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      What an interesting phenomenon. I am reading this thread with the objective eyes of an outsider. I have never had dreams like this. The closest I can come would be the opposite of what you describe: a shape spinning fast, and shrinking. This occured frequently during the years before puberty. I doubt it's related, because there was never accompanying terror or fever, but at times there was dizziness and annoyance.

      But it does interest me. I wonder why they occur. Why geometric shapes? Why fear and fever? We have many acceptable theories on the psychological and physiological purposes of dreams, but this baffles me.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Abra View Post
      Why geometric shapes?
      Since you've never had dreams like that yourself, the pictures on this site are the closest thing I could find to what I was seeing visually.
      http://193.49.43.3/dif/3D-crystals/index.html

      It's a site that shows the 3D Atomic Structures of inorganic materials. The similarities there may offer a clue. But for a no nonsense scientific site, absolutely everything about those picture screams sacred geometry. You could replace all the scientific text easily with an intro to sacred geometry without messing up the layout of the pages.

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      Why fear and fever?
      It could be simple fear of the unknown. But I've read several accounts of people interacting with what they call energies at a different frequency, that feels alien, sickening, and terrifying.

      Alexander the Great died of fever... I can't help but wonder what he saw as he died.
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      Cusp, you seem like the kinda guy that's read Flatland by Edwin Abbott Abbott. Maybe there is a 4D being trying to show you the truth

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      I haven't read it, but I've been meaning to. I was reading some scientific texts were they were using the Flatland as an example of something. Definitely sounds like something I'd like.

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      Oh, you should read it. Because it's so old the copyright has worn out and you can download it free from Google Books. I read it about a week ago, now visiting it is one of my top lucid priorities.

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      I was researching this subject again tonight. I came across some mathematician named Ramanujan who would get his formulas from dreams.
      I need to take a deeper look into that.

      But continuing that line of research, I came across some guy who claims to have been shown how tesseracts (Hypercubes) work in dreams. He then posted a link to a clip from the Flatlands movie.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUu6zrdlUxI

      Stinking synchronicity.

      Also an animation of some Dr. Quantum guy in the flatlands.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWyTxCsIXE4

      Definitely going to read that book this week.
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      I think I may have finally found something that explains why children would dream of the platonic solids.

      I'm not going to attempt to explain or paraphrase it just yet, as it's a very difficult read (maybe it's just the beer I'm drinking), but it does seem to offer an explanation of why this might occur.

      http://www.rwgrayprojects.com/synerg...0.html#100.010

      It's from the book Synergetics: Explorations in the geometry of thinking.

      I'm going to need some time to digest that.
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      Bring this topic back to the top since I just recently posted a topic in which The Cusp referred me to here.

      btw, thanks! Glad to see there are others have the same experiences as I do.

      Anyway, here is the quote from my post:

      "For me, this only happens when I am sick with a high fever. Its probably happened 4-5 times in which I've recalled.

      I go to sleep and then I wake up. I wake up to this horrible feeling that I have to finish a TASK that I know is IMPOSSIBLE... but yet, I have no idea what the task is. I just have the feeling in my body that I have to do something... (i dont know what) but something that is VERY VERY VERY IMPOSSIBLE.

      I know it sounds crazy, but thats the best way I can explain it. It usually last for about 5 minutes, but if I'm really sick it can last for a lot longer.. say, 15 mins.

      Sometimes when this happens I see weird shapes. I can't remember is I'm seeing it while sleeping or right after I wake up. Usually its simple square shapes or something of that nature.

      Does anybody know what this is?!"


      Basically I want to know now if any of you guys have a sense of a task you need to complete? You dont know the task is, but you know it is utterly impossible. Can anybody relate?

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      I haven't read this entire thread, but I've had dreams like that as a kid too, also when I had a fever.
      Mine involved feelings of something huge in something tiny... like an elephant squeezed onto a pinhead.

      Disturbing as hell. Literally.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Placebo View Post
      I haven't read this entire thread, but I've had dreams like that as a kid too, also when I had a fever.
      Mine involved feelings of something huge in something tiny... like an elephant squeezed onto a pinhead.

      Disturbing as hell. Literally.
      Very good description. I know exactly what you mean.

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      wow. i thought i was so weird when i was little. i had three reocurring dreams that haunt me to this day. one i used to have before a bad storm. like a blizzard, hurricane, tornado warning. you name it. i'd have this crazyyyyyyy and i mean CRAZY dream the night before. when i finally put two and two together, i stopped having the dream o.o

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      I go to sleep and then I wake up. I wake up to this horrible feeling that I have to finish a TASK that I know is IMPOSSIBLE... but yet, I have no idea what the task is. I just have the feeling in my body that I have to do something... (i dont know what) but something that is VERY VERY VERY IMPOSSIBLE.
      That's pretty close to what I used to experience when I was younger. I had to do something but I couldn't and I always screwed it up and at the end of the dream the world ended and there was this feeling of panic, fear and terror all rolled up into a huge terrifying ball. I'm not sure if this is a recurring platonic solids dream but it was horrible when I was young. I don't have it now though.
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      Sounds similar to my huge elephant on a pinhead analogy, but less abstract.
      There seems to be a common denominator to it
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      Quote Originally Posted by Placebo View Post
      I haven't read this entire thread, but I've had dreams like that as a kid too, also when I had a fever.
      Mine involved feelings of something huge in something tiny... like an elephant squeezed onto a pinhead.

