Thread: Editing/Revisions/Proof-Reading Department

Got everything up until the bold done. I'll have the rest within a couple of days. I might also make more changes to this first bit if I think something could have been said better.

There are many, many approaches to any given lucid dreaming technique. Advanced lucid dreamers will have their own personal interpretations of lucidity and experiences.

Furthermore, lucid dreaming is a highly personalized skill. A given philosophy relating to lucid dreaming may work for one person and fail for another. It is important for each person who is practicing lucid dreaming to experiment with a variety of conflicting ideas. **Note: I think we should leave references to a community for the end of the book. If you don't think so, then it needs its own paragraph.**

There are different techniques, attitudes, and ideas pertaining to the science of dream awareness- each one stemming from an approach belonging to the individuals who originally presented said suggestions.

Each approach carries its own strengths, assumptions, reason for acceptance by the undertaker, and (seemingly) holes in its philosophy. Most lucid dreamers believe in each of the three following approaches to at least some extent. It is up to the reader to determine not which approaches to believe, but to determine which approaches to place the most emphasis on.

Which approach seems most scientific? Which approach seems most logical? Which approach seems most helpful? Read on- and decide.

here is a rough draft. feel free to mess around with it

Spoiler for Dream World/Reality Checks/Dream Signs:

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is nearly impossible. It really isn't.

All you need to do is look around. Examine things. Don't just think of an explaination.


In the dream world, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming.

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Clocks may be set wrong.

Text will be blurry or wavy.

Your hands may not have the right amount of fingers.

The architecture of buildings may be different.

The geography of places may be different.

Things may look different colors. ex: Black and White, Monotone, Orangish, Blueish, etc....

Text will never be the same the second time around.

Things may just be 100% wierd. ex: Flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard, etc.....


There are many things that can signal you are dreaming.

If you can successfully notice these signs then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming.


A dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or is a recurring element. ex: Water, school, fear, driving, etc....

If you do reality checks[see kromoh chapter 4] periodically whenever you see or think about your dream sign or when something doesnt seem right, you will build a habit that carries over into dreams.

Done with the next part.

As you can see, I've made quite a few changes. I've swapped up the wording, deleted a couple sentences, and combined two paragraphs.

MAJOR APPROACHES-
1. Our Dreams are Based on Our Mindset
2. Our Dreams are Based on Our Conscious/Sub-Conscious Thoughts
3. Our Dreams are Based on Our Feelings/Dream Methodology


1.) The differences between regular dreams and lucid dreams are determined by the dreamer's level of awareness.

We have the standard dreaming mindset and the lucid dreaming mindset. The standard manner of dreaming is dominated by a 'go with the flow' attitude. That is, the dreamer drifts through the dream environment without analyzing their situation.

The sleeper's dream has all but been scripted by their subconscious- everything that they think, do, and say are how things are supposed to happen within the dream. The sleeper doesn't have a choice in the matter. Without having a conscious mind, the sleeper does not have any options. In a dream where the unconscious mind believes it is living in reality, a perfectly normal person may find themselves butchering their mother or casually interacting with green-skinned aliens. In order to dream in this unquestioning fashion, the sleeper must be following the script

The second mindset is akin to the waking or conscious mindset. This attitude is perceptive, aware, and able to make rational decisions. Lucidity is achieved when this outlook is reached within a dream.

Indeed, the very nature of lucid dream induction lies in achieving this state of mind. Reality checks, MILDs, WILDs, and many other techniques which are explained in this book are attempts to break or bypass the regular dreaming style. Further, dream control has its entire backbone in asserting the conscious mind-set.

Thanks Bleags
I'll go through it more thoroughly when I get home.

Banana, great stuff! Do you think you could put it in a paragraph form first? Or did you want us to go ahead and set it up for you? Thanks for all the work

i suck really bad at the sentence placement and the paragraphs, your going to need to do that for me

I edited spelling and grammar, strung the sentences together and created somewhat of a flow, it is a good start but more info is definitely needed...

Spoiler for VERSION 1.0 "Dream World/Reality Checks/Dream Signs":

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is nearly impossible. It really isn't.

All you need to do is look around. Examine things. Don't just think of an explaination.


In the dream world, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming.

--------------

Clocks may be set wrong.

Text will be blurry or wavy.

Your hands may not have the right amount of fingers.

The architecture of buildings may be different.

The geography of places may be different.

Things may look different colors. ex: Black and White, Monotone, Orangish, Blueish, etc....

Text will never be the same the second time around.

Things may just be 100% wierd. ex: Flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard, etc.....


There are many things that can signal you are dreaming.

If you can successfully notice these signs then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming.


A dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or is a recurring element. ex: Water, school, fear, driving, etc....

