had sooo many dreams that were incredibly long and vivid. it was unreal! it wokred so well. i didnt help me with Lucid dreaming, although im sure if ur a DILD'er, taking multi vitamins will help a lot
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