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      Meditation during Lucid Dream

      Hey , guys. I know that similar topics already exist but I want kind of "actualize" it...
      Have you tried to meditate in a lucid dream ?
      What kind of meditation ?
      What was the result ?
      Any specific experiences and details ?

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      I have tried to modify my breathing while I was doing differents oniric activity, I have to practise more times, but I think that it can be good for stability control, and to concentrate in complicated tasks without too excitement

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      Have you tried to meditate in a lucid dream ?

      Yes.

      What kind of meditation ?


      Zazen (open awareness), Mantra, and Samatha (focus on breath)

      What was the result ?


      A qualitative shift in the environment, dream body, and mind. Also there has been a shimmering of the whole field of vision.

      One must first develop some level of adequacy in generating the meditative state through systematic daily practice before one can hope to activate the meditative state quickly enough to effect the quality or type of the lucid dream state.

      I have found due to the time restraint of your average Lucid dream, and the pull of exiting sensory data at hand, it is difficult to sit and focus on your breath or look at a wall. Since Samatha requires intense concentration on a single object, one will end up not moving much, but you will be meditating in the lucid dream state.

      On the more formless types of meditation, this is a bit easier. Assuming one has reached a certain crux of development, and thus has gained the ability to quickly activate the meditative state-pattern, it is possible to start meditating within the lucid dream, and then continue it while moving about.

      One of the best ways to bring the meditative state into the lucid dream state is generating a stable meditative state right before attempting a WILD, if it is successful, it is much easier to sustain the meditative state already present than create one while already in the dream; because there are not the same temptations or time restraint, it is easier to meditate while in the waking state.

      However, in the case of highly advanced 'consciousness engineers', like the adepts of the Tantric schools, having reached mastery over both of these states through years of systematic practice, they can easily merge both states for extended periods of time. Part of the reason they do this is because the meditative state and lucid dream state are synergistic, their mutual activation can intensify the qualities of both.
      "Parable.- Those thinkers in whom all stars move in cyclic orbits are not the most profound: whoever looks into himself as into vast space and carries galaxies in himself also knows how irregular all galaxies are; they lead into the chaos and labyrinth of existence."- Friedrich Nietzsche, the gay science, First published in 1882 revised in 1887, translated by Walter Kaufmann [/SIGPIC]

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      Quote Originally Posted by Valis1 View Post
      Have you tried to meditate in a lucid dream ?

      Yes.

      What kind of meditation ?


      Zazen (open awareness), Mantra, and Samatha (focus on breath)

      What was the result ?


      A qualitative shift in the environment, dream body, and mind. Also there has been a shimmering of the whole field of vision.
      Valis1, what type of meditation did you use ?

      The meditation I use in waking is mixed and it has 5 steps:
      1.Focus on you breath(4 - 7 minutes).
      2.Feel relaxation in your body during breathing out(3 - 4 minutes).
      3.Focus on your whole body or focusing on it partly, extending to the whole body(5 - 10 minutes).
      4.Focus on the space around you expanding the focus and feeling of the space to the infinity(5 - as much as you want minutes).
      5.Focus on all the sounds around you at the same time (5 - as much as you want minutes).

      I want to try this technique in a LD.

      I have read about some Lucid Dreamers' experiences: During a meditation in LD their dream dissolves and they find theirselves in a space of "nothingness" and "ifinity". Thats interesting. I think you can recreate the dream like that using thoughts in meditative state.

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      I tried something like that a year or so ago. I don't what type of meditation it would be called, but I basically floated up a bit in the air, crossed my legs, and closed my dream eyes to relax and focus on “nothing” (or maybe my breath or something; I don't remember). After a few seconds of this I woke up, going through a brief period of hypnagogic imagery on the way. I'm not sure whether the awakening was coincidental or perhaps due to my having lost focus on the dream in trying to meditate.

      I don't consider myself that accomplished a meditator yet (I don't believe I've ever encountered any fancy deep states or anything), so I'm not sure if that counts as a valid data point for you.

      Searching my journal, this seems to be the only time I've tried meditating during a LD so far.

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      mediation during lucid dream i haven't try though but sure i will give it a try i think i will go onto dream inside dream.

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