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      ^^ I followed the link and read carefully; that does clear things up a bit.

      Though I think Mr. Pavlina's example is a bit extreme (even for his lifestyle, apparently), I Can understand what you're doing; sorry I didn't catch it before.

      That said, I'll stick to my recommendations, and offer another one: I really believe that you should try to reserve at least one period of sleep on your schedule that amounts to at least 90 minutes. Mr. Pavlina seems to have left out the restorative early stage of sleep that only happens if given time. Also, if your goal is lucid dreaming, you might consider building in a couple of longer nap periods, just to give you the opportunity to have some extended dream times.

      In any case, I still wish you luck, and hope you'll continue sharing your results!

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      Thank you Sageous; I appreciate your presence and concern. I guess I have to stick to this for some time, then I can change from the results I will be getting. Yesterday was a total failure. I found out that each time am distracted I will disobey and each time I disobey I will fail. I guess I have to remain resolute and focused. The effort will continue today. Thanks for being here...

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      Sageous! I think I have to take some of your advice. Napping for 30 minutes Instead of 20. I failed yesterday cos I was thinking what to do and what not to. From 23:00 to 6:00 or 7:00 I will nap for thirty minutes every hour. Thanks for being here.
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      I have been failing. I found out that it's easier to wake up from a twenty minutes nap than thirty minutes nap. But the good news is that I notice the alarm going off and I wake up and put it off most of the time. I wake up with the feeling of deep sleep, with the irresistible desire to sleep on. I had LD in one of my 30 minutes nap. It was some how difficult to control, cos I tried teleportation but found myself speeding up. I thought of meditation but didn't want to find myself in a void... The effort continues. Thanks for being here

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      Wow, this makes me want to attempt polyphasic sleep again. I can't with my current schedule, so props to you for going for it. You are still in a adaption period right? Maybe could think of failures more as "adapting" instead, so mentally can get through these hiccups better. I'm not sure though I had to go back to regular monophasic sleep because I couldn't keep up with the schedule and the adaption period was too hard on me.

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      I started napping by 02:00. 02:00 and 03:00 was a success 4:00, 5:00 and 06:00 I was sleep-seating after putting off my alarm. Right now I am feeling slight headache. Thanks for being here

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      I napped at 23:00. 00:00 to 6:00 was a total failure. Waking from nap 00:00 was very difficult. I woke up and was very tired, I couldn't think of anything apart from going back to o sleep. I woke up at 6:30 and felt very energetic and alive. I said to myself if only I can carry one singular thought of polyphasic adaptation that I will be able to subject and force my weak body Into sleeping polyphasicaly. Sleeping in 30 minutes. If I can hold one singular thought and stop distracting myself that I can see and observe my body passing through GAS (General adaptation syndrome). Thank you for being here

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      Nap at 23:00 was ok. But others were swift that I had no memory of struggling to wake or to remain lying down. The 30 minutes between nap was like a minute that I couldn't differentiate the alarm that is waking me up from the one that is telling me to sleep. My alarm is on 30 minutes snooze time. So each time the alarm goes off I press the snooze button. but this time my brain was too sleepy to know when to stand or sleep. To solve this problem, I have set two alarms; one is to sleep and two is to wake up. This means that I have to force my sleeping brain to reset the alarm every hour. If I can't do it, it means I will wake up every morning with sadness in my heart. Thanks for being here.

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      When my alarm went off (nap at 23:00), my brain thought of a reason to put it off. And I deed put it off without being on my feet. And I could remember soliloquising that "you will fall back asleep without knowing it" and I deed woke up and found out that it was 03:53 (4.4hours later). I guess I have to self-talk myself into waking up to my alarm to be on my feet after every 30 minutes nap.
      The self-talk goes thus: "before you switch off your alarm, wake up and be on your feet". Thank you for being here

