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      The Wandering Mind

      I decided to try to WILD during a nap and I started off counting. I got to 99 and my mind skipped to 2001 because I was thinking of years, so I went from there and as Got to 2025 it started to skip again. Eventually my mind started to just wander. Of course, I regained awareness and felt energy flowing through my legs. I beleive this was SP but it went away after a couple of seconds after realizing it.

      Do you master wilders purposley let your mind wander for Wilds? Does it wander at all?
      Am i on the right track?
      What do you recomend I do from here?
      I was so much older then, I'm younger then that now.

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      From what I have learned from lucidology and own experiences, to test if you are in PARTIAL sleep paralysis and close to a dream, look for thoughts that pop up into your head.
      Like for instance if you are think you are in partial sleep paralysis and are daydreaming, sometime you can get an impression of you seeing a picture, but you can't remember when and where you have seen it. This is a memory impression and these is a sign of that your are starting to dream. - How to Have Lucid Dreams -- Excerpt from SaltCube Video - YouTube

      I can't say that I am a master of traditional WILDs like you are trying, although I would say that I am some kind of master on DEILDs, because they are so easy with the timer method.
      How ever that is not important because you are trying traditional WILDs, but when you DEILD and succeed you are already at the end that, tradtional wilders are trying to reach and this is where I got my experience from. And here I get memory impressions and I feel that my body, starts to "paralyse" but at the end I just have to get up, because I am laying in a dreambed.
      If you are in complete sleep paralysis, believe me you will notice it, you will hear loud sounds and see vivid images, and here you are already dreaming, but if you want to really be there and make the dream feel as reality, you have to use different techniques like visualisations or separation techniques as they are called.

      I hope that helped. Good luck with your WILD attempts, but if you sometime in the future decide to not do traditional WILDs rembember that DEILD should be your second choice

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      I second Choi you were in partial SP, this is what I usually get to, well done for getting there.
      You were right to let your mind wander, there is two popular ways to progress from here, either passive thoughts, where you don't really pay attention to anything and just let your mind wonder (whilst remaining aware), and there is visualized progression, where you attempt to visualize something, it could be falling, sinking, floating.

      Here is a WILD tutorial with the visualize method:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/adams-...chnique-53577/
      or
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/jeff77...hnique-116172/

      and the thoughtless...
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/yoshis...chnique-82529/

      Check em' out,
      Happy Dreams

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      Quote Originally Posted by Arch View Post
      I second Choi you were in partial SP, this is what I usually get to, well done for getting there.
      You were right to let your mind wander, there is two popular ways to progress from here, either passive thoughts, where you don't really pay attention to anything and just let your mind wonder (whilst remaining aware), and there is visualized progression, where you attempt to visualize something, it could be falling, sinking, floating.

      Here is a WILD tutorial with the visualize method:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/adams-...chnique-53577/
      or
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/jeff77...hnique-116172/

      and the thoughtless...
      http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/yoshis...chnique-82529/

      Check em' out,
      Happy Dreams
      Good links, but I forgot to tell the most common misstake people do when they WILD, and here's where I am stuck on traditonal WILD.
      When you finally get to sleep paralysis or even partial sleep paralysis, and you hear a sound or see an image or any new non-physical experience, it's already a dream and you are lucid, so if you get too excited or afraid, the dream sleep paralysis will slip away. And the solution to this is the same as to everything else, experience. When you have pracctised long enough to not get excited by these sensations anymore, you can move on.
      Last edited by Choi; 09-26-2011 at 07:46 AM.

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      Go ahead and let your mind wander a bit. Don't force yourself to concentrate exclusively on whatever you are doing, or you will never fall asleep. Your mind needs to wander a little in order to fall asleep and dream. If you are counting and find your thoughts drifting, just gently bring them back to counting. You can start from the beginning, or wherever you remember leaving off. Don't get frustrated. This is supposed to happen. Remember, the goal is not to count to a high number. The goal is to count until you fall asