Finger Induced Lucid Dream (FILD)

[ravanoos]

At the method with the piano, you have to immagine the music in your mind or just to move your fingers?

[xIGSxTEMPERR]

when I wake up from my alarm and try to fild Im do tired that I forget what to do . I go to sleep at 12 and get up at 5:30. what am I doing wrong? also when I try to fild and do remember what to do I fall asleep. please help asap

[xIGSxTEMPERR]

I just woke up for a fild and I did the finger movement. I'm sleeping near my parents and they snore. lol. are you supposed to try this in total as silence? please help

[ravanoos]

apparently no one gives a sh*t anymore about this thread...

[xIGSxTEMPERR]

forreals. sh*T!!!!!!!!!

[Acey]

What if your a deep sleeper? like me because,when i had my alarm broken one of my room mates woke me up and they told ,me they had to try 28 times just to wake me up also i cant wake up in the middle of the night so what do i do?

[Acey]

when I wake up from my alarm and try to fild Im do tired that I forget what to do . I go to sleep at 12 and get up at 5:30. what am I doing wrong? also when I try to fild and do remember what to do I fall asleep. please help asap You dont do the fild imidiatly you have to wait like 10 mins or 30 mins *from what i heard sometimes it takes 10 n sometimes 30 or more* and then try it. also you need to do the fild teqneique when you feel yourself slip away into almost sleeping kinda feeling if you feel your eyelids go heavy then do it :3 - Acey

[Acey]

At the method with the piano, you have to immagine the music in your mind or just to move your fingers? you just need to clear your mind and dont think about anything,dont talk to yourself or anything,no music no saying to your self : oh i do this then i do this n the..just do the technique :3

[yermolenko]

so, i believe i may have had my first LD last night by using FILD! i usually wake up after having dreams.. so this seemed like a perfect method. tried it last night & within (what seemed like) seconds, i was in my LD. my only problem was.. i remember trying the spinning method and then doing a RC. i could control some aspects of the dream but not all. i would shout out loud for things to appear but they wouldn't. after becoming frustrated my LD faded.. any comments or suggestions? Compare a LD to an onion, onions have layers Same with LDs Except there are only about 4 layers The deeper the layer the more control you have being that layer 4 your basically God Q: how do I get to a high layer? A: depends on how well you did on your technice to get to a LD

[Matt1]

Welcome to Dreamviews! Compare a LD to an onion, onions have layers Same with LDs Except there are only about 4 layers The deeper the layer the more control you have being that layer 4 your basically God Are the four layers a rainy city, a hotel, a snow fortress, and Limbo city? For most everyone, though, lucid dreams don't have clearly defined 'layers' like Inception. Rather, there are only changes of scene. And control has a lot to do with expectation and belief.

[dlaliberte]

The FILD method sounds intriguing to me, and I plan to try it. The trick seems to be detecting when you have entered sleep, and I had a thought about how a variation of this method might help. How about tapping on the surface of your phone, with an app running that is observing your taps and noticing when you have stopped. That would mean you have slipped into a dream, and that would be a great time to prompt you with an RC, a sound, light, or a vibration, maybe after a short delay. I'm curious to see whether this would help, particularly for people who tend to miss the slipping into dreamland, or get fooled by a false awakening. Does anyone know of an app like this? Shouldn't be hard to write.

[DreamHighlander]

I just read this thread yesterday and decided to try. I woke up at 4am and started to do the "finger moves". Like a minute after, i started to sense a little vibration on my body. But then it disappeared. It was the first time, so, i have to practice. But i guess this is a good technique.

[FreeUnity]

Sounds like a really interesting technique. Do you have any tips on how to know when I'm in my REM cycle. Any tells so I can pinpoint when to wake up? And when do I do the nasal rc? Throughout the day?

