Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

Originally Posted by Clairvoyance

Alright, here's my plan for tonight:
1. Read Instructions again
2. Drink lots of water and go to the bathroom before sleep.
3. Don't move a muscle when waking up

As for keeping up a good attitude, I do not want to be biased in favour of any of these methods working. In a lot of threads like this, people who try the methods and fail say things like "Well, at least I had good dream recall". This, I believe, is an effect created by believing too much in the success of a method. Of course, this isn't the only thing that can go wrong with being biased towards the success of a method, either.

At the same time, I will try my best to not be biased towards the failure of this. I want to be neutral towards the chances of this working out for someone like me.

if you are not biased in favour of these methods working, then you are probably going to go into it with too much of a skeptical frame of mind to acheive anything. there is nothing wrong with convincing yourself that something will work. the placebo effect is one of the most powerful methods of inducing lucid dreams imo

don't concentrate on testing the methods, concentrate on the result

I tried again this morning. I woke up without opening my eyes or moving. Next, I tried the 'phantom wiggling' and not much happened. Then I 'strained my brain' and got some vibrations after about 10 seconds but no lucid dream.

I am curious about the imagery technique because that seems to be the technique that most people have success with. On all of my attempts for this technique, I've never seen any imagery 'behind my eyelids'. Will it appear if I will it to be there or imagine a scene I want to be in?? Some help from people with experience with this would be nice.

Originally Posted by Jay12341235

I tried again this morning. I woke up without opening my eyes or moving. Next, I tried the 'phantom wiggling' and not much happened. Then I 'strained my brain' and got some vibrations after about 10 seconds but no lucid dream.

I am curious about the imagery technique because that seems to be the technique that most people have success with. On all of my attempts for this technique, I've never seen any imagery 'behind my eyelids'. Will it appear if I will it to be there or imagine a scene I want to be in?? Some help from people with experience with this would be nice.

I did not see images like on a screen I just woke up and turned over in my bed, closed my eyes and stared into the black. Suddenly I just felt a swift in my consciousnes and I saw a room, it felt the same as looking through my real eyes, but then I was just standing there, the experience did not feel like the "real" world, but it felt very vivid.
But as I said I woke up too early.. maybe have had work if I stablized it I don't know.
Hope that helped =) The trick might be not to expect something extra ordinary to happen instead just trust the technique and if nothing appears during that attempt maybe it does on the next.
If nothing happens after 3 seconds, do another indirect technique.
My cycle is: Observing imagages, phantom wiggling, listening in then I do this 3 times more.

Hey, I just want to add that Mr. Raduga has a facebook page. You can go to it from the site his ebook is on. He seems to answer or address any and all issues or questions that people post on his page. He told me to definitely practice the techniques as much as possible for best results, but no more that 3 or 4 times, I guess just for starting out.

But he is the source. If there is something that you are really stumped on or just can't quite get right, I highly recommend stopping by his FB page and dropping him a line!

~Steph ☼

yep he has a forum too and replied to my questions within a day which was a nice surprise. sorry if the mods do not like other forums being mentioned..

^ cool, thanks, I'll check that out too then.... I'm off to read more of the book, I keep getting wrapped up here and then no time to read... good luck all, keep trying, but not too hard. I think eventually we have to reach a point where we just say Ef it and just let go completely, what happens...happens. Maybe it will just come easier too us then, I know sometimes I'm trying to hard because I just want it to happen so bad, but in the end that just makes it worse.

It would really help if I could find and Android alarm app that shuts off or snoozes automatically without having to press anything after like, 1 minute or sumthin.....

Ok this attempt did not succed =/ but I succeded in another thing
I used the Thinkrightnow program someone in this forum wrote about and I affirmed with subliminal messages that I would notice my micro awakenings and not move and have closed eyes, and it worked! I woke up and noticed that my eyes were closed and I did not move. I observed some image but nothing special appeared, then I phantom wiggled but I moved my physical muscles to much and the atttempt ended, I tried to listen in anyway and heard a different noise than I usually do but it faded away.
But now I can notice my micro awakenings!

Next night I will try the cell phone technique that is said to work 30-50 % of the time

I'm really excited about this, because I read about 50 pages from the book yesterday and went to sleep reminding myself that when I wake up I will not move or open my eyes, and that I will remember to do indirect techniques.

The first time I woke up, I moved and opened my eyes, it was around 2:30 AM. I reminded myself not to move/open eyes when waking up.
So the second time I woke up, I didnt move or open my eyes, I was pretty excited that It worked so fast. I then tried the "phantom wiggling" but It didnt seem to work, or I probably could have done it wrong. Then I tried the "straining the brain" technique, but I didnt concentrate on it enough, and I fell asleep.
I'm really happy that I learned to wake up without moving, so fast, I thought it would take atleast 3-4 nights to learn it.


