Thread: Does a high IQ affect lucidity / dreaming?

Originally Posted by Kyte

This is probably a dumb question but where can you take a REAL i.q test? Whenever I look on google I get the usual online test bullshit.

Go to a certified psychologist or IQ tester - they administer the real tests.

Online tests are complete crap. I took one and got around a 100, then I took another and got like a 200. So retarded. XD

I took mine in school when I was younger... don't quite remember why or how...


OH! I just took one online, it said 126, but I walked away for a second, so the test was tainted.

A higher IQ seems to lead to quicker realization of your dream. I become lucid nearly immediately upon entering a dream. Dream recall on the other hand is based on how important/special the dream was and how good your natural memory is. However dream recal does strengthen day to day memeory. As to IQ tests contact MENSA, that who I took my test from and it's very real.

Originally Posted by hyperangel13

Go to a certified psychologist

Online tests are complete crap. I took one and got around a 100, then I took another and got like a 200. So retarded. XD

A psychologist can give an IQ test but they tend to be very simple and only deal with functional spatial awareness. But MENSA is who you want to be able to say they gave you the test. You can't really write an equation to measure IQ based on simple tests. The human element is the real method to score an IQ test. Oh and to the guy who scored a 126 but walked away for a second so it's not valid, don't worry nothing you take on the internet means anything. but 126 would make you slightly above average. I don't like that we measure IQ because it divides people, granted primarily smart from stupid, but smart people get competetive about their IQ. So I never give mine.

Well, IQ test aren't about knowledge, they are about how fast your brain computes things. I know a lot of things, I mean a lot, but that doesn't mean I will do good on any IQ test, If I learned all those things from heavy repetition, my mind might not compute things fast enough to get agood score on a real IQ test.

Originally Posted by Kyte

This is probably a dumb question but where can you take a REAL i.q test? Whenever I look on google I get the usual online test bullshit.

Mensa look em up. I'm a member of both Mensa and the 999 club. the 999 club are for people who score above 99.9 percent of the population. My IQ is 176. That was an average from 3 tests one oral, one physical, and one written. On physical and written I score over 180, but since I'm a visual learner my oral exam was low if I threw it out, which I can't, my IQ would have been 185.

Originally Posted by Out of the Blue

Aren't IQ tests losing effectiveness as a tool? I know there's much debate over them.

Regardless, to score high I'm sure you're intelligent, but I don't think it would have any major effects on Lucid Dreaming.

Good luck though!

I read somewhere that IQ tests are mostly designed for discovering people who fall at the farther ends of the IQ spectrum. It's not really designed to find out how smart any given person is, but rather to see if somebody is exceptionally different than the average.

Originally Posted by Digital.Totem

I don't like that we measure IQ because it divides people, granted primarily smart from stupid, but smart people get competetive about their IQ. So I never give mine.

I agree. I took the Mensa test and I'm glad they didn't give me a score. I knew that it would drive me nuts when I heard a score higher than mine, so just knowing that my IQ is 132 or higher is good enough for me.

Originally Posted by Digital.Totem

A psychologist can give an IQ test but they tend to be very simple and only deal with functional spatial awareness. But MENSA is who you want to be able to say they gave you the test. You can't really write an equation to measure IQ based on simple tests. The human element is the real method to score an IQ test. Oh and to the guy who scored a 126 but walked away for a second so it's not valid, don't worry nothing you take on the internet means anything. but 126 would make you slightly above average. I don't like that we measure IQ because it divides people, granted primarily smart from stupid, but smart people get competetive about their IQ. So I never give mine.

sorry to be annoying but 126 is more than slightly above average. it is almost 2 standard deviations to the right from the mean. so if im doing the math right, that is almost higher than 97.5% of the population. (I say almost because i am assuming your score is 130 so i don't need a calculator.) admitingly it is lower than those who are stating their IQs here because the only people who know their IQ are those who did exceptionally well. if mine said i was average, i would forget it pretty quickly, but if it said i was a genius, i would frame it on my wall (which backs up rpgedgar's theory). but alas i am too lazy to take an IQ test...

by the way, you take AP stats at 16? nice. im 18 and i am taking it. but senioritis is making me do less than well.

Originally Posted by Out of the Blue

Aren't IQ tests losing effectiveness as a tool? I know there's much debate over them.

Regardless, to score high I'm sure you're intelligent, but I don't think it would have any major effects on Lucid Dreaming.

