giving the everyman a go...

[Neo Neo]

Because of getting 5 hours of sleep or less anyway, and because I've got music things, finals, and what not, I'll be starting a version of the everyman that fits my schedule as close as it can. I've been interested in trying it for a while, and seeing as though I'm used to getting small amounts of sleep anyway I'm just going to go for it and hope my body adjusts. It would also be awesome if it works because I could really use this extra time as well. As of now I'm playing it by ear, since I've decided to start it today, but I will post my plan for it later tonight hopefully. I won't have time to document it as others have on here, but I will attempt to write entries on how its going and if it turns out working for me. Anyway, here I go...

[Neo Neo]

Earlier this morning I had slept from 6:00am to 9:00am, then couldnt take a nap until 4:45pm to 5:05pm. After my last post I got REALLY hungry, and I ended up getting more to eat than I usually do. And I just scarfed it down so fast I don't know if this has to do with not sleeping much earlier today, or waking up from the nap, but I just remember that I wasn't that hungry before the nap and I was going to wait until 8pm to eat.

[Robot_Butler]

I'm interested to see how this works for you. I used to be on a polyphasic sleep schedule. I had the most amazing dreams, and got so much done in a day. Hard to do with my current life schedule, or I would go back to it in an instant.

[Neo Neo]

Ok, so I made my schedule, and it changes every day a little bit because of classes and stuff, but for now its what I'm going to start with. Here's what I have for monday and tuesday: Monday: 5:00am-8:00am 1:00pm-1:20pm 6:30pm-6:40pm 12:00am-12:20am Tuesday: 4:00am-7:00am 12:00pm-12:20pm 5:30pm-5:50pm 11:00pm-11:20pm I know 5 hours apart may seem kinda long, but I get more equal spacing between naps (and other obligations) if its 5 hours apart versus 4. My next nap will be at 10:30 tonight, then after that I start my schedule. I'm actually excited about this, so hopefully it works out.

[Neo Neo]

Tried to take my 10:30 nap, ended up just lying down and trying some breathing relaxation exercises. It was kinda hot in my dorm room, at least near my bed area, so my heart rate was increased, and started to feel jittery, still feeling slightly jittery but its not anything major. Got some orange juice (I had lots of choices of puree' drinks but I had this sudden craving for orange juice ) and I'm feeling a little better. Still feeling kinda hot though. About to stay up until 4am for my core sleep. But I don't feel any more tired than I did, I actually feel a little bit more awake even though I don't think I fell asleep. Those 20 minutes seemed pretty long too, kinda interesting. And sounds have been slightly louder (probably due to tiredness). Anyway, will report back if anything else interesting happens.

[Neo Neo]

Successfully took my noon nap earlier, feeling wide awake now and normal. At first I felt a little drowsy after waking up, but now I feel like I had a night's worth of sleep. I wasn't as hungry this time after that nap. Between 10:45pm and 4am yesterday I started getting pretty tired after 2am and I couldn't concentrate to do homework or anything so I just ended up staying on youtube and the internet until I went back to my room about 3:40 and got to sleep at 4am. I imagine tonight after my third nap it will be the hardest... but this is when I'll end up getting extra waking hours, so hopefully my body will adjust quickly. So far today, I have been feeling normal and am not suffering from any tiredness or drowsiness yet.

[Neo Neo]

Getting into my second day of everyman... feeling tired now, but am still able to keep myself awake. (its not uncontrollable) I don't want to over-stress my mind or body in these beginning adjustments to everyman, so I'm basically going to relax for a few hours until my core sleep. One thing I have noticed, is that I feel like I have so much more time to get things done; it just seems that since I am not worrying about "getting enough sleep", time is not flying by as fast as it usually does. And being able to not stress out about lack of sleep has been nice as well. But like I was saying, I'm feeling tired and am not physically or mentally at my best because of switching up my sleep pattern like this... I went to practice music again earlier and I could concentrate fairly well but my reaction time and dexterity was noticeably decreased. So, at the moment I can't maximize the use of this extra time, that is without risking unnecessary harm or stress on myself. I'm trying to figure out how I can stay awake to 5 without falling asleep

[SpaceTime]

Keep up the Good Work Dude!