And somehow this feels like the right thing for me, because I remember numerous busy mornings, when I have just stayed in bed and after a while I have started to put my clothes on etc. But then realised I havent left bed yet....

Originally Posted by MasterMind

Ok this attempt did not succed =/ but I succeded in another thing
I used the Thinkrightnow program someone in this forum wrote about and I affirmed with subliminal messages that I would notice my micro awakenings and not move and have closed eyes, and it worked! I woke up and noticed that my eyes were closed and I did not move. I observed some image but nothing special appeared, then I phantom wiggled but I moved my physical muscles to much and the atttempt ended, I tried to listen in anyway and heard a different noise than I usually do but it faded away.
But now I can notice my micro awakenings!
Next night I will try the cell phone technique that is said to work 30-50 % of the time

yeah i still have alot of trouble with not moving when i wake up, but im getting there, and definately getting to be far more conscious of the sp vibrations when waking.its all good practice

Originally Posted by whiterain

yeah i still have alot of trouble with not moving when i wake up, but im getting there, and definately getting to be far more conscious of the sp vibrations when waking.its all good practice

Same here! At least during the work week, because of my damn alarm If I had an automatic alarm on my phone that would shut itself off after 30 seconds - 1 minute and then snooze again in like 20 min, then I would have no problem with the moving thing. But I have no way around this when I have to get up and go to work and need to have my alarm go off or else I don't wake up.

Good luck all, I'm still trying to read the book in between getting real sleep, working, and trying to interpret dreams.

So,

Sweet dreams, sleep tight, don't let the bed bugs bite!

No luck this time either :/
I woke up and moved a little and imagined an iphone in my hand, but I think I fell asleep unconsciously. My dream were very vivid though.
I don't know what I am doing wrong now I just have to read and figure that out.

Edit: Sometimes I'm just so stupid... On every attempt that I wrote that I succed I did not move at all upon awakening.
On every attempt that I failed I wrote that I moved (too much). That's the misstake ^^

i was so out of it this morning while trying these. i did indirect techs in the morning, and found myself getting into a dream, yet carrying on with the techniques after i was in it.... very odd. anyone else?

Ok. So i've read half of the book and I have some questions.
I want to Lucid Dream and not to OBE and I dont really understand the difference between those two now. I got confused. Can someone explain?
And if I understood correctly, you can't enter your dream, unless you perform "Observing Images", which might not even occur. So what do you do if images are not coming? Will "Straining The brain" work?
Author said that while trying to become LUCID you should concentrate on one technique, but "mcwillis" used few of them.

EDIT: I found my answer in author's forum. He thinks that LD/AP/OBE are the same things.

Spending the afternoon reading the book and taking a nap... will let all know how it turns out, hopefully better since I won't have to use an alarm!!!

Originally Posted by Purebred

Ok. So i've read half of the book and I have some questions.
I want to Lucid Dream and not to OBE and I dont really understand the difference between those two now. I got confused. Can someone explain?
And if I understood correctly, you can't enter your dream, unless you perform "Observing Images", which might not even occur. So what do you do if images are not coming? Will "Straining The brain" work?
Author said that while trying to become LUCID you should concentrate on one technique, but "mcwillis" used few of them.

EDIT: I found my answer in author's forum. He thinks that LD/AP/OBE are the same things.

i think the basic idea is to cycle through different visualisation techniques, but when you find one starting to work, focus on that until you get to a lucid. i still need to read the whole thing but i hate reading for ages on a screen

Okay, so nap time is over.

I know that Breathing Concentration is always going to be one of my Indirects because I have done that without even thinking about it for as long as I can remember and while I use Breathing Concentration, this in turn ends up producing images in the black void so once I actually take notice to them I switch to Observing Images (I think this is a useful one for me as I have always been a visual learner and I have a photographic memory), for my third I'm not consistent on this. I'm thinking I am going to use Straining Brain in the future if I have a conscious awakening with vibrations already present, and if not, switch to it if they arise.

I know I know, Directs are frowned upon for beginners... confession, before my nap, due to the degree of fatigue I had, I knew I would be able to reach a state of sleep quicker than prior to bed, so I wanted to give it a shot, just to see how controlled my ability would be to stay focused on popping back into a semi conscious state from a subconscious. (Hah! I was a bit sleepier than I realized) So as I was drifting, using Breathing Concentration first which then automatically brings images to me automatically after a few minutes, I started seeing a computer screen (initially when I began the switch to Observing Images I new I was still on the conscious level) and someone was teaching me how to input numbers. I was sitting off to the side of the screen and this person typed something into the top and this is where I new I was at least in a semi conscious state because I was observing me, I actually leaned towards my right so that I could see the screen from the teacher's POV, and as my body did that in this state it felt more cloudy like my existances do in my dreams. But, as I had shifted in that moment to see the screen, and this is why I say semi conscious, somewhere in my physical mind I was like "oooo I'm close to a dream!" and I could actually feel my body or my aura or my consciousness getting "pulled back" (thats how it felt) into a different more outward state of awareness, one that was more conscious (and was a little disappointed, because I think I may have been close).

