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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      I would not think the same way today, in the way I have expressed above. And there is no reason to mix contexts, this merely brings more suffering and confusion.
      Suffering and confusion? Impossible, everything is perfect. The uuuuuniverse is peeeeerfect.

      And I see you didn't think for a single second about your beliefs. Well done! If stubbornness was a competition, you won the prize!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      ^ truth.

      You are all mediocre and ordinary and will achieve no great deeds and are cosmologically completely unimportant. Sorry.

      Also, somebody ban the complete raving cock that is Foreverlucid, please? I don't think they're going to fit in well here.
      I am comforted by the fact that you don't have the power to ban people on this site. Your particular breed of censorship assaults my sensibilities like no other. You can't even mark a point at which you disagree with a person to want to ban them, and instead simply want them out because they don't fit in socially to your little clique.

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      Since when have I ever tried to ban somebody because I've disagreed with them?

      Don't lie please.

      I was simply making the point that FL is a yelling, insulting, spamming and pointless member.

      Let's all let rapists sleep in our houses; discriminating against those who don't fit in socially to our little clique is naughty. :0

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Suffering and confusion? Impossible, everything is perfect. The uuuuuniverse is peeeeerfect.
      Well, I hope you have realized this.

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      lol u guise!

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      Quote Originally Posted by really View Post
      Well, I hope you have realized this.
      No no, I hope starving children in Africa realized this!
      “What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      No no, I hope starving children in Africa realized this!
      You're no different to them, in the sense of awakened or unawakened. I'm assuming you're not in poverty, and that you're grateful for that also.

      We will all return home eventually, it is inevitable. No conditions or favorites.

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      Quote Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID View Post
      "Some of it may have evolved. However, there's no doubt most of it is intentional. When you go in again into the history books and you realize just how long big meetings, world meetings in a sense have been held comprising of the wealthy families and their control over their countries. Mainly these families even in Europe are all related to each other, regardless of the countries they live in. They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."

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      Go back to your cave, troll.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Seismosaur View Post
      Go back to your cave, troll.

      Plato wrote The Allegory of the Cave using the Socratic Method, a dialog between a teacher and student. It is taken from a larger work entitled the Republic. Here is a very, very brief summary:

      Suppose that there is a group of people who have lived their entire lives trapped in a cave lit by a large fire behind them. Chained in place, these people can see nothing but shadows projected on a wall in front of them. They cannot truly comprehend what they see, since they are prevented from grasping its true source and nature.

      Now suppose that one of these human beings manages to break the chains, climb through the passage, and escape the cave. With eyes accustomed only to the dim light of the cave, this individual will at first be blinded by the brightness of the world. But after some time and effort, he will become able to appreciate the beauty of the world.

      Finally, suppose that this escapee returns to the cave, trying to persuade the others that there is another, better, real world than the one in the cave. They are unlikely to be impressed by his pleas, especially since, having travelled to the bright surface world, he is now clumsy in the dim cave.

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      Quote Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID View Post
      Plato wrote The Allegory of the Cave using the Socratic Method, a dialog between a teacher and student. It is taken from a larger work entitled the Republic. Here is a very, very brief summary:

      Suppose that there is a group of people who have lived their entire lives trapped in a cave lit by a large fire behind them. Chained in place, these people can see nothing but shadows projected on a wall in front of them. They cannot truly comprehend what they see, since they are prevented from grasping its true source and nature.

      Now suppose that one of these human beings manages to break the chains, climb through the passage, and escape the cave. With eyes accustomed only to the dim light of the cave, this individual will at first be blinded by the brightness of the world. But after some time and effort, he will become able to appreciate the beauty of the world.

      Finally, suppose that this escapee returns to the cave, trying to persuade the others that there is another, better, real world than the one in the cave. They are unlikely to be impressed by his pleas, especially since, having travelled to the bright surface world, he is now clumsy in the dim cave.
      So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.
      “What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume

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      Just what do you think this league of all powerful fat cats is plotting? How would it change your life, even if you found concrete evidence that this is true?

      You do know that you are already not in control of your life? You already have a ruling government that is out of your control, even without this nonsense.

      The new world order conspiracy is rediculous. Not because it is impossible, but because it is meaningless. There is no point to it. A bunch of people having secret meetings trying to make the world a better place? Ooh, scary. Those same people are already having public meetings to try and make the world a better place.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.


      Wow, what were you reading? I think you need to visit your optometrist, ASAP

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      Those same people are already having public meetings to try and make the world a better place.


      Baaaawaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaahaaaaaaaaa! As bugs would say, "What a Maroon!!"

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post


      Do you really think I'm as clueless as to what wikpedia is all about? Do you actually believe what that disinfo site has to say?