[AstralMango]

Sounds like a really interesting technique. Do you have any tips on how to know when I'm in my REM cycle. Any tells so I can pinpoint when to wake up? And when do I do the nasal rc? Throughout the day? Hi, FreeUnity. Everyone's REM cycles are different, so the only person that can find yours is you. Generally REM starts after 90 minutes and will get closer and longer as you sleep. If you wake up naturally in the middle of the night, that may also help to find your cycles. Yep, you do RCs during the day (and as soon as you wake up if you want; gotta catch those pesky FAs). It works well with a mantra, and you gotta make sure you're questioning your reality. No use in doing it on autopilot; if you do that in a dream you'll probably not get lucid. Awareness is the key. Good luck.

[FreeUnity]

Hi, FreeUnity. Everyone's REM cycles are different, so the only person that can find yours is you. Generally REM starts after 90 minutes and will get closer and longer as you sleep. If you wake up naturally in the middle of the night, that may also help to find your cycles. Yep, you do RCs during the day (and as soon as you wake up if you want; gotta catch those pesky FAs). It works well with a mantra, and you gotta make sure you're questioning your reality. No use in doing it on autopilot; if you do that in a dream you'll probably not get lucid. Awareness is the key. Good luck. Thank you looking forward to the possibility of more lucid dreams.

[Xanous]

I've read mention of this a lot and I finally gave it a try a few nights ago. I thought it would offer a different experience than my usual WILD but I found it kept me way too awake. I eventually rolled over and just went into non lucid sleep due to boredom. I plan to keep at it though. I think this method shows some promise if perfected.

[PierceHerVeil]

thanks

[4datdude20]

Gonna try to do this tonight, last attempt I failed first time due to thinking ok much so decided to wait and after that I just fell asleep.

[DreamHighlander]

I found that this technique is great for meditation or for inducing a WILD. Because i'm doing this "finger flickering", my mind is concentrating on that task alone. And that puts my body in a deep relaxing state. Now, i never achieved WILD with this, but i got some vibrations and i felt deeply relaxed.

[mitten1997]

i''ll give it a try tonight...

[mimihigurashi]

Tried it this morning a few times, but every time after a minute or less of wiggling my index and middle finger I just fell asleep unconsciously. Did I not move my fingers fast/far enough to tell my brain to stay awake? Planning to give this a few more tries. But there's also the problem that my bedroom is quite bright in the morning and I have trouble falling back asleep if I stay awake longer than 2 minutes, and if I don't stay awake long enough I feel like I don't gain enough awareness. I haven't had a WILD in a long time, regardless of the techniques I tried, maybe the bright room is part of the problem if not the problem..

[goldy101]

Thank you sooo much will surely try it. ohhh thankssss

[Ajanime22]

So, after I wake up (at like 4am), I shouldn't write down my dreams?? Because I usually do. So, shoild I just wake up, "play the piano", and then enter the LD?

[JPDreeamnz]

It depends Ajanime22 I usualy (if I wake tired enough) play the piano rigtht after woke but you can write down a journal then start later, but you'll need to wait till your body get tired You can write a few key words too, this way you don't need to full awake to journal it until morning

[Tipharot]

You know I'm actually starting to wonder if general repetitive movements speed up the dream process. I've done this technique before, but I always thought they key was not moving beyond a very slight amount. The other day however, I wanted to go do WILD or WBTB, I'd gotten up, but I had restless legs from waking up at a weird time. I kept kicking my legs back and forth and like fidgeting in my bed, unable to get back to sleep. But while I was doing this, it seemed to kick me right into the vivid stage of hypnagogia where life-like scenes appear, and so I just jumped straight into one. It was the weirdest, I was in a dream, but in my body at the same time. I was not in sleep paralysis and could move my physical body, but I could also move my body inside the dream, and both felt equally real. I actually found I had to wait for a while for my actual body to paralyse itself, because otherwise my movements in the dream were causing me to move for real. I've repeated this technique since and while I didn't purposefully try and kick my legs or anything, I noticed that on a few of my successes, I was still moving about when it happened. The other thing is it works a lot faster than regular WILD, like 30-120 seconds from laying down to being in a dream. So yes, any of you who struggle with being restless when you wake up for your WBTB, try not to worry about it, if you have to fidget, make it repetitive, try and relax anyway, and focus on the black behind your eyes until images form and can be entered. IMO this kind of stuff is a gold mine for people like myself who struggle to get comfortable enough for sleep paralysis to occur.