Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Im not interested in OBE's either. My lucid dreams just happen as described in my experience at the start of this thread. The phantom wiggling technique that you cppied into your post says, "one momentarily finds oneself somehow in the phase". That means that you may find yourself in a lucid dream or an OBE.



I may be wrong about this but it seems from what you have said that you haven't read up to page 40 as that is where the instructions for not moving upon awakening are. If you haven't read the textbook yet I would strongly suggest not skipping through the book to page 40 as you will miss vital information that will save you from making mistakes that will arrest your progress.

First of all let me thank you for opening a thread about this. After seeing your post in "CrazyInsane's WILD Tutorial" I immediately downloaded the guide and began reading. I've been practicing and have come across an interesting fact: my most common form of 'phasing' is the movement one. I feel like I'm spinning or (as was the case last-night) swinging in a hammock. I've had this seemingly random phenomenon affect me variously throughout my life, mostly when I am about to go to sleep.
My question, however, is this: how do you keep from losing consciousness? In the instance last night, where I was swinging in an imaginary hammock, I was able to make it swing farther and farther out, but woke up later when my alarm went off. Is there a section of the book that explains this? (I do not wish to read ahead if I don't have to, as I'm only in the part about the different indirect techniques.)
Anyhow, you can imagine my excitement but it seems too tricky and I am simply of the belief that I don't understand it fully, so any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

It seems from your description that you have achieved the 'free floating state of mind' Mr. Raduga describes that is necessary for the more difficult Direct Techniques. As he vehemently opposes anyone practicing Direct Techniques until one has mastered Indirect Techniques I would suggest doing what he advises. However, you may not have to start with Indirect Techniques as it seems that you can enter the 'free floating state of mind' easily. If you want my opinion I would say it would be far better to follow his advice and try Indirect Techniques for a while, especially if you haven't had any lucids or full OBE's yet whilst experiencing the phenomena you have described. The reason why you are falling asleep is because you are experiencing this phenomena too passively.

Thanks for the thanks!

I am reading the workbook for the fourth time as I have been making mistakes and am analysing my actions to see where I am going wrong; and finding the answers! Please note it is the workbook and not the textbook. I am going to paste below an extract from the chapter entitled 'Extremely Important Advice'.

Quoting Mr. Raduga:

"If you veer off the path I have shown you, you'll be either completely depriving yourself of a rewarding experience, or at least making such an experience a very rare event. I often have to fight with one very strange aspect of human psychology: the desire to do things in one's own way in a field that one knows nothing about. I've done nearly everything I can: I've tested and described everything exactly, you can be quite sure that it will work. But then I'll go to talk with another practitioner, and it suddenly turns out that nothing is working for him. At least, that's what he says.
But once he starts to tell you what he did and how he did it, you immediately hear that he did exactly what you've told him dozens of times not to do. It turns out that he's done everything backwards. And if steps were taken in the right direction, then everything was done half-way, the wrong way, or no way, and the most fundamental elements were given no more than a passing try. Of course, it doesn't always turn out like that. It only does when someone is having problems with his practice. If there are no problems, that means that he's doing everything just as he was told.
And so, friend, I beg you to follow all of the instructions exactly. You're guaranteed to get a result. The more correctly you perform the techniques, the quicker the results will come. Some people get results during their first attempts.
But let's take a look at the most common mistake. I've already mentioned more than once here that one's practice should start only from the indirect techniques, that is techniques performed upon awakening. I've taught this phenomenon to thousands of people personally, and to a countless number through my books. I'm not saying that that's where you need to start just to have something to say. Indirect techniques are simply the easiest and most effective ones. For some reason, every second student will get some irresistible urge to buck my arguments and start from the hardest techniques: the direct ones, which are performed without accompanying sleep.
They usually tell me that direct techniques deliver more controllability. Yes, they do. And therein lies the problem. That's exactly why novices are unsuccessful with them, because beginners try to control them. In the section on direct techniques, you'll learn how they need to be performed in the opposite way - it is necessary to deliberately give up control over them and your conscious awareness for a certain period of time. And this is much more difficult than awakening and then entering the phase within a few moments.
Based on outward appearances, direct techniques seem preferable, which in and of itself draws people to them. However, indirect techniques need to be mastered first before trying anything else. Friend, such a desire will surely arise within you as well. But keep one thing in mind: indirect techniques work for everyone, while direct techniques are fraught with difficulty, even for those with much experience, let alone for a novice who has yet to learn the phenomenon from the inside out.
Starting from direct techniques is the same as walking into a weight-room for the first time in your life and trying to bench-press 500 pounds. No sane person would even think about doing that. It's simply unrealistic. It's first necessary to train for a certain period of time, which requires starting out from light weights. If the bench-press is a clear analogy, then direct techniques are a very near equivalent to those 400 pounds - lifting them would obviously be possible only after spending months working out, and require an incredible amount of strength. Yet the phase can be yours in literally a couple of days...
Yes, some people do have a predisposition for direct techniques, especially women. But whenever I talk about such predisposition, almost everyone thinks that I'm talking about them. You can forget about it. First learn what kind of phenomenon this is by performing specific actions upon awakening, and then - and only then - start experiments with direct techniques.
What's more, a lot of people may think that if they try both direct and indirect techniques simultaneously, then they will get, for example, guaranteed practice upon awakening, and sure practice with direct techniques before falling asleep. I'm afraid I'll have to disappoint you, and even warn you. You are not a bottomless well of energy and strength. If you've been exhausting yourself with direct techniques all evening, then you'll have no energy or strength left to do anything correctly or effectively upon awakening. Based on my substantial observational data, I can categorically state that such an approach decreases the probability of having a successful experience by 50 to 80 percent.
The situation is even more ridiculous when a person attempting direct techniques has already suffered a fiasco with indirect techniques due to making mistakes, after having worked on them for say several weeks. I would like to emphasize that such a fiasco is possible only in the face of major mistakes and misunderstandings. And so, having tripped up over what is easiest, the unfortunate practitioner decides to move on to direct techniques - the hardest ones. Where's the logic? Being unable to do the easiest things, do you think that you will suddenly be able to do the hardest things? Now really? It's just the other way around! If you are still unable to take your conscious awareness out of your body upon awakening, then the one thing you have left to consider is becoming conscious while dreaming - but don't even think about direct techniques.
And so don't fiddle around, put all of your effort from the beginning into actions performed upon awakening - into the universal indirect techniques.
(Sadly, even after this being emphasized so much, a significant proportion of readers will nevertheless throw these warnings out the window and begin to torture themselves with direct techniques...)