      See Who's Editing Wikipedia - Diebold, the CIA, a Campaign

      By John Borland 08.14.07

      CalTech graduate student Virgil Griffith built a search tool that traces IP addresses of those who make Wikipedia changes.
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      On November 17th, 2005, an anonymous Wikipedia user deleted 15 paragraphs from an article on e-voting machine-vendor Diebold, excising an entire section critical of the company's machines. While anonymous, such changes typically leave behind digital fingerprints offering hints about the contributor, such as the location of the computer used to make the edits.

      In this case, the changes came from an IP address reserved for the corporate offices of Diebold itself. And it is far from an isolated case. A new data-mining service launched Monday traces millions of Wikipedia entries to their corporate sources, and for the first time puts comprehensive data behind longstanding suspicions of manipulation, which until now have surfaced only piecemeal in investigations of specific allegations.

      Wikipedia Scanner -- the brainchild of Cal Tech computation and neural-systems graduate student Virgil Griffith -- offers users a searchable database that ties millions of anonymous Wikipedia edits to organizations where those edits apparently originated, by cross-referencing the edits with data on who owns the associated block of internet IP addresses.

      Inspired by news last year that Congress members' offices had been editing their own entries, Griffith says he got curious, and wanted to know whether big companies and other organizations were doing things in a similarly self-interested vein.

      "Everything's better if you do it on a huge scale, and automate it," he says with a grin.

      This database is possible thanks to a combination of Wikipedia policies and (mostly) publicly available information.

      The online encyclopedia allows anyone to make edits, but keeps detailed logs of all these changes. Users who are logged in are tracked only by their user name, but anonymous changes leave a public record of their IP address.


      Share Your Sleuthing!

      Cornered any companies polishing up their Wikipedia entries? Spotted any government spooks rewriting history? Try Virgil Griffith's Wikipedia Scanner yourself, then submit your finds and vote on other readers' discoveries here.

      The organization also allows downloads of the complete Wikipedia, including records of all these changes.

      Griffith thus downloaded the entire encyclopedia, isolating the XML-based records of anonymous changes and IP addresses. He then correlated those IP addresses with public net-address lookup services such as ARIN, as well as private domain-name data provided by IP2Location.com.

      The result: A database of 34.4 million edits, performed by 2.6 million organizations or individuals ranging from the CIA to Microsoft to Congressional offices, now linked to the edits they or someone at their organization's net address has made.

      Some of this appears to be transparently self-interested, either adding positive, press release-like material to entries, or deleting whole swaths of critical material.

      Voting-machine company Diebold provides a good example of the latter, with someone at the company's IP address apparently deleting long paragraphs detailing the security industry's concerns over the integrity of their voting machines, and information about the company's CEO's fund-raising for President Bush.

      The text, deleted in November 2005, was quickly restored by another Wikipedia contributor, who advised the anonymous editor, "Please stop removing content from Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism."
      A Diebold Election Systems spokesman said he'd look into the matter but could not comment by press time.

      Wal-Mart has a series of relatively small changes in 2005 that that burnish the company's image on its own entry while often leaving criticism in, changing a line that its wages are less than other retail stores to a note that it pays nearly double the minimum wage, for example. Another leaves activist criticism on community impact intact, while citing a "definitive" study showing Wal-Mart raised the total number of jobs in a community.


      Helllooo!!! Present moment reality to Robot_Butler!!! Holy frick, wake the freak up!!

      Long sighhhhhh. Better yet, just go back to sleep!!

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      So, what you are saying is, your paranoia is making you suspicious of the wikipedia definition of paranoia?

      I think you need to get out of the house a little more. Go see how the world really works. Don't just read about it on misinformation websites.

      I think most NWO theoris are mostly deus ex machina. People who do not have a firm understanding on world history look for a simple explanation to it. Their ignorance makes them incapable of understanding the whole context that created an event, so they jump to a simple and impossible solution. There must be a secret group of people with an evil agenda who are causing all bad events to occur.

      This is similar to the creationist arguement against evolution. Their ignorance makes evolution seem too complicated for them to personally understand, so they come up with a simpler solution. There must be an all powerful being who is directing it all.

      This is just human nature. We create a model to simplify and try to understand things. In both cases, a little education goes a long way. A little research into history or biology will help you form a realistic model of what makes things tick.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot_Butler View Post
      So, what you are saying is, your paranoia is making you suspicious of the wikipedia definition of paranoia?

      I think you need to get out of the house a little more. Go see how the world really works. Don't just read about it on misinformation websites.

      I think most NWO theoris are mostly deus ex machina. People who do not have a firm understanding on world history look for a simple explanation to it. Their ignorance makes them incapable of understanding the whole context that created an event, so they jump to a simple and impossible solution. There must be a secret group of people with an evil agenda who are causing all bad events to occur.

      This is similar to the creationist arguement against evolution. Their ignorance makes evolution seem too complicated for them to personally understand, so they come up with a simpler solution. There must be an all powerful being who is directing it all.