[Neo Neo]

Yeah, I'm trying, yesterday was harder, and this morning I accidentally overslept past my alarm by three hours I'm going to try to take my naps today disregarding the fact that I slept 6 hours instead of 3. I didn't really get a consistent nap in around the 12am hour yesterday, and it was hard staying awake until I hit 4am, then I felt significantly more awake. Then I went to bed at 5am. I did actually wake up at 8am, but didn't get right up out of bed, and then the next thing I knew, I looked at my clock again and it was 11am My phone alarms didn't go off either, at least I don't think they did. (I think the fact that I left my phone on vibrate has something to do with that) So, I've learned I need to wake right up despite how tired, in order to get used to this.

[Neo Neo]

I was able to basically wake up on time, and so I'll see how today goes with the "correct" amount of core sleep, unlike yesterday when I overslept. I won't be able to take my 2nd nap today, so I'll see how this goes. I'm thinking either some laundry or attempting something productive; feeling tired but its definitely bearable, at least for now. Really hungry though. Anyway, will report back tonight on how this day's been.

[Neo Neo]

I don't want to jinx myself, but I think I'm adjusting really well to everyman, although its only been a couple days or so. But, I've noticed a couple things that are different, since I've been basically on a monophasic (sleeping several hours at once, vs polyphasic which shortens them and splits them up) sleep cycle my entire life. First of all, I feel like my sense of the "day" has changed. Its hard to explain, but I just feel like I have so much more time, like TONS more open time. Usually I'd be stressing out about trying to get sleep, and time would seem to pass by very quickly. But now trying this out, I'm not longer feeling stressed about getting sleep, and I feel like my mind is figuring out that I'm changing into this schedule. You know how you normally feel when awake, and how you can pretty much tell how much more you can stay awake? Well, its like my mind/body feels all this extra time ahead of me; I just know that I have so much more "awake" hours. Second, my perception has been slightly different. Sometimes I'll notice things I havn't noticed before, and colors seem more vivid for some reason... don't know why it is, but trees, sunlight, all the green outside, things seem more vivid. Sometimes I also feel like sounds are louder than normal, or that my hearing is somehow more focused... I just generally feel different on everyman than on monophasic sleep. Not bad at all, but I can definitely tell there's been a change from before. I'm actually enjoying this feeling, at least when I'm not tired like I was this morning. Its like my mind knows it can stay awake longer or something, and I think that is changing my circadian rhythm (most likely) and causing me to loose my sense of a day. It just feels like I can sense all this extra time that I didnt have access to before bc I would be asleep or too tired to do anything. Oh, and I've also noticed that the ability to focus on something is somewhat easier, and that it has more of a effect. Because I missed my nap earlier, I thought I would be really tired or crash, but something I read up on is that you should just ignore the fact that you even lost a nap at all, and don't try to make it up. So I've been telling myself that the missed nap doesn't matter and that it doesn't have a affect on me. A downside to this is that I'm not sure how to organize my homework around everyman... and I'm also surprised because I'm not having a difficult time adjusting to this. Its just so weird that I'm not experiencing the zombie-ness that occurs with other people, and have not felt sleep deprived, at last not yet. I do know that I wasn't getting "enough" sleep before, and perhaps everyman works better for me? Only time will tell with this I suppose. I'm not feeling tired now at all, so I'll have to wait and see how I'm doing after my last nap of the day later. I also overslept yesterday, so that could be a reason why I'm so awake today, but anyway, I'll have to see when tomorrow gets here.

[Neo Neo]

I hope that this is the right place to put this thread and everything... Anyway, oh-my-god I just had the most incredibly vivid dreams all year... but it was also a major fail on my part. I set alarms at night that said "am" instead of "pm". My body wanted to sleep more maybe? It was the exact time I wanted to take up, except "am". So I was out for about 8 1/2 hours total in which I had the most vivid dreams all year. To other people trying everyman, does any of this stuff ever happen to you? But yeah, and ALL of the dreams I had last night had people I know in them, which never happens for me . Oh, and there was a part in my last dream that I was on campus near our fountain area that had billboards up of people doing the everyone technique, and it had user's names from this forum on them. But my log in name wasn't up there, and I felt left out lol. Perhaps its because I've been a noob this past couple days with accidentally sleeping in. But yeah, so I think I went straight to REM all right because that was just insane how vivid those dreams were compared to how I normally dream when I get lots of sleep. Alright... so I'm awake when I'm supposed to be right now, so I'll take my naps as usual and hope I don't have to restart because of this morning. Woke up at 8am on time at least. But geez, setting alarms correctly and waking up immediately after sleep are *really important* when adjusting to everyman. And probably uberman as well, and I'd say even more so. So I lost my extra time at night and now I have to do everything today, but the good thing is that (for me personally) everyman has been EXTREMELY forgiving, in that making mistakes isn't killing me or turning me into a zombie. I've read that everyman is more forgiving and adaptable than uberman, and I can verify that based on my experiences so far. Argh, I wish scientists would actually do experiments with this, there's so much that could be done if uberman and everyman would looked at as valid sleep cycles instead of refuting them.