If you do reality checks[see kromoh chapter 4] periodically whenever you see or think about your dream sign or when something doesnt seem right, you will build a habit that carries over into dreams.

Spoiler for EDITED VERSION 2.0 Dream World/Reality Checks/Dream Signs:

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is quite difficult; it does not have to be. All you need to do is look around, question, and examine things. Don't just think up and accept an explanation.

In the dream world, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming. Clocks may be set wrong and not make any sense. Text can be blurry and will never read the same on a second glance. Your hands may look very distorted, like, not having the correct amount of fingers. The architecture of buildings and the geography of places may be different. Colors may appear distorted on things; hues may be higher or lower than usual.In general, things may appear to be 100% weird; i.e. flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard, etc... If you can successfully notice these dream signs, then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming.

A dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or is a recurring element; i.e. water, school, having to use the restroom, driving, eating etc... If you do reality checks [see kromoh chapter 4] whenever you see or think about your dream sign in real life or when something happens out of the ordinary, you will build a reality checking habit that carries over into your dreams.

Great work Jess

CoLd BLooDed Has Been Promoted to Department Co-Leader

Sorry what? LOL

Just a couple of very slight gramatical changes, use if you agree.

Spoiler for VERSION 2.0 Dream World/Reality Checks/Dream Signs:

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is quite difficult; it does not have to be. All you need to do is look around, question, and examine things. Don't just think up and accept an explanation.

In the dream world, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming. Clocks may be set wrong and not make any sense. Text can be blurry and will never read the same on a second glance. Your hands may look very distorted, like, not having the correct amount of fingers. The architecture of buildings and the geography of places may be different. Colors may appear distorted on things; hues may be higher or lower than usual.In general, things may appear to be 100% weird; i.e. flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard, etc... If you can successfully notice these dream signs, then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming.

A dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or is a recurring element; i.e. water, school, having to use the restroom, driving, eating etc... If you do reality checks [see kromoh chapter 4] whenever you see or think about your dream sign in real life or when something happens out of the ordinary, you will build a reality checking habit that carries over into your dreams.

Spoiler for EDITED VERSION 2.1 Dream World/Reality Checks/Dream Signs:

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is quite difficult, it does not have to be. All you need to do is look around, question, and examine things. Don't just think up and accept an explanation.

In the dream world, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming. Clocks may be set wrong and not make any sense. Text can be blurry and will never read the same on a second glance. Your hands may look distorted, like, not having the correct amount of fingers. The architecture of buildings and the geography of places may be different. Colors may appear distorted on things; hues may be higher or lower than usual. In general, things may appear to be 100% weird; i.e., flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard, etc... If you can successfully notice these dream signs, then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming.

A dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or is a recurring element; i.e., water, school, having to use the restroom, driving, eating etc... If you do reality checks [see kromoh chapter 4] whenever you see or think about your dream sign in real life or when something happens out of the ordinary, you will build a reality checking habit that carries over into your dreams.

They're so small you might not notice. Just added a comma after the introductory i.e. and removed the use of a semicolon at the beginning as the following line did not merit semicolon use. Oh and we use one period after the use of etc.

Looks great, thanks Adam!
I can't believe I still overlook those little details, good thing we have some fabulous proof readers

-loves adam and jess-

thanks guys

im done with that article so feel free to add and move things around as much as you want.

You guys are doing a great job

Sorry, I had some slight picking with the flow of this section. At parts it seems somewhat stunted; tell me if you do or do not like what I've done with it.

AND WHOMEVER IS WRITING THESE, IT'S TWO SPACES AFTER EACH PERIOD. THANK YOU.

Spoiler for EDITED VERSION 2.2:

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is quite difficult, [when truly,] it does not have to be. [Essentially, you are required to do is look around observe your surroundings and situations, examine them, and in turn question whatever strange occurrences you notice] question, and examine things. [It is unwise to let the explanation your dreamworld has made for you suffice] Don't just think up and accept an explanation.

In the dreamworld, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming. Clocks may be set wrong and not make any sense [or be incomprehensible]. Text[, or words,] can be blurry and will never read the same on a second glance. Your hands may look distorted, like [for example], not having the correct amount of fingers [(or even having multiple hands!)]. The architecture of buildings and the geography of places [you actually know] may be different. Colors may appear distorted [different] on [certain objects, people, or creatures] things; hues may be higher or lower [becoming more intense and vivid or faded and dull] than usual. In general, things may appear to be 100% weird [your dreamworld could be rife with so much oddity and weirdness that you would have to be insane to miss it;] i.e., flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard, etc [and so forth]...

If you can successfully notice these dream signs, then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming. [But wait, you ask, what in the world is a dream sign?]

A dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or is a recurring element; i.e., water, school, having to use the restroom, driving, eating, etc... If you do reality checks [see kromoh chapter 4] whenever you see or think about your dream sign in real life or when something happens out of the ordinary, you will build a reality checking habit that carries over into your dreams.

Hope that works. (Yes I know I basically rewrote the thing )

Thanks CB.... I'll go over it tonight... errr... atleast by tomorrow

About the two spaces - this is debatable. You'll learn in college that it really doesn't matter. The original reason two spaces were used, began in the "typewriter age" when it was necessary because only monospaced fonts were used. Now with all the "fancy" word processors we have, one space is fine. I know in all my classes I used one space.

Any other thoughts on this?

Much more immersive and professional sounding


Very good CB

Two spaces is bull. That's what I always hear. And if you type it out, it looks so strange, too.

I like two spaces better than one. One space, to me, makes things look too condensed.

Originally Posted by dreamingofdreaming

Looks great, thanks Adam!
I can't believe I still overlook those little details, good thing we have some fabulous proof readers

No problem - I cannot proof read my own work. I think it's because in my mind I already know what I'm wanting to say, so skip over the smaller details. Although CB seems to have completely re-written it now LOL

I just hope people understand what I mean by flow?

Apologies if I overstepped my boundaries.

Like ebb and flow? LOL

Nah it sounds fine to me, however, would maybe think of changing this sentence: "But wait, you ask, what in the world is a dream sign?"

To be it seems a little patronizing or condescending as if the reader would be a complete numpty and not have a clue. I think we have to assume the audience could have some knowledge and is reading to learn more? What do you think?

Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed

Spoiler for EDITED VERSION 2.2:

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is quite difficult, [when truly,] it does not have to be. [Essentially, you are required to do is look around observe your surroundings and situations, examine them, and in turn question whatever strange occurrences you notice] question, and examine things. [It is unwise to let the explanation your dreamworld has made for you suffice] Don't just think up and accept an explanation.

In the dreamworld, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming. Clocks may be set wrong and not make any sense [or be incomprehensible]. Text[, or words,] can be blurry and will never read the same on a second glance. Your hands may look distorted, like [for example], not having the correct amount of fingers [(or even having multiple hands!)]. The architecture of buildings and the geography of places [you actually know] may be different. Colors may appear distorted [different] on [certain objects, people, or creatures] things; hues may be higher or lower [becoming more intense and vivid or faded and dull] than usual. In general, things may appear to be 100% weird [your dreamworld could be rife with so much oddity and weirdness that you would have to be insane to miss it;] i.e., flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard, etc [and so forth]...

If you can successfully notice these dream signs, then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming. [But wait, you ask, what in the world is a dream sign?]

A dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or is a recurring element; i.e., water, school, having to use the restroom, driving, eating, etc... If you do reality checks [see kromoh chapter 4] whenever you see or think about your dream sign in real life or when something happens out of the ordinary, you will build a reality checking habit that carries over into your dreams.

Looks VERY good CB! I made a few minor changes; some personal things that probably don't make a huge difference and a few necessary corrections.

What do you guys think?

Spoiler for VERSION 2.3:

You may think that noticing the difference between the real world and the dream world is quite difficult, when [truly] in actuality, it does not have to be. Essentially, you are required to observe your surroundings and situations, examine them, and in turn question whatever strange occurrences you notice. It is unwise to sufficiently accept the explanation that your dream world has made for you [suffice].

In the dream world, many things can alert you to the fact that you are dreaming. Clocks may be set wrong or be incomprehensible. Text of any form can be blurry and will never read the same on a second glance. Your hands may look distorted, for example, not having the correct amount of fingers (or even having multiple hands!). The architecture of buildings and the geography of places you are familiar with [you actually know] may be different. Colors may appear distorted or unusual [different] on certain objects, people, or creatures; hues becoming more intense and vivid or faded and dull than usual. In general, your dream world could be rife with so much oddity and weirdness that it would seem you would have to be insane to miss it; i.e., flying cabinets, blue pigs, your mom has a beard and so forth.

If you can successfully notice these dream signs, then you are well on your way to lucid dreaming. [But wait, you ask, what in the world is a dream sign?]

To clarify, a dream sign is something that happens repeatedly in your dreams or as [is] a recurring element; i.e., water, school, having to use the restroom, driving, eating, etc.[..] If you do reality checks [see Kromoh chapter 4] whenever you see or think about your dream sign in real life or when something happens out of the ordinary, you will build a reality checking habit that carries over into your dreams.

I like that a lot. I was using the 'But wait, you ask...' in more of a joking manner - truly, though, it was meant for a transition... and Jess fixed it so it's all good.

That looks great; I think we're nearing perfection on this piece.

So when can I add into or change the content of these?

(Not to say you all didn't do a great job. ^__^)