Another widespread problem is incomplete performance of the techniques. No less than 75% of practitioners who are learning using my techniques suffer from this. It's interesting to note that 75% of them do so deliberately. Friend, you'll see later on that you need not perform superhuman feats in order to achieve the phase state. As far as the indirect techniques are concerned, you just need perform a simple algorithm of actions upon awakening. Just complete everything that you are required to do in full. And perform everything just as it is described.
Let's observe a few examples of incomplete performance of the techniques. We'll start with cycles of indirect techniques - the one universal phase entrance technique-based technology. It entails the completion, upon awakening, of no less than 4 cycles of techniques for a total of 9-15 seconds each, until a technique works. For some reason, many think that the proscribed minimum of 4 cycles does not apply to them. And so they do 1 or 2 cycles.... Like the time at one of my seminars when two men of about the same age sat next to each-other, both in the neighborhood of 45 years old. This was the second session, and they spoke about what they had been doing, and how things were going for them. The first man said that he had started by doing 2 cycles during one attempt, but then seeing as nothing was working, he decided to stop right there, even though I had said the previous afternoon to do 4 cycles. I had repeated it again and again... The second gentleman had also started by doing two cycles and nothing worked for him either. But he then started to do a third cycle, just like I had said to do. Then, one of the techniques worked like a charm during the fourth cycle, and he was able to leave his body. However, if he had done everything like his neighbor in the classroom, then nothing would have happened for him either... I have introduced this example only because I remember it quite well, as two people sitting next to one another sharply contrasted in their approach to what they were told to do.
People also very often forget when performing indirect techniques to first try to separate, and only then do cycles. With direct techniques, people also tend to forget about the free-floating state of mind, though without it there's no point in expecting anything, as I always point out early on.
Sometimes incomplete performance of techniques happens not because of a person's psychology, but out of an inability to complete a task. For example, with indirect techniques, it's very important to awaken without moving. Many are simply unable to keep themselves from moving. However, achieving this only requires practice. Not only that, but many also forget that if they wake up to their body moving, then they should nevertheless still make an attempt at separation. Sure, their odds are lower than usual, but are still quite high.
By and far, we could go on forever about the different ways in which people fail to fully perform techniques. I only wanted to tell you, friend, to try to fully implement all of the techniques. Each sentence and every word in the sections on techniques has been vetted by years of classroom instruction and has much more weight than a cursory glance would imply.
You see, in taking this book into your hands, you may mistakenly assume it be yet another work on some-odd occult or esoteric practice, in which everything is vaguely described and the majority of details are literally left up to the reader. Do not take such an approach to this book under any circumstances. Everything here is already well known, there's no reason to shroud this practice in a cloud of secrecy. You have clear instructions right here in front of you. Just follow them."

Thanks again for the help. I am sure that I am doing things 'my way' as you've said, but it's only because I feel there is a lack of explanation in some areas. For example, I've been reading about indirect techniques, so I plan to set my alarm for 6 hours of sleep, and then keep trying each time I wake up naturally, trying different techniques and trying to 'seperate'. I think what I'm having most trouble with is, in fact, the fact that it is an unknown path, and so I don't know what to do. For example, I've reached points in my experiments where I lose sound from the outside world, and then recoil because I feel I have to be aware, which just brings me out of where I was going. Are the indirect techniques going to just put me where I need to go? or is something more required? Finally, you mentioned I was being passive. What else am I supposed to do to make my efforts aggressive? I'm afraid that as of this moment, that is the most vague thing I'm trying to figure out. Again, I'm aware I've been doing things my own way on occasion, but I need some sort of map if you know what I mean. I guess I need to know what to expect so I can know if I'm doing it right or if I need to change some aspect, and what that may be.

The best thing to do would be to read the books as that is the road map that you need. I will say though that by being passive I really mean that you need to be more aggresive. When you experience the sensations of your 'other' body swinging or rotating 'will' yourself to stay conscious.

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

For example, I've reached points in my experiments where I lose sound from the outside world, and then recoil because I feel I have to be aware, which just brings me out of where I was going. Are the indirect techniques going to just put me where I need to go? or is something more required?

One thing that has greatly enhanced my efforts is ear plugs. That way no external sounds destroy my focus and in your case the lack of "sound from the outside world".

Originally Posted by DukeDreamWalker

One thing that has greatly enhanced my efforts is ear plugs.

Enhanced in what way please?

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Enhanced in what way please?

That way no external sounds destroy my focus and in your case the lack of "sound from the outside world".

Originally Posted by DukeDreamWalker

That way no external sounds destroy my focus.

I understand

Originally Posted by DukeDreamWalker

and in your case the lack of "sound from the outside world".

Ah, that was Sarge_Maximus2 that said that.