      This is just human nature. We create a model to simplify and try to understand things. In both cases, a little education goes a long way. A little research into history or biology will help you form a realistic model of what makes things tick.

      Ah, yeah, okay!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      So wait, what Plato meant that the cave was actually your asshole, and the fire in it was actually a big black penis? Now it makes sense.
      Don't dwell in these forums...

      The many people who are unaware of the energies surrounding them, often dwell in internet forums longer than it is healthy.

      What they don't recognize is, how much negative energy resides here.

      Most people in today's internet forums express their negative energies in posts, which is now becoming very obvious too in these Lucid Dreaming Forums.

      If you look at what kind of threads get the most posts, you will find that these threads are often those who carry nonsensical matter that is often heavily debated. The outcome is pure negativity with not even a result.

      Simply by reading these posts, people need to understand that they are picking up the negative energy which was projected into the text by their respective authors. In other words, if you read a thread including it's dozens of comments you consume a total energetic chaos and even worse the fact that most of the comments by now, are of a negative nature.


      This is what people need to realize, therefore stay aware from argumentatons and confrontations in the internet. Avoid reading unnecessary comments and stop dealing with people of a lesser understanding than your own. People should agree to disagree, rather than falling to the energetic traps set all over the internet.


      Ciao For Now!!

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      AHAHA. Way to post the same response to 2 different things in 2 different threads. And it's even better cause both are about penisses. AHAHAA. "negative energy" is what you make of it. If you take peoples insulsts and negative comments seriously, than yeah these forums can be bad, but who really gives that much of a fuck.

      I'm starting to enjoy your stupidity man. It gives the atheists and then zen fools on this website a common enemy. Like richard nixon or something.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed View Post
      Maddox, while hilarious, is not the best source for arguing your points. Thinking that New World Conspiracies are bullshit is exactly what the conspirators would want you to think, no? While I think that these New World Conspiracies hold truth, they are probably over exaggerated.
      maddox speaks the truth. Thery are about 70% bullshit. They have a lot less power than most people give credit

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      Quote Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID View Post
      "Some of it may have evolved. However, there's no doubt most of it is intentional. When you go in again into the history books and you realize just how long big meetings, world meetings in a sense have been held comprising of the wealthy families and their control over their countries. Mainly these families even in Europe are all related to each other, regardless of the countries they live in. They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."

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      Alan Watt clearly doesn't have a basic understanding of genealogy. If you go far enough back in the family trees, any two people can be related. In fact, in another thread I established a maximum number of required generations of about 37. That's the max. Any two people will probably be related much more closely than that. And if you restrict to a single ethnic group, like Western Europeans, you need only go back about 20 generations to relate any two of them. So clearly, world leaders are related to each other if you go back.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Alan Watt clearly doesn't have a basic understanding of genealogy. If you go far enough back in the family trees, any two people can be related. In fact, in another thread I established a maximum number of required generations of about 37. That's the max. Any two people will probably be related much more closely than that. And if you restrict to a single ethnic group, like Western Europeans, you need only go back about 20 generations to relate any two of them. So clearly, world leaders are related to each other if you go back.

      You clearly missed the point. It isn't about genealogy.

      "They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."


      You also have not listened to Alan Watt. Which is totally your choice. However, there is not another disseminator of real history on this planet, that can come close to Watt. Actually there is no one else who's telling the real history of mankind. Who else is telling us about the real meaning behind words of the english language. NADA!! The man speaks and shares the plain truth like no other!!! Hard truths.

      Welcome to the real planet earth.
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      Quote Originally Posted by FOREVERLUCID View Post
      You clearly missed the point. It isn't about genealogy.

      "They cornered every market including the educational market because they plan the society they want. They plan the next 100 years, 200 years. You don't keep power by leaving it to chance. You keep power by planning the future and altering the structure of society to make sure that you're always in charge of it."


      You also have not listened to Alan Watt. Which is totally your choice. However, there is not another disseminator of real history on this planet, that can come close to Watt. Actually there is no one else who's telling the real history of mankind. Who else is telling us about the real meaning behind words of the english language. NADA!! The man speaks and shares the plain truth like no other!!! Hard truths.

      Welcome to the real planet earth.
      God, does DV attract people that have something missing in their life, and thus need to think the world is a giant conspiracy? Grow the fuck up. Or go to a mental institution, or just get some prozac. Even if your crazy illuminati existed, which it doesn't, writing all-bold worked-up bullshit posts on internet fora makes you seem like a retard without a cause.
      “What a peculiar privilege has this little agitation of the brain which we call 'thought'” -Hume

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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Even if your crazy illuminati existed, which it doesn't, writing all-bold worked-up bullshit posts on internet fora makes you seem like a retard without a cause.
      Nevermind, causality is relative.

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