      Disturbing as hell. Literally.
      That's exactly what my fever dreams were like!

      Also images like a very thin wire attached to a very thick cable.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kiza View Post
      That's pretty close to what I used to experience when I was younger. I had to do something but I couldn't and I always screwed it up and at the end of the dream the world ended and there was this feeling of panic, fear and terror all rolled up into a huge terrifying ball. I'm not sure if this is a recurring platonic solids dream but it was horrible when I was young. I don't have it now though.
      I'm 20 now, and if i had to guess I had the dream all of about 4 times. I just recently had one after I got some teeth pulled out and got really sick afterwards.

      When it happens, I go around looking for help because I'm so scared. When I was younger I would walk up to my parent's room.. JUST ABOUT TO KNOCK, to tell them i'm freaking out but then i come back in to reality and go back to bed.

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      Bump!!!!!

      Hate me for bumping if you will, but this is still the biggest non general topic in this section, and my interest in the subject hasn't waned in the least.

      I always love to hear from anyone who has experienced something similar.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      Time to make an official intro for this thread, as it didn't start off coherently after the split. I've named this type of dream the Timaes, after a play written by Plato

      "The young Timaeus, stricken by fever, discovers the platonic solids and elementals in a fantastical journey."
      **SPLIT THREAD***
      I've had several dreams that I can't describe, they are just too "alien".

      Dreams where I'm aware of energy, moving, interacting with it or manipulating it. There is no up or down, no distance, yet it's still a coherent frame of existance. I think these ones stem from learning to remember dreams, and being able to latch on to that lingering feeling a dream leaves when you wake up, and follow it back to rember.

      And other ones, i can't even begin to describe, there were shapes, I'm pretty sure they were the platonic solids. There was either a deafening vibrational noise or a thundering silence, and a feeling of movement, but so agonizingly slow. The slowness was awful, felt like your soul being ripped out.
      Hmmm...strangely enough I don't remember if I've ever had any dreams like this...

      Although, I remember, one day, it was very cold outside, and I dreamt I was a Jedi, in real-life I love StarWars, but this dream was a nightmare, I remember Kenobi in the dream a lot, I was in the Death Star a lot, and there was this insect sound throughout the dream, it was terrifying. I remember waking up a lot throughout the dream but as much as I wanted to I could not get out of bed. In the morning I woke up and it turned out that there was a flying insect hovering around my bed. Every StarWars dream I've had, before then and after then, has always been somewhat of a nightmare.

      Wait...I think I did! I am beginning to remember having these dreams when I was younger...If anyone has beaten Perfect Dark it's sort of like the intro-screensaver. Mostly abstract, but darker colors, mostly triangular shapes travelling through space...
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      I had something very similar when I was a child and then again as a teen. Sometimes they happened when I was awake.

      For me it felt like a giant spinning cylinder that got closer and closer. It felt as if it was ripping out my soul. Like I was slowly going insane. Absolutely terrifying. Even now, years later I get chills thinking about it.
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      When I have a fever I get something similar except without the shapes.

      I feel this horrible sense of everything being agonizingly slow. I feel like I am in an uncomfortable position but I can't fix it. I feel disembodied and as if I have been folded and twisted.

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      I had something like this recently, I'm talking two weeks ago... It was the weirdest thing ever, I've experienced many pyschoactives, but it wasn't quite that, I'll explain better. I was very sick, I had a fever, and overall felt like crap, I just thought I wasn't getting enough oxygen, and it was dumb of me to be working anyway. Okay, anyway, I was walking down the hall at work, it came on me suddenly and I felt as if I was going to faint. I felt half awake and half asleep. I felt as if the walls were closing in on me in every direction. Every movement I made was a horribly slow echo. In my sight of vision the walls, ceiling and floor all closed in in a perfect square squeezing out everything in my sight, I leaned against the wall and everything went grey and I had the horrible echo of some sort of something in my head and whole body. I don't know how to explain it, i can recall it quite well though. I didn't really think of it then but it did have some shapes related to it, but not visually, not something that I could define, or see... it was more almost like the vibrations echoing off of my surroundings, and thoughts giving them shape. That's a really odd and vague description, but it's the best I got.

