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      I'm sorry cusp, but my dream is quite different. I don't see shapes like you do. I think we can relate with our feeling of getting stretched there.

      As if our insides were being pulled out.

      Any ideas on what the meaning is?

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      I always had these too! When I was younger, I had the most terrifying dreams. Very similar to what you desribed, between reality and dreams. My parents I could hear on the "outside" but as you described, I had horrific geometric shapes, I don't know why they derrified me so much. They actually resembled giant tylenol chewables (the pink ones). I remember clearly A blue background, and being trapped in this dimension where I could barely move. Knowing something was going to do something to me. It felt like these tylenol pills or shapes were just trying to utterly detroy me, and crush me (I physicall felt crushed) and traumatize when I woke up. Also, I had a hallucination of my parents fan when I had fevers also. I felt it coming closer and knew it was gonna cut me. These dreams traumatized me, but I haven't had them since.

      I never knew others had such similar ones, its good to know
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      huh. It's weird how many people actually experience this! Very interesting... luckily, I haven't had one of these dreams/hallucinations in a long time, but I can remember the sensation all too well.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Burns View Post
      huh. It's weird how many people actually experience this! Very interesting... luckily, I haven't had one of these dreams/hallucinations in a long time, but I can remember the sensation all too well.
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      Yeah I think many people can, its too bad, I was always afraid I'd have another.
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      Does anyone know why this is common among people? Many people I've spoken too think that they are unique for having them, but some of the desscripitons sound EXACTLY like some of my fever/platonic solids dreams, ...weird...any ideas, it seems odd it would be this common.
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      Edit: I was way off-base. Oh well, leaving this for posterity. Please don't think I'm talking about the same thing.

      Spirit realm pops into my mind. Sorry, I don't actually recall having a dream like this, but I've had many daydreams like this. Sometimes that makes me think lucid dreams shouldn't matter to me... daydreams cover so much. Anyhow, certain elements of those dreams mesh closely enough with my religion (Christian) that I end up tying the parts of those dreams to God, Satan, demons and angels (can't be sure which is which, though). The infinite slowness is probably just what God experiences, except that it seems strange to a human and not to him.

      I'll add one of these to my lucid To Do list. Eventually I'll have to try to trigger one of these and delve into it... maybe I'll meet my maker and say hi.
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      wow. i had those feverdreams too when i was a child. Those descriptions are so recognizable. and that dry tongue thing italianmonkey talks about . i remember that i had these weird feelings of chewing on pieces of leather.
      Allthough i dont recall any platonic solids, for me it was just some huge solid pillars with immense gravitational forces. and then they would swoop back and these tiny things would do there thing. and woosh the pillar again. crunching them. It would be set in some dark space . no specifics though. i do recall different themes , though. Sometimes it would just be chaotic speed and slow changes.
      When i was around 17 i used to smoke sigarettes out the window before sleeping. and one night after i finished my sigarette i tried to fall asleep, but then i had one of those dreams and i didnt even sleep yet. i was clearly awake. So to get rid of it, i tried reading, then watching television, listening music. i even smoked another sigarette. it was soo freaking me out. Guess it took like 10 minutes , then it just passed; cant really remember how it went away, when i think of it.
      For a long time i couldnt even think about those dreams , for they would just begin then. i could feel them slip into my mind when i thought of them. but i am passed that now, i wouldnt be able to read this thread otherwise.
      and reading this thread is really nice. thanks all.

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      That&#39;s weird Pawstalker. That dream came back to me in my teens as well. I&#39;m not sure if having it while awake would make it better or worse.

      Your cigarettes reminded me of something i read once. There are some tobacco plants that are so potent, they make you hallucinate. Some African tribes use them to communicate with spirits.

      Having that dream again has been on my lucid to do list for a long time, but I&#39;ve never got around to actually doing it. One of these days...

      Here&#39;s a picture some woman painted after having a platonic solids dream


      I also just came cross an old play by Plato called "The Timaeus". The following is from this site, http://www.anunnaki.org/productions/timaeus.php

      Summary:
      The young Timaeus, stricken by fever, discovers the platonic solids and elementals in a fantastical journey.

      ...We speculate, that like many of the visionaries of the renaissance world, Timaeus encountered his inspiration of the platonic solids from an encounter with the akkadian noumens of inspired delirium.


      Sound familiar? That play was written around 300 BC, so I&#39;m geussing people have been having these dreams for a long time. There has got to be more information on this somewhere.


      Actually, I hereby officially name these types of dreams THE TIMAEUS.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The View Post
      Actually, I hereby officially name these types of dreams THE TIMAEUS.[/b]
      Sounds good to me Now I can actually call them something, hehe

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      Quote Originally Posted by The View Post
      But can any of you guys confirm the Platonic Solids as the shapes?[/b]
      I used to have a Recurring dream just like these accept there wern&#39;t any distinct shapes. it actually involved old people
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      I was amazed reading the description for these dreams - I had always wondered how to explain them.
      I only remember having actual shapes in one dream, there was a rectangular wooden block that just slowly got larger.
      But the feeling of slowness and sickness were the same for me - a kind of thumping and humming that just got louder and louder, and larger and slower. With the feeling that I couldn&#39;t escape.