Good luck though!

they are losing effectiveness mainly due to their extreme western bias as well as other reasons. but i think they work well enough for this thread at least.

Yeah, I'm a freak of nature. I'm a year too young for my grade (11th grade), and I took it last year. I'm advanced in math and spanish as well...but that's beside the point here.

If IQ is the processing speed of your brain (Much like the speed of a computer hard drive), then I wonder how it would affect a normal person's dreaming ability. I'd think there'd be better recall...

Originally Posted by darkhawk918

My IQ is 134 and my girlfriend's is 149 or something like that. But she can remember things MUCH better than me. She has like a perfect memory. I keep a dream journal by my bed but she doesn't have to because she remembers them all the time (pretty much every night). Though she has woke me up at about 4am and told me to write her dream in my journal because she's pushy like that. But she has remembered them when she woke up the next day. We both get lucid at least 5 times a month each.

However, my brother's IQ is only 80 something I think but he has explained dreams to me that he described as "odd" but he described them as if he was perfectly lucid. He also tells me that it happens quite a few times a month - maybe he was just born with "da power"

according to what you're saying, you have a "very superior intelligence," your brother is dull and you're girlfriend is a genius (according to the IQ scale)

IQ does not affect your dreaming. Now will you eggheads stop bragging about your IQ?

@ The Cusp: It doesn't? Not even with recall or "realness" or anything?

=_= But you're right; the thread has deteriorated into a bragging contest...

Hell, my IQ is 666, where do I fit in?

IQ is Logic and Memory, Lucid Dreaming is visualization and Creativity for the most part. Its more of a rightbrain thing. (I'm nearly central when it comes to hemisphere dominance, I have a semi-high IQ AND creative ability)

I think that my iq makes it v difficult to sleep at night. But my dreams are very vivid, sometimes I can remember them photographly. If I'm lucky, video. At least for a few seconds.

To the person who said their iq was 176, I give you this: WOW . That's like, genius. Wow again.

I don't consider myself especially smart. I took a legit IQ test and here's my results with some comments from the shrink:

"My stupid psychological/parenting class gave me an IQ of 105 with a Performance Score of 107 and Full Scale of 107

I don't know what the break down means, exactly, but I'm still somewhat impressed by my "low" score because:

Verbal
Vocabulary= 14
Simiarities= 14
Arithmetic= 6 [!!]
Digital Span= 7 [!!]
Information= 10
Comprehension= 15
Letter-Number Sequencing= (7) [? !!]

Performance
Picture Completion= 14
Digit Symbol= 15
Block Design= 6 [!!]
Matrix Reasoning= 9
Picture Arrangement= 12

"The client's remote recall was observed to be mildly deficient... Her concentration was observed to be mildly deficient, as noted by her scaled score of 7 on the Digit Span subtest of the WAIS-III. The client displayed the ability to reason at the abstract level. She displayed motor tension during the assessment. The client's overall motor functioning tended to me mildly retarded, and she presented as a person with a slow tempo... Overall, the results of today's assessment indicate that the client typically functions within the average range of intelligence, although the verbal aspects of her intelligence are more appropriate to a high average range of intelligence."

With my math scores so low, I was impressed that my verbal scores pulled my total up as much as it did"

"Mildly retarded" and "slow tempo" still makes me angry to read lol
But, it does take me an exceptionally long time to figure out even mundane things.

I can LD if I REALLY try. But my dreams are always intense and very vivid. I have an intense dream life and my recall is outstanding most of the time. So, I doubt IQ is directly connected.
Sometimes my subconscious mind will figure out things before my rational mind does. During such times, dream themes symbolically make the connections so I can logically piece things together. But my grasp of the abstract isn't too great, so the symbolism is usually more ??? concrete than abstract.
Maybe IQ plays in in a round about sort of way.

I think lucidity as a whole is more about awareness than actual IQ.
But in general dreams, the content may be slightly different than those belonging to someone of a lower IQ. But then again, content also changes if the person happens to be really creative or artistic, as well as realistic. People with little to imagination tend to usually have fairly straight, normal dreams, like shopping in a mall.

Just my two cents.

Kraftwerk, don't bump old threads.

Originally Posted by Flashdance

Kraftwerk, don't bump old threads.

I have to agree with this but we've also had a recent flood of old threads being bumped recently

As for IQ, don't think it affects LD at all. Possibly helps with recall since that's linked with memory and practice, but, that's it