So with that result I think the realization of what was happening in my conscious self was too aggressive of a reaction and pulled me back out of it. I was still happy with this little result from the Direct approach, but for now I will still stick to practicing the Indirects, this was just an experiment of my control and it definitely taught me not to be so aggressive in my reactions.

Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

I was also happy that I had recall on this dream from my nap, because it seemed to disappear the past 2 days, probably due in part to stress.

I tried this yesterday night. I had no problem waking up becoming aware. i used "Phantom Wiggling" instantly and it kinda worked, but because of the lack of training, while using "Wiggling" I accidently strained my arm muscle, so I jumped straight to "Observing Images", but nothing happened. I strained my brain but it was over. I cycled throu my techniques 5 times more and went to sleep.

My main mistake was my lack of Techniques training. I think that next time I will have my LD. ;D

okkk ans some of my questions..........
1) i am on page 50.......so is the author going to explain direct techniques like he explained indirect ones.......or he will just talk in theories........? in rest of the book
2) someone explain me phantom wiggling coz i dont get how to wiggle without physical muscle movement.........?
3) how do you strain your brain........?
4) how the voice in your head sounds like ( listening in technique)
does the voice sound like high pitched beep type voice.......?

Originally Posted by Kunal19

okkk ans some of my questions..........
1) i am on page 50.......so is the author going to explain direct techniques like he explained indirect ones.......or he will just talk in theories........? in rest of the book
2) someone explain me phantom wiggling coz i dont get how to wiggle without physical muscle movement.........?
3) how do you strain your brain........?
4) how the voice in your head sounds like ( listening in technique)
does the voice sound like high pitched beep type voice.......?

I can try explaining wiggling. Lay down on your bed, close your eyes and start lifting your arm. don't lift it very high, just a little. Try remembering the sensation of your arm flying up into the air and coming down. Now try to have the same sensation, but with your arm lying down on your bed. Try this for about 5 minutes and your brain will deffinetely do the work for you.

Originally Posted by Kunal19

okkk ans some of my questions..........
1) i am on page 50.......so is the author going to explain direct techniques like he explained indirect ones.......or he will just talk in theories........? in rest of the book
2) someone explain me phantom wiggling coz i dont get how to wiggle without physical muscle movement.........?
3) how do you strain your brain........?
4) how the voice in your head sounds like ( listening in technique)
does the voice sound like high pitched beep type voice.......?

1) Don't try direct techniques first he will explain it, but don't try that first!
3) Imagine that your brain is like a sponge don't concentrate on the fact that straining the brain is impossible, just imagine that it happens if you then feel any vibrations or strange sensations concentrate on that spot and then move it around in the body.
4) For me listening in sounds like this:
If I go to a quiet room and listen to any beep sounds I hear a small eco of beeps
but if I wake up during the night and all conditions is right for listening in to occur it sounds like a loud tinitus beep, like this one YouTube - LOW FREQUENCIES

Last night did now work for me either, but I think I know why. The first 2 days when I tried this techniques and I had been succesful, for some reason I changed my pillow and when I did that I didn't sleep well so I change back today and see if I notice any progress.

on waking up i used these techniques 3 times to get back into an amazing party dream i was having at my old house this morning. the visuals i focussed on where simply wherever i left the dream before, and the audio was always joe cockers with a little help from my friends. its so strange though because although i now seem to be able to get back into a dream on command, i was not lucid once despite telling my mate how i keep having dreams about this house. i guess i could chalk this up as both a deid, wid and even vid but onfortunately no l to be seen

Ok what after imagining my brain as sponge...
I mean do you imagine hands or something to strain it or you just concentrate on your brain..?

Originally Posted by Kunal19

Ok what after imagining my brain as sponge...
I mean do you imagine hands or something to strain it or you just concentrate on your brain..?

Just imagine what ever you find best, if it works it works and if nothing happends just change technique. I usually don't strain the brain because for me listening in, phantom wiggling, observing images and force falling asleep works better, but when I imagine I just try to feel that my brain is contracting and if nothing happens then I just listen in because the beeping sound is normally clear by that time.

With the cell phone technique, wants the sensation or feeling arises that it is really in your hand, and you should be able to move around it like it is real, that is just imagined right? You are not actually supposed to move your hand when you are doing this correct? Would that be sort of like a phantom wiggling thing or forced movement?