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      Hello fellow Oneironauts;
      I have not updated you guys for the past eight days now and i said i have to do it today that i have got the opportunity. Though some of it is not my making and some is the power of the subconsciouse over the conscious. for instance; sometimes i do not notice the alarm going off. sometimes i do and i simply switch it off. and my only link to world and alarm (InnJoo Halo X Gold) was taken from me by armed robbers on my way home from work. they flogged me with machete and took my phone away. but the effort has to continue. i want to build the character of lucid dreaming and i believe polyphasing will help me do that. with these thoughts in mind i decided to take it easy, and being patient with myself i came up with this sleeping schedule;
      22:30 to 02:00 (2.5hrs Core sleep)
      02:30 to 04:00 (1.5hrs Core sleep)
      04:30 nap for 30 minutes
      05:30 nap for 30 minutes
      06:30 nap for 30 minutes (optional)
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      Hello friends; I have gotten a new phone, I have recovered from bodly pain. And now I have to continue.
      sleeping schedule;
      23:30 to 02:00 (2.5hrs Core sleep)
      02:30 to 04:00 (1.5hrs Core sleep)
      04:30 nap for 30 minutes
      05:30 nap for 30 minutes
      06:30 nap for 30 minutes (optional)
      thanks for being here.

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      Hello Guys;
      I have not been updating you guys cos I have not been doing anything. I LOST MY MOTIVATION. But I think I have gotten it back. I have been awake all day and I intend to staying awake all night...

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      I did not succeed in staying up all night and do not know when I actually went to bed. But I felt slight headache which is a sign I didn't sleep well at night. I have been awake for thirty minutes now. I returned from work at about 13:00 and watched some YouTube videos for about an hour, so I think I slept by 14:30 or there about and woke by 22:00. So I slept for 7.5hrs.
      Why I think I failed staying up all night yesterday is: I was just seating down and founded it difficult thinking about polyphasing. So no matter how difficult it is to get busy or think or pray. To stay awake, I have to get my mind and body busy. Thanks for being here

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      Hello friends; the urge to sleep when you are sleep-deprived is irresistible and seductive. So to night I am going to train my consciousness to take control, not to sleep. I will be seating on a stool throughout the night and I will update you in the morning before I leave for work.
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      I failed at 04:44. I was not totally unconscious when laid down but I had not enough strength to check what time is it. The urge to go to bed came to me severally. Sorry I didn't keep track of time, I was so tired!!!

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      Hello friends
      Am gonna SPAMAYL starting from 23:00 to 05:00. I will nap for twenty minutes every one hour. I will update you in the morning. Thanks for being here...

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      Hello friends;
      Naps 23:00, 00:00, 01:00, 02:00, 03:00 were successful but I over slept at 04:00. I woke up but didn't get out of bed. So I will say I slept from 04:00 to 06:30 i.e 2.5 hours. I had a dream in 04:00 nap. Effort continues today by 22:00 to 05:00 tomorrow morning and I will be perfect this time around. Thanks for being here...

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      Hello friends:
      My first nap at 23:00 was successful. It deep and with a dream.. Will update u in the morning

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      I have failed again! My failures always remind me that the one and only way to stay awake after each and every nap is to be on my feet and walk around irrespective of how difficult it may appear to be... I tried making this post in the morning but couldn't because of bad network

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      Hello friends! This thread is long overdue and it has to come to a reasonable and successful conclusion. With this in mind I decided to SPAMAYL today to update you in three days, that is Thursday. Thanks for coming by and see you on Thursday

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      Jeremiah 33:3 Says and i quote: ‘Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.’
      i call on you Lord God, the creator of the universe, grant me my heart desires.
      i have experienced difficulty in trying so hard to adapt to polyphasic sleep. and i came up with a self-talk that will serve as a reminder, a motivation and as a thought vibrating trigger that will re motivate me and put and keep me on course to soldier on.
      "And the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils, the breath of life and the man became a living a living being. Gen 2:7. Notice your breathing and violently jump onto your feet before putting off your alarm. My body is the enemy. the spirit is willing but the body is weak. Matt 26:41. those who love God will serve him in truth and in spirit. John 4:24. Be on your feet and walk your body either sick or healthy"
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      I didn't know why, but I was drawn to this thread just now.

      I believe God just told me, through you, to get off my ass and onto my feet!
      Be on your feet and walk your body either sick or healthy"
      I've been sitting in bed 24/7 for months now since I took a bad turn. I've been meaning to start walking about more and exercise more, even though I don't need to. It's getting to the point that I've stopped caring. God is telling me right now, to start caring more about it. And honestly I completely agree with him.

