Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

still no conscious seperations for me, but i broke a bit of a dry spell and had some intense phantom wiggling this morning. it eventually put me in a really intensely vivid fear dream, but this was good because it was easy to spot the dream. i watched this one of radugas vids before bed and used the swimming, wiggling, rotating and rubbing hands techs on awakening. getting closer all the time to not moving, in fact i made it this morning but the position i woke up in was so uncomfortable that eventually i just had to move. it just seems like i only wake up because of moving, but ill do it tomorrow

good vid this

When you use swimming technique..How do you imagine it
i mean do you imagine that your room is filled with water and you are using your hands to swim..
Or you imagine yourself in a sea and swim..

Originally Posted by Kunal19

When you use swimming technique..How do you imagine it
i mean do you imagine that your room is filled with water and you are using your hands to swim..
Or you imagine yourself in a sea and swim..

When i practised I didn't think about details. When doing aggresively, you can't think if there are some water or no. xD Just freaking swim!!!
I don't have experience, but that's just what i did and it felt right when practising.

i like to just try to swim through the air. just try to feel your hands out in front of you pulling you out of your body and into the air. if you dont feel it after a few seconds move onto another visualisation

Thanks guys...
You know why i asked this question..
Because suppose if we visualize walking...How will we do it..?
We are lying on bed...Lol...So we cant imagine walking in that position...We must think about road where we can walk...
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btw last night i woke up around 5 times...But every time i moved...Damn it..
This is obvious...How can you sleep peacefully in a room where 3 people are snoring all together..

i find walkind very hard. its because you have to visualise quite a few things at the same time like balance and movement. i find balance the hardest. whenever i have had a near wild by visualising walking, i suddenly find myself locally walking around, but as soon as i do, i fall on my ass and snap straight back to my body. leave the walking until you do something easier i reckon.

well ive had 3 straight wbtb lucids in a row now. they have all been really shoddy quality compared to where i was at a few weeks ago though. at least i am back to it though. its so tricky to find that balance, or the key things that are making you lucid because there are so many factors involved. i had been reading about lucid crossroads last night, so when lucid, rather than actually go there because i wasnt that conscious, i practiced writing my name on the wall so that if i ever got there i could try writing in the guestbook. it looked like a spider had scribbled 'dremviews whiterain' on the wall, then added the a later on. i really am stupid when i havent stabilised it properly....

Just thought I would share my first-night success story with you guys because it was crazy.

This morning I had three (THREE) lucid dream experiences back to back to back using these techniques. It was so weird. I woke up, remembered to do them, and I turned to my side and seperated by imagining I was falling off my futon. The first time I seperated I didn't have vision, only a sort of awareness of items around me. I got too excited and exited the dream. I immediately seperated again without using any techniques. This time I had vision to begin with and I touched everything in my room. It was weird, it wasn't my real room, it was much larger and there was no doorway it just went straight into the hallway.

I tested my RCs even though I knew I was lucid already, my hands were super deformed and kept being deformed every time I looked at them. Also, I was able to spread my fingers more than 180 degrees. The nose pinch felt so weird. I started looking at numbers and text and it changed very frequently.

I walked down the hallway and began to fade back to reality. I tried spinning but I was already awake, so I attempted seperation again. This time I rolled off and before I hit the ground I sort of floated upwards. When I arrived in the dreamscape I couldn't see so I began touching everything that was there. I noticed my "real body" laying on the futon, which when I started touching stood up and I had to pick it up and put it back onto the futon. By the way, there's no way I could lift myself like that, so for some reason I thought this was pretty funny. The dream was already stable so I continued to walk down the hallway and down the stairs at the end of the hallway. I met my little brother on the way, and then I ended up waking up.

At this point it was already late enough and I decided to get out of bed. These techniques are ridiculously easy. I was able to just separate 3 times in a row so I didn't have much a chance to practice the techniques. It's so weird... I just kinda fell out of my futon and into this dream world.

Originally Posted by Vertebrate

Just thought I would share my first-night success story with you guys because it was crazy.

This morning I had three (THREE) lucid dream experiences back to back to back using these techniques. It was so weird. I woke up, remembered to do them, and I turned to my side and seperated by imagining I was falling off my futon. The first time I seperated I didn't have vision, only a sort of awareness of items around me. I got too excited and exited the dream. I immediately seperated again without using any techniques. This time I had vision to begin with and I touched everything in my room. It was weird, it wasn't my real room, it was much larger and there was no doorway it just went straight into the hallway.