Yeah thanks. It all makes sense to me, but maybe I'm just frustrated having had previously good results with CrazyInsane's technique, and now another. Anyhow, I will follow the book as you suggested, but as a final question, does this sound like a good strategy? I plan to sleep for 6 hours before my alarm goes off (trying the seperating and then cycling techniques any time that I wake up spontaneously, whilst mastering my 'staying still upon awakening'.) then I will get up for a drink or watnot, and go back to bed, practicing indirect techniques as I will also do before I fall asleep as soon as I go to bed. That is for the weekdays, while in my weekends I plan to do the same thing, but after the 6 hour alarm, I will just keep 'sleeping in' to keep trying to have a successful session, while practicing. So I guess I'll treat it as a perfecting session, and if I achieve it great, but if not i'll keep trying to perfect it, sound good? Or is there an even better way to approach each night's trial? Sorry for all these questions lol. I know i should be reading the book (which I am) but it's good to get some not-so-technical help from people who've experienced it, besides the author. Hope that doesn't undermine my approach to the book.

yeah it is hard just keep telling your self you will consciously wake up and stay still, it will happen, I'm getting better at it.

Excellent information. Excellent E-book. Free and available for the masses.
Very very inspiring.

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

It all makes sense to me, but maybe I'm just frustrated having had previously good results with CrazyInsane's technique, and now another.

It isn't simply another technique. I had no success with CrazyInsane's method because it won't work for most people. Remember Mr. Raduga has personally taught this method to thousands of people in classrooms. He knows what works and what doesn't. He knows all of the pitfalls and mistakes that people make.

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

I will follow the book as you suggested, but as a final question, does this sound like a good strategy?

The best strategy is to follow the instructions of the textbook exactly as described.

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

I plan to sleep for 6 hours before my alarm goes off (trying the seperating and then cycling techniques any time that I wake up spontaneously, whilst mastering my 'staying still upon awakening') then I will get up for a drink or watnot, and go back to bed, practicing indirect techniques as I will also do before I fall asleep as soon as I go to bed.

As I said in my earlier post Mr. Raduga vehemently opposes practicing Direct Techniques before bed until one has mastered Indirect Techniques after six hours sleep. I would follow his advice. Though it is ok to practice Indirect Techniques before sleep - there are important differences between this and Direct Techniques. Once again reading the textbook is necessary to understand these differences.

Originally Posted by Sarge_Maximus2

I know i should be reading the book (which I am) but it's good to get some not-so-technical help from people who've experienced it.

Yes reading, and more importantly, studying the books will prevent you from making dire mistakes. As he says the textbook is like a physics textbook. Read and study the workbook instead for ease of reading and then go back to the textbook for deeper clarification

Originally Posted by moongrass

it will happen

Yes! Confidence and motivation. Ingredients for success!

Originally Posted by SKA

Excellent information. Excellent E-book. Free and available for the masses.
Very very inspiring.

My sentiments exactly

Hmm I am not noticing my awakenings during the night anymore
I guess I have to learn to do that before anything else.

Originally Posted by MasterMind

Hmm I am not noticing my awakenings during the night anymore
I guess I have to learn to do that before anything else.

As Mr. Raduga says the natural awakenings we have at night are excellent moments of opportunity but only when Indirect Techniques have been mastered with WBTB. His research has shown that this is what to do before anything else. If you are accustomed to having WILD's or DEILD's during the night then learning this method properly will skyrocket your previous workings.

So are you saying that I should pracctise WBTB with an alarm clock and then use indirect techniques ?and when that is "mastered" I should focus on my natural awakenings? but how am I supposed to do the indirect techniques with an alarm clock, then I have to move.

This is all in the book!!! Set your alarm to ring after six hours of sleep. Stay up for a time appropriate for you depending on your personal level of sleep resistance. Go back to sleep saying to yourself that when you next wake up naturally without any kind of alarm you will remain motionless and immediately practice Indirect Techniques. Once you are very good at having lucid dreams with Indorect Techniques then start to work on your natural awakenings throughout the night. In fact I have found them to be an excellent time to do them but due to my lack of experience with Indirect Techniques I kept going back to sleep and failing. Mr. Raduga is an expert, I am now doing exactly what he says. You will have the best results possible by doing the same, but you are only going to achieve that by reading and studying the books very carefully

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I may be wrong about this but it seems from what you have said that you haven't read up to page 40 as that is where the instructions for not moving upon awakening are. If you haven't read the textbook yet I would strongly suggest not skipping through the book to page 40 as you will miss vital information that will save you from making mistakes that will arrest your progress.