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      Strange... I've had an expirence similar to these but different. I was being operated on and they had to hook me up to laughing gas, except there is nothing funny about that stuff cause I definitely wasn't laughing. I didn't see any shapes persay, but I was feeling like I was stuck in an hour glass, and the sand was taking me down with it... I was spiraling and I could hear sounds like tinkling shards of glass falling against each other. I woke up three hours later than they expected and I felt as if I was gonna wake up from a dream any second and find my self buried up to my waist in sand. I could attribute this to the laughing gas and I think I might, but I still felt like I was being hunted by something and that the damn surgeons were in on it... lol! But now that i think on it ,it is kinda funny yet scarier than hell at the same time.
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      -Leave you terrified upon waking, and it still gives you goosebumps to this day just to think about it. Wake with cold sweats, much like a fever.

      -There is a feeling of awfull SLOWNESS, which is just horrifing. Feels like you soul being ripped out, or just sheer insanity.
      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      There was either a deafening vibrational noise or a thundering silence, and a feeling of movement, but so agonizingly slow. The slowness was awful, felt like your soul being ripped out.
      Wow... I didn't know that other people have experienced this kind of thing. In my childhood I had an absolutely terrifying recurring nightmare where I found myself walking towards my bathroom mirror in near darkness (I had a very dim night-light next to my sink). No platonic solids, though.

      Anyway, in these nightmares (which were exceptionally vivid) I was always creeping toward the mirror at an extremely slow pace... it would take something like ten minutes or longer for me to reach the counter from only a few feet away... and the whole time all I could hear was the blood pumping in my ears and a... well, a horrible, evil ringing sound that pierced me to the soul. It felt like there was an invisible force constricting me and compelling me to move forward. These nightmares always ended with me standing only inches away from the dark bathroom mirror, staring at my dim reflection in absolutely paralyzing horror. I could never take my eyes off of it.

      And another thing: these nightmares were physically painful. Every time I had one it felt like I had no air in my lungs, and yet I was unable to inhale. It was like getting the wind knocked out of me and never recovering. I felt like my life was slowly draining away. I felt like I was dying. It's one of the most horrible and sickening feelings that I have ever experienced.

      Fortunately, this recurring nightmare only happened around five times, but it still baffles me that they didn't cause me some kind of emotional trauma. I mean seriously, these nightmares are, to this day, the scariest, most disturbing things that I have ever experienced. EVER.

      They all happened around ten years ago, but I remember them so well because they were the last nightmares I ever had! Woohoo!

      Oh, and I think I might have been sick at the time...
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      The only dreams I've ever had with shapes like this happened in one night. It was like 9000 hour long dream. I was disembodied and just existing in this world of shifting and morphing cube/3D (platonic I suppose) rectangles. It was really unpleasent and hurt my brain to look at so I woke myself up. As soon as I closed my (literally, that instant) the vision of horror continued, except now I felt as if I was shifting/morphing with them.

      My existence was on one of these objects which kept rising and falling give me a sense of falling and shooting up while I was completely disoriented already. I kept waking myself up to get it to stop but every time I closed my eyes it was waiting for me. Now and then the shapes would stop what they were doing, but they'd start up worse then before moments later.

      These weren't accompanied by any kind of sickness or fever. The only fever dreams I've had were quite lucid, they were just complete nonsense. The dream would be like a normal dream, with things happening, except they made less sense than normal, but then it would basically start over (except for the one that featured my dad's priest from wow and what was supposed to be battlefield 2142, that one was just really long). I would wake up, look at something, and as soon as I closed my eyes, whatever I had looked at would be incorporated into the dream.

      Oh oh, now that I remember, one of the later dreams I had involved ribbons (they were my fingers, only gone mad and turned into...well ribbons) and they kept making physically impossible motions and the like, and they eventually turned into a shape that I can't even begin to describe. Then it would start over. I hate fever dreams.

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      I`m so surprised so many has had these dreams also!
      When I was about 9-11 I had a serious fever and i dreamt I was at a chess board sort of. I remember seeing the pieces on the board was so increadibly HUGE and moving at a terribly slow speed and it was just too huge to be moving that slow. It was just terrible, and I couldn`t get away from the objects because they were so HUGE. Also it was this terrifying experience of seeing something that huge moving, it was almost impossible to grasp. For people who haven`t had this experience; pricture if you could be able to see the entire universe (the whole known universe) into an object. Moving towards you. It`s terrifying.
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      Quote Originally Posted by JustSoSick View Post
      I`m so surprised so many has had these dreams also!
      When I was about 9-11 I had a serious fever and i dreamt I was at a chess board sort of. I remember seeing the pieces on the board was so increadibly HUGE and moving at a terribly slow speed and it was just too huge to be moving that slow. It was just terrible, and I couldn`t get away from the objects because they were so HUGE. Also it was this terrifying experience of seeing something that huge moving, it was almost impossible to grasp. For people who haven`t had this experience; pricture if you could be able to see the entire universe (the whole known universe) into an object. Moving towards you. It`s terrifying.
      I like that description!

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