I tested my RCs even though I knew I was lucid already, my hands were super deformed and kept being deformed every time I looked at them. Also, I was able to spread my fingers more than 180 degrees. The nose pinch felt so weird. I started looking at numbers and text and it changed very frequently.

I walked down the hallway and began to fade back to reality. I tried spinning but I was already awake, so I attempted seperation again. This time I rolled off and before I hit the ground I sort of floated upwards. When I arrived in the dreamscape I couldn't see so I began touching everything that was there. I noticed my "real body" laying on the futon, which when I started touching stood up and I had to pick it up and put it back onto the futon. By the way, there's no way I could lift myself like that, so for some reason I thought this was pretty funny. The dream was already stable so I continued to walk down the hallway and down the stairs at the end of the hallway. I met my little brother on the way, and then I ended up waking up.

At this point it was already late enough and I decided to get out of bed. These techniques are ridiculously easy. I was able to just separate 3 times in a row so I didn't have much a chance to practice the techniques. It's so weird... I just kinda fell out of my futon and into this dream world.

Congatulations, SUCCESS. But I think it was OBE ;D. Can you tell which techniques did you use?

Originally Posted by Purebred

Congatulations, SUCCESS. But I think it was OBE ;D. Can you tell which techniques did you use?

Thanks! Anyway whatever you wanna call it I was going to use phantom wiggling, swimming, and rotating. I did this for about a minute after I woke up and got nothing, then I turned to my side to fall asleep again but I felt like I could fall off my futon so I felt the sensations of falling off my futon and I achieved instant separation, and then did it again twice when I came out of the experience.

That was stranhe. You moved a lot. But I guess, it's possible ;D Now read how to deepen it.

Originally Posted by Purebred

That was stranhe. You moved a lot. But I guess, it's possible ;D Now read how to deepen it.

In one of his videos he says that while using indirect techniques if you move upon waking up you should still try, so I did.

On an off topic note, is your sig a reference to YuGiOh the abridged series?

Originally Posted by Vertebrate

In one of his videos he says that while using indirect techniques if you move upon waking up you should still try, so I did.

On an off topic note, is your sig a reference to YuGiOh the abridged series?

yes, I'er read his books and saw that video. Well, he says that you should stop trying, because of practise. i think ;D

Off topic note: Yeah, Abridge. ;D

Originally Posted by Vertebrate

Just thought I would share my first-night success story with you guys because it was crazy.

This morning I had three (THREE) lucid dream experiences back to back to back using these techniques. It was so weird. I woke up, remembered to do them, and I turned to my side and seperated by imagining I was falling off my futon. The first time I seperated I didn't have vision, only a sort of awareness of items around me. I got too excited and exited the dream. I immediately seperated again without using any techniques. This time I had vision to begin with and I touched everything in my room. It was weird, it wasn't my real room, it was much larger and there was no doorway it just went straight into the hallway.

I tested my RCs even though I knew I was lucid already, my hands were super deformed and kept being deformed every time I looked at them. Also, I was able to spread my fingers more than 180 degrees. The nose pinch felt so weird. I started looking at numbers and text and it changed very frequently.

I walked down the hallway and began to fade back to reality. I tried spinning but I was already awake, so I attempted seperation again. This time I rolled off and before I hit the ground I sort of floated upwards. When I arrived in the dreamscape I couldn't see so I began touching everything that was there. I noticed my "real body" laying on the futon, which when I started touching stood up and I had to pick it up and put it back onto the futon. By the way, there's no way I could lift myself like that, so for some reason I thought this was pretty funny. The dream was already stable so I continued to walk down the hallway and down the stairs at the end of the hallway. I met my little brother on the way, and then I ended up waking up.

At this point it was already late enough and I decided to get out of bed. These techniques are ridiculously easy. I was able to just separate 3 times in a row so I didn't have much a chance to practice the techniques. It's so weird... I just kinda fell out of my futon and into this dream world.

bro are you saying that you tried to separate just after waking and without using those indirect techniques.......?
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guys if you have noticed
the author says to try to separate first and than use tehniques...but there is one problem suppose if i try to roll out and if i moved physically.........wont it spoil our chance to have obe/ld......?
there should be a movement free exit tec......

Originally Posted by Kunal19

bro are you saying that you tried to separate just after waking and without using those indirect techniques.......?
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guys if you have noticed
the author says to try to separate first and than use tehniques...but there is one problem suppose if i try to roll out and if i moved physically.........wont it spoil our chance to have obe/ld......?
there should be a movement free exit tec......