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      Welcome aboard&#33; Way more people than I thought have dreams like this.

      Imp, interesting that you wrote that block kept getting larger. I just read a post that sounds like one of these dreams in the general dream discussion area. THey mentioned a sphere that kept expanding. I can&#39;t quite remember from my own dreams, but that expanding somehow feels right.

      http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/inde...howtopic=46368

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      And another possible link to this topic
      http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=32290

      About strange dreams induced by diabetese. I know it runs in my family, but I've almost always been in half decent shape, so I dont worry about it. But when I was a kid binging on sugar? Which is when I had the majority of these dreams, as a kid. And I did eat a lot of those gummy bears, swedish berries and fish... mmm... candy
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      Dungeons @ Dragons

      Assuming I'm on the right track with the platonic solids, I have a theory on how the game Dungeons and Dragons got such an evil reputation. It's all because of the dice. Which contain all of the platonic solids.

      I remember the first time I saw [email protected] dice, how the almost felt magical. They reminded me of something I couldn't quite put my finger on at the time.

      It appears these dreams are fairly common, and I'd be willing to bet most people have had these dreams as children. The majority just don't remember, and even if you do it's hard to make sense of.

      My theory is those dice rolling around awoke some unsettling memories in some people, and they branded the game evil as a result.

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      I've had a few of something like what you've described, though they were never as profound as you described. Either on this forum or ld4all, someone else mentioned that sort of neverending slowness and referred to it as the Grinds, but that's just because his experience with it was of grinding a skateboard on a rail allllll niiiiiight looooooong. For me they're typically overwhelming and stressful and I feel trapped in them... but it not scary or epiphanic, really.

      Interestingly, my most memorable of these sorts of fever dreams involved a massive pyramid under a dark sky... but it wasn't pure, it also had legos and (slowmotion) swashbuckling and quicksand and all sorts of typical dream bizarreness. I can't say I've had these kinds outside of being sick, although I've certainly had momentously profound dreams in general. They just didn't involve that wicked slowness of the fever dream.

      edit: I just remembered, I once had a horrible, horrible dream involving mathematics and algebra. I don't remember anything about the dream or how long it was or felt, but when I woke up I swear I was thinking in numbers. For 10-15 minutes I was terrified of going outside of my room because the variables involved would equal something, like in an equation, although I don't know what the something in question might have been. It wore off, but man... creepy.
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      The Grinds. I like the sound of that, a good term.

      This thread has gone on long enough without getting into the nitty gritty of things. I've spent most of my adult life trying to find out more about this and I have squat to show for it.

      The platonic solids are tricky things in themselves, showing up everywhere. The Jewish Star of David is a 2d representation of a Tetrahedron. The Christian cross is a flattened cube. Most pyramids are Octahedrons. The Pentagram is a Dodecahedron. Crystals form naturally in the form of the platonic solids, as do molecules. They are EVERYWHERE. Maybe they are everything.

      There is absolutely no good reason I should dream of the platonic solids as a very young child, or even understand what they were. But yet there they were in my dreams. An in lots of other people's dreams as well.

      There has got to be some fundamental secret locked away in these shapes. There are a lot of occultish writings concerning the platonic solids, some of questionable value, but most are understandably complicated. The dream alone is difficult enough comprehend.

      Anyways, I don't have anything definitive on this subject yet, but it has led to many an interesting side topic. Many conflicting, I'm just waiting for something to click in my head. Some new piece of information that will shed some new light on the whole thing and put it into a new context. I can't help feeling I'm getting close.

      This thread has been a tremendous help, and I'd like to thank everyone who posted.

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      Curious as to what causes this.

      I remember last year when I had a "one day" fever that hit me hard... I woke up at about 3AM, and even though I knew I was awake, I was sort of drifting away with my eyes open slipping away into something... and it felt like I had to reach with my hands and grab onto something... the feeling of insanity - I was ready to jump out of bed and wake up my roommate. But I didn't, because I managed to really ground myself in this reality and calm myself down. I forced HI imagery because if I didn't, I felt I was drifting away into this slowness, this madness.

      So... yeah...