[BigFan]

I gotta say everyman sounds so interesting, but, not sure if it'll work in my case since I have a full-time job where I have to work for 8hr straight before heading home

[Neo Neo]

Yeah, somehow my schedule allows for it, otherwise I wouldn't be trying it. Anyway, ugh!!! The guy in the room next to me had some loud tv on so I changed my position and reset my alarms, and somehow didnt turn two back on... and somehow didnt wake up to any of them. Gah, I'm so frustrated right now! I can't wait till next semester when I'll be away from this noise... I really needed to get some things done too and now I'm too tired. This has to be the biggest drawback so far, is oversleeping or missing alarms.

[Neo Neo]

Feeling awake, more so than when I'm on monophasic... but that just might be me personally. Had some vivid dreams (In this city with some freaky dark storm clouds spinning like funnel clouds do ) but, was able to take my naps fine and if all goes well I'll be up at night like I was supposed to last night

[Neo Neo]

Slept in a bit more than I intended, but only a hour and 45 minutes or so, which isn't bad compared to oversleeping 3+ hours. Anyway, got in my afternoon nap, feeling fine, although I've noticed that my feet have been hurting a tiny bit when walking or standing around, I think because of being awake more and not giving "enough time" for them to rest and recover. Its not anything major or preventing me from things, and I'm guessing that this should gradually go away once my body adjusts to everyman completely. I havn't been exercising either, and I do plan on starting to, so I'll see how things are once that gets going. Other than that, feeling awake and normal now, about to head out for class and stuff.

[Neo Neo]

Had to skip my early evening nap earlier, but got in my night one and am feeling awake. I got something to drink , a orange honey passion 'wellness' drink. It was vitamin C 250%, iron 2%, calcium 2%, and zinc 25% daily values. Its a odwalla brand too. And also had a protein bar by odwalla too. It doesn't taste the best, but its something to snack on. Anyway, just felt like sharing that in case anyone was interested. Feeling wide-awake actually (11:37pm right now) and will get to bed around 4am. I know I'm stating the obvious saying this, but I think that strictly adhering to your schedule helps so much when adjusting to everyman (and probably all polyphasic sleep schedules) and that sticking to it in the start is important. Geez, I really feel like I am adjusted to it even though I've messed it up during the past few days, and I've read that people don't get used to it as quickly as I am. Think it could mean that my sleep cycle was messed up to begin with, and giving it this workable schedule is working out? I suppose I'll find out in time... I'm almost a week into this, and if I stay consistent for two weeks, then I think I can confidently say that it works out for me. But its crazy though, because the adjustment period for everyman is supposed to be a month-ish. And I'm getting used to it in a matter of days

[Neo Neo]

Exercising AND missing a nap just killed me yesterday, I was zombified this morning and had to get coffee, but I've gone the longest without coffee up to this point (a few days). So another thing, I can't miss naps especially when jogging or more physically active than usual. Again, I'm not sure if this happens with everybody on a type of everyman schedule, but I've found its what happens with me. Going to proceed as usual today and hopefully my tiredness has past. Also thinking of exercising every other day, or maybe twice a week. I've only got about a couple weeks left (until the 2nd week of may) of freely trying everyman, because it will get difficult when I'm back at home. Argh, I just got so tired that I was literally unable to stay awake last nite, and I'm fairly certain it had to do with the fact that I jogged a tiny bit. With the exception of yesterday, I havn't been exercising, so it seems like I'm either not in good shape or my body needed to rest itself. Probably a combination of both, but I won't have too much time to experiment with how exercising effects it, as I'm just trying to adjust to being able to handle staying awake for these extra hours.