You're not wrong. I have an excuse though. I have the ebook, and reading on the computer is tiresome for me. So I tend to skip parts or not read in order. (In case you're wondering, my printer is broken)

But this is news!!! Last night, after practicing the phantom wiggling during the day, I awoke, and by chance, I didn't move for once!. Then I thought: 'This is my opportunity!' I tried Phantom Wiggling and my index finger moved up and down!!! Then I did the Listening in, and I heard an increasing beeeeeeeeeeep quite bothersome. Next I got so enthusiastic that I awoke. I'll give it another go tonight.

What I hadn't understand was that you were going to give each technique 3 to 5 seconds and try the next. I thought you were going to chose the one that you thought more suitable to you and stick to it. My mistake. I realized when I read your first post in this thread.

One more question. One thing I don't understand. I quote:

The phantom wiggling technique is not meant to produce
an imagined movement by a phantom body. The point of the
technique is to attempt the movement of a physical body part
without using muscular action. That is, the focus should rest upon
an internal intention of movement without physical action. When
the sensation occurs, it differs little from its real counterpart and
is often accompanied by heaviness and resistance. Generally,
there is very little range of movement at first, but with
concentrated effort the range of movement noticeably increases.

I've underlined the parts I didn't understand. My finger: did or didn't (physically) moved??? Was it only a very real 'feeling'? Or it was real real?

Thanks for your help!!!

Originally Posted by BridgetJones09

You're not wrong. I have an excuse though. I have the ebook, and reading on the computer is tiresome for me. So I tend to skip parts or not read in order. (In case you're wondering, my printer is broken)

I understand about reading is tiresome for you. I saw a friend of mine today who woke up blind one morning. We are extremely fortunate to be able to read at all. Your best option is to read the book slowly so that you understand what not to do. You will be richly rewarded if you are patient now and not make mistakes that will hinder your progress later.

Originally Posted by BridgetJones09

But this is news!!! Last night, after practicing the phantom wiggling during the day, I awoke, and by chance, I didn't move for once!. Then I thought: 'This is my opportunity!' I tried Phantom Wiggling and my index finger moved up and down!!! Then I did the Listening in, and I heard an increasing beeeeeeeeeeep quite bothersome. Next I got so enthusiastic that I awoke. I'll give it another go tonight.

Woohoo!

Originally Posted by BridgetJones09

What I hadn't understand was that you were going to give each technique 3 to 5 seconds and try the next. I thought you were going to chose the one that you thought more suitable to you and stick to it. My mistake. I realized when I read your first post in this thread.

Yes, Mr. Raduga says that switching between Indirect Techniques is important to success. A technique that may not work in initial training might work very well later on so the practice of techniques should be fluid.

Originally Posted by BridgetJones09

One more question. One thing I don't understand. I quote:

I've underlined the parts I didn't understand. My finger: did or didn't (physically) moved??? Was it only a very real 'feeling'? Or it was real real?

Thanks for your help!!!

You have what is called an etheric body. It is an exact duplicate of your physical body. It is usually fixed firmly in place with our physical bodies unless one loosens it which is what you did with your finger. Your etheric finger had loosened from your physical finger and that is why you could feel movement even though your physical finger was perfectly still

Trying not to get off topic but what I do that is great is put this ebook on my kindle. I would suggest it, great device!

I've tried phantom wiggling and along with that, listening in and straining the brain I plan to cycle. However, I have a question about the wiggling as well (and I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your generous efforts to bare with us strugglers) but my question is this: When I try phantom wiggling, my hand seems to clench up ever so slightly. I can feel my muscles get tense as I try to move the perciev ed hand, and cannot seem to shake this sensation. I am not trying to move my ohysical one, just my percieved hand, but I can feel a slight physical change. Is this normal or do you have another way to remain detached? Thanks.

Thankyou for asking, I have the same question. Sometimes it feels like I actually twitch my arm or something. IDK how to tell if I am really moving it or not.