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      While my fever dreams seem completely different to what everyone else has, the feelings of slowness and deafening silence somehow feel familiar to me. What I remember is like a string with things (shapes like cotton reels) going round and round it. At the same time there is like a continuously dripping tap (faucet), just going drip drip drip all the time, never ceasing, almost hypnotic. Also the feeling of eyes staring at me. I go to do things and these eyes are just looking at me, things do seem a little in slow motion, but those eyes... I think the sensation though is the worst part of the dream.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Spamtek View Post

      edit: I just remembered, I once had a horrible, horrible dream involving mathematics and algebra. I don't remember anything about the dream or how long it was or felt, but when I woke up I swear I was thinking in numbers. For 10-15 minutes I was terrified of going outside of my room because the variables involved would equal something, like in an equation, although I don't know what the something in question might have been. It wore off, but man... creepy.
      im not sure Ive met the platonic solids, or even know what that is o_O *in my mind a platonic can not be..solid??*

      but I have had pain and illness induced hallucinations. they keep me up at night and prevent me from actually falling into a dream. sometimes its visual, one time it was the color green sweeping from my feet and stopping at my stomach, of which my stomach hurt terrible after the color green settled in. it was strange because I had the hallucination before I was in ill

      but other times my mind races with the most bizarre and illogical thoughts - such as thinking in math. when I snapped out of it, what I was thinking was so abstract I could barely reason with it when I woke up.

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      that's weird, I don't remember ever having a dream like this but when I tripped out on Salvia I had an experience that sounds pretty similar. I entered this horrific flat world where I realized my whole life had just been a pleasant dream and now I was back in the real world of being nothing more than an inanimate object in an infinite universe of objects that only exist to twist and pull and shape the fabric of the universe. it was honestly the scariest experience i've ever had in my life.

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      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      such as thinking in math. when I snapped out of it, what I was thinking was so abstract I could barely reason with it when I woke up.
      last night i felt asleep feeling as i was a logic rule

      i mean, i felt like i was "shaped" like the rules written on my notebook
      ... and obviously i also thought like i was!
      so stupid
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      Now I think of it the last nightmare I had (few weeks ago) had geometrical qualities. I saw 4 faces shining on a square surface which was itself part of a large black cube (like a cushion bean bag thing). I had to touch the cube for reasons I can't work out and when I did this cold aching pain entered my arm and cold fear engulfed my body.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      Assuming I'm on the right track with the platonic solids, I have a theory on how the game Dungeons and Dragons got such an evil reputation. It's all because of the dice. Which contain all of the platonic solids.

      I remember the first time I saw [email protected] dice, how the almost felt magical. They reminded me of something I couldn't quite put my finger on at the time.

      It appears these dreams are fairly common, and I'd be willing to bet most people have had these dreams as children. The majority just don't remember, and even if you do it's hard to make sense of.

      My theory is those dice rolling around awoke some unsettling memories in some people, and they branded the game evil as a result.
      ...Damn, gotta give you props for that one. Not many people can make a connection like that.

      I've had dreams with the exact same feelings and overall overwhelming horror. Though, only a few involved the platonic solids. I do however remember several voids and very, very evil/demented dreams accompanied with the same feeling. Most of these dreams usually show me strange things about myself or the world, or something else entirely. These are not normal dreams for me by any means. Even if the platonic solids are not present, the dream seems to take on a "distant" quality. The best way I can describe it is a alien reality surrounded by a infinite void (though this "alien reality" always gives me Deja Vu). Instead of the infinite vastness of my normal dreams. In these dreams something always seems wrong, of extreme importance, or a impending sense of "happening"(?). The horror always accompanies this strange, self created "alien reality", and never, ever my normal dreams (which is how I distinguish the two).

      Ex. I once came accross a mirror in a void that seemed to reflect my personality, or 'true self'. It was like looking at who I am as a whole (very difficult to describe), I was somehow able to see my personality and the nature of who I am. It was distressing to see myself inhuman, yet more at ease. Upon awakening I nearly vomitted... I don't really know how to put the emotional effect of this dream into words. But after some of these dreams it feels like part of me is missing, almost like I was who I was suppose to be in the dream, and who I am in reality is a hollow disguise of my true self.

      I think i've only experienced The Grinds in the Timaeus dreams. Though that unmistakeable feeling that you've all described isn't bound to those dreams for me... I think it's time to stop ignoring my brain, I have been for far to long... if any of you can make sense of that...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grexxis View Post
      The horror always accompanies this strange, self created "alien reality", and never, ever my normal dreams (which is how I distinguish the two).
      I know what you mean by is being "alien" Not little green men, but just nothing there that you can relate to. The familiar dimensions of space and time are... not there? It's very disturbing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Grexxis View Post
      ...Damn, gotta give you props for that one. Not many people can make a connection like that.
      Well if you like that one, you're gonna love this...

      Anyone remember the Hellraiser movies. Unleashing hell from a cube, a very chistian concept. And of course if you flatten a cube you get a cross! Gotta wonder where the concept for that movie came from.



      Actually, I'm turning up a bunch of stuff on boxes like those.

      "It is said that LeMarchand created close to 300 of his puzzle boxes before his disappearance in 1811. Among his works, the "Lament Configuration" being the most widely recognized by scholars of the occult. His own disappearance steeped in mystery, a blood coated room and a single lament box, in the last place he was known to reside. A fitting end to the man whose work brought the disappearance of hundreds? Or the rebirth of evil into a completely different realm?"
      http://www.toymakerstudio.com/ancient.htm

      Based on a true story? No, it's from a clive barker novel. I should have known that. Cool boxes anyways.
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