Good luck! |
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Note: Okay so I know there are already threads about salvia but I went through most of them and they're either really old or everyone talks about extracts so I wanted to go ahead make a separate post to get peoples' current opinions about the plain leaf. |
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Good luck! |
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I can't help since I've only tried extracts (20X) which made me have only a little more vivid dreams. Only once after smoking it made me have 3 lucids that night, so I'm not sure that plain leaf will have noticeable oneirogen effects. |
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I like destruction and reality, and one invariably leads to the other.
'Dreams are real while they last. Can we say more of life?'
'We die to remember what we live to forget'
plain leaves will surely have an oneirogenic effect |
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Cool, keep us updated. Maybe make a little template or something to log your experiences in? |
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So I kind of jumped the gun with this and decided to go ahead and try it out to see if there were any effects. I started small last night and only smoked between 0.1-0.2 grams of dried leaf in a bong a couple hours before I went to sleep. The immediate effects were very mild with only some minor pulsing of my visuals for a couple minutes and then a bit of a high for about 10-15 minutes before I was back to normal. |
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i am glad you had the chance to try it out. |
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Hm - interesting - never heard of it in connection to dreaming. I believe it's legal here as well - or at least was ages ago when I tried it. Quite intensely dissociating stuff - so it would makes sense to see a connection to LDs - looking forward to further reports. |
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Oh wow there's no tolerance? For some reason when I first learned about it someone told me that it was something that if taken too often could lose its effect completely, that's good to know! And I'll definitely try the leaf in my cheek when I go to bed, that sounds like it has much more potential than smoking because of the slow release throughout the night. Hope you get to try it soon too and let us know how it works out for you! |
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Last edited by Fuzzman; 04-23-2014 at 03:47 AM.
I tried again last night with good results! About 30 minutes before bed I smoked 0.25 grams quickly and had an almost uncomfortable feeling from it, not really much hallucination other than vivid colors and pulsing visuals but it just made me feel anxious for a few minutes. Then right before bed I brushed my teeth and chewed on a whole leaf for a bit, tucked it in between by gums and cheek, and then fell asleep. |
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Hey ho - keep us posted. |
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Nah I haven't tried either of those, I have some B6 and melatonin pills from a while back when I first got into LDing so I'm taking those occasionally. I've just been looking into this at the moment since it's pretty much free for me and readily available. I figured some of those pills could be expensive and also mostly wanted to try to stay natural so I don't rely on supplements too much. But I'll look into them, from what I've seen it looks like they'd be good to take anyway since they improve memory and other functions, and maybe if I combine all of the supplements I could have some mind blowing experience. |
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Take care about it - you should consider making breaks or rotate different schemes or some such to prevent tolerance and diminishing effects - like with most things, I guess. |
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Oh of course, I don't plan on taking any supplements often, I want to be able to lucid dream naturally without any help, I just think it would be neat to enhance my dreams occasionally. Though I think it is interesting that someone previously said that the Salvia doesn't have any kind of tolerance, which I looked into and it seems other people agree. But either way I still plan on just doing any kind of supplements rarely so that I don't feel like I need them to have lucid dreams. All of these first tryouts were to see if I could notice the effects as of now and see if it really did make a difference and I was very surprised by the results. |
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hey Fuzzman |
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Third time trying it, this time I did it during a WBTB after ~4 hours of sleep. I got up to brush my teeth real quick and then took two fresh leaves with slits cut in them, chewed them a few times, and then stuck them in my cheek and went back to bed. Took me a little while to fall back asleep but I had a dream maybe within an hour after putting the leaves in though it wasn't anything intense, I think the leaves hadn't reached their full potential yet by that point. I did wake briefly and it was easy to recall a few details but I went back to sleep quickly. The next dream was definitely enhanced more than usual and it was really easy to recall details when I woke up, almost like I could feel the transition from dream to waking and the details came rushing at me as soon as I woke up. I had quite a few moments of heightened awareness and nearly became lucid but didn't fully get there. I was thinking about dreaming a lot during it and there were moments where I felt like my brain was trying to give me signals to become lucid but because I'm still too inexperienced I just missed out on the clues. |
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