No, read more. He tried it for 1 minute. ;D

Originally Posted by Kunal19

bro are you saying that you tried to separate just after waking and without using those indirect techniques.......?
----------
guys if you have noticed
the author says to try to separate first and than use tehniques...but there is one problem suppose if i try to roll out and if i moved physically.........wont it spoil our chance to have obe/ld......?
there should be a movement free exit tec......

If you watch closely you will see that he says "with the indirect techniques if you move some after waking up you should immediately begin technique" I don't think moving completely ruins it, I just think that if you move like I did you are taking a chance that you will not be able to get into the phase. I got lucky I guess, and the reason I started this technique was because for the past 2 years I have been able to continue sleeping almost indefinitely and slip in and out of conciousness immediately after waking from a full nights sleep, and I always remembered dreams during this time. When I saw these techniques I thought to myself that during that time I must be very very close to the phase and using these techniques I was able to take full control of the phase.

There was a time when I was very depressed, and I would lay in bed for 3 or more hours after I woke up and eventually I started falling back asleep for 15-20 minute periods and waking with very cloudy memories and feelings from dreams, I was so depressed that I figured I was just thinking too hard about things and I should try to go back to sleep. I know of one occasion when I did this for almost 7 hours before getting my sorry ass out of bed.

Originally Posted by Vertebrate

If you watch closely you will see that he says "with the indirect techniques if you move some after waking up you should immediately begin technique" I don't think moving completely ruins it, I just think that if you move like I did you are taking a chance that you will not be able to get into the phase. I got lucky I guess, and the reason I started this technique was because for the past 2 years I have been able to continue sleeping almost indefinitely and slip in and out of conciousness immediately after waking from a full nights sleep, and I always remembered dreams during this time. When I saw these techniques I thought to myself that during that time I must be very very close to the phase and using these techniques I was able to take full control of the phase.

There was a time when I was very depressed, and I would lay in bed for 3 or more hours after I woke up and eventually I started falling back asleep for 15-20 minute periods and waking with very cloudy memories and feelings from dreams, I was so depressed that I figured I was just thinking too hard about things and I should try to go back to sleep. I know of one occasion when I did this for almost 7 hours before getting my sorry ass out of bed.

I want to ask. How much sleep did you have after waking up? Or did you use an alarm and then went to sleep and only then woke up (like he describes in his book).

Originally Posted by Purebred

I want to ask. How much sleep did you have after waking up? Or did you use an alarm and then went to sleep and only then woke up (like he describes in his book).

I went to bed at about 2:00AM and I got up at 7:30AM immediately after I did this and the whole experience lasted maybe 15 minutes. I had my alarm set for 8:00AM.

No i am saying that we should immediately try to separate after waking up...May be rolling out...

Originally Posted by Kunal19

No i am saying that we should immediately try to separate after waking up...May be rolling out...

Yeah it seems effective =) This night I had a lucid dream, but I was not that aware that I wanted to be I was still my dreamy mind that just act without thinking weird state. Next night I will try to separate immediately after awakening.

here is a link to an online readable version of '.... School of Out-of-Body Travel. A Practical Guidebook | by Michael Raduga . I really hope that there is something of worth in this book as there are so many books which claim to have the best technique and the majority are useless such as lucidology.

Originally Posted by LucidPower

here is a link to an online readable version of '.... School of Out-of-Body Travel. A Practical Guidebook | by Michael Raduga . I really hope that there is something of worth in this book as there are so many books which claim to have the best technique and the majority are useless such as lucidology.

I like this book more than World Of Lucid dreaming. You must read it.

Everything works if you just believe in it enough, but these techniques works if you just try them with some motivation in a week

I have a new alarm method to increase my chances further. Instead of using the CAN-WILD method that makes my phase entry almost impossible x(
I use an alarm that wakes me up in rem (an Iphone app that registrates the movements during sleep and wakes me up in rem-sleep) then I fall asleep again with an intention to wake up consciously and if I don't (but I usually do). my chances of becoming conscious in a dream is still higher.
The name of the app is: Smart Alarm Clock: sleep cycles & noise recording, if anyone wanted to know xD

Ok, I am a bit confused. If I separate from my body, how is the experience going to be different from lets say, observing images and consciously going into a dream scenario? By separating, am I still in a lucid dream but just starting from my room?

Originally Posted by LucidReality93

Ok, I am a bit confused. If I separate from my body, how is the experience going to be different from lets say, observing images and consciously going into a dream scenario? By separating, am I still in a lucid dream but just starting from my room?

You won't always start in the room you are actually in, but there is a fairly good chance it will at least be somewhere you've slept before. If you aren't observing any images then you can probably separate. Last time I went to bed in my room and woke up in my parents' house.