      I loved your whole post there, but that bit really rung out, as if it was directed exactly at me.

      Thank you! And good luck with the polyphasic, I know you can do it!
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      i napped at 00:00, 02:00, i over slept at 04:00. after sleeping for twenty minutes on the floor i founded it difficult being on my feet. i was in zoomby mode till 05:31 when i reset my alarm to nap at 06:00. i napped at this time and over slept. i noticed my alarm but could stand on my feet, but i finally woke at 06:30 cos i had to go to work. at work; my eyes shorts few times and i could feel slight headache at my fore head. on returning from work at 12:45, i slept around 13:17 woke up to my alarm but couldn't stand on my feet i remained on the floor and slept on until 15:55 or there about when i finally woke up. i had a dream at this time where i short someone to death, his bleeding was like a running tap water and he talking and dying at the same time. i had dream at 04:00 but cant remember it cos i didn't write it down, i was too sleepy to do that.
      i will nap at 00:00, 02:00, 04:00, 06:00 and 08:00 after which i will go to work and i will update you when i return from work at 21:30 tomorrow.
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      It seems someone somewhere is remote-controlling me; on Tuesday at 21:00 or there about i laid on the floor knowing fully well that i will fall asleep, i remained there and the outcome was obvious; yesterday again same thing happened; i laid down and i fell asleep. this is very serious that i have to take serious action to overcome, i have to attack it with all my might and that's what am gonna do today.
      I woke up by 06:30 with the intention of staying awake for 24 hours before napping. So i will start napping by 07:00 tomorrow(Friday) for the whole day. i will nap for twenty minutes after every two hours during the night and four hours during the day. i will update you by 07:20 tomorrow after my first nap. thanks for being here...

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      Nice to see you trying this again, Epsika.

      I'm sure I said this before, but I think it bears repeating: You really, really, really, really do not need to torture yourself in order to practice polyphasic sleep, no matter what someone on the internet might tell you.

      You do not need to stay up for 24 hours before changing your sleep schedule; I can't even comprehend the thinking behind that nonsense. Do you really believe that a day without sleep will erase a lifetime of sleep patterns (not to mention centuries of genetic memory)?

      20-minute naps are extremely short, and if you manage to maintain a pattern of these you will very likely either have no dreams at all, as your body struggles to squeeze in some restorative NREM time, or else you will, oddly, never quite fall asleep at all, and find yourself locked in a brief moment of hypnogogia before forcing yourself (with an alarm, I assume) to be awake again; you very likely won't have enough time to have enjoyable LD's in 20 minutes either (which I assume was your original goal). I suggest that you make those naps longer, (45 min or more), and --at least until you've made a comfortable adjustment to a polyphasic sleep pattern -- that you give yourself a good 4-hour stretch of sleep at night in addition to all those short naps. Later, after you've gained that comfort and your body has made its adjustments, you might experiment with shorter sleep periods ... but doing so right out of the chutes is probably not helpful at all, and might even be harmful. I suggest that you allow yourself to gradually change your sleep schedule, to gently massage your sleep cycles into a new form, rather than pounding them with a sledgehammer.

      I also notice that you've been at this for several years, overall; hopefully that should be notice enough that maybe you're approaching the activity from the wrong direction.

      I've probably said this before as well, but if you are comfortable with your new sleep patterns, and perhaps can enjoy your attempt to adjust your sleep cycles, you will very likely have a much easier time adopting a polyphasic sleep schedule. If you torture yourself by forcing yourself to stay awake for long stretches and find yourself lying on the floor unable to avoid sleep, I'm guessing things aren't all that pleasant for you, and a steady polyphasic sleep schedule is still out of reach.

      tl;dr: I suggest that you do yourself a favor, Epsika, and lose the link to the page you showed me long ago (and all the rest of them), and start your own schedule at your own pace. If you make your switch to polyphasic sleep gradual, comfortable, and maybe even fun, you might see results much more quickly than you are seeing them now, and you won't experience nearly as much frustration or moments of uncontrollable sleep.
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