[shana47]

Hi guys Because the Bible states in Ephesians 2:8-9 " For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast. The play shows some very odd forms of theology, mainly the fact that Good Deeds alone can you take with you to Heaven; which we, as Christians, believe to be totally false. " As is clearly seen in these verses of Scripture it is not Good Deeds that get you into Heaven, but it is the divine gift of a loving and merciful God. The play makes the strange point that Everyman can only take with him from this world the things he has given others, and not what he has received. The play was obviously written by a person that did not believe in these verses or who had never read them, otherwise he would not have made such a large part of the play showing how Good Deeds is the only help you will find in the end. Deeds and Knowledge have not fled from him, and he learns that Good Deeds will go with him into the grave to give account of Everyman to God. I am glad hearted indeed to know that my salvation lies not in my giving a reckoning of my good deeds, but rather on the knowledge that I have accepted Christ as my Lord and Savior from the pits of hell. Thanks

[Neo Neo]

Thats interesting, I didn't know there was a play referred to as Everyman, now its given me something else to look into about this. I agree with your standpoint, but since this isn't the religious section I won't really go into it here, but feel free to PM me about it. Right now I'm just viewing everyman just as a alternate sleep cycle, and also somewhat of a lifestyle choice, and think that everyman (as a sleep cycle) shouldn't affect someone's walk with God other than sleeping during different parts of the day. I'm no sleep cycle expert, but I'd say monophasic sleep is better for you than polyphasic. Although, I'm pretty convinced that polyphasic sleep is adaptable for anyone with enough discipline to do it. Ok, so I felt like I "needed" to get sleep.. so I did, and I've thrown myself off the everyman schedule (3 hr core plus three 20 minute naps) so now I'm going to try to get myself back on it... *sigh*. Now I understand why there should be almost no deviation from your schedule once you start it, otherwise your body/mind starts to go back to monophasic sleep. Or you start to feel like you need "more" sleep, and getting more messes you up because you're used to getting less. I got more sleep this morning, at least 10 hours , more like 12 I think... and I felt really tired in the evening. 9:00pm felt like 11pm . I dont know, I will sleep for long periods of time and feel fine, and other times I will feel wiped out. Still trying to figure out what kind of sleep pattern fits me. And I want to reiterate that I started changing my sleep cycle now mainly for school obligations (ah! not enough time! ), otherwise I would be sticking to monophasic sleep right now But, for next semester I'd definitely change to everyman if I could

[Emkinator]

I'm no sleep cycle expert, but I'd say monophasic sleep is better for you than polyphasic. Newborn child's have mostly a polyphasic sleeping cycle, because they nap a lot in the day and wake up in the night. I think that monophasic sleep is mostly taught nowadays, because almost everyone sleeps that way in our society. Monophasic sleep would have been better for cavemen (because many predators hunt at night), but nowadays without natural predators i think we don't have that defined as strongly in our genes, so polyphasic sleep becomes more likely and it's still natural. If you adjust to it, it will be atleast just as good.

[Neo Neo]

I feel like I've unintentionally went back to monophasic sleep (turned off my alarm in my sleep and slept through it) and since I can't risk sleeping through exams next week, I won't be trying to adjust back to it. Thats interesting though, I've heard that monophasic was better for cavemen, forget where I read it though... and yeah, maybe next semester I can adjust to it. Even though I just had a tiny bit of polyphasic sleep, I thought it was interesting and it would work well with me if I could get a schedule that works with it.

[Emkinator]

Thats interesting though, I've heard that monophasic was better for cavemen, forget where I read it though... I know where you read it... In my comment above

[Neo Neo]

lol, but seriously it was on another polyphasic website. Forget which one though, but yeah, back to monophasic sleep though. Felt like a zombie the past couple days though. Its just weird that I feel more tired on a monophasic sleep pattern than when I was attempting everyman.

[Emkinator]

I'm interested in trying a polyphasic sleep pattern myself when i get the time and space (My roommate would be annoyed by the random alarms at night ). Plus with school it would be impossible to nap at the right times, so later. I found your posts interesting and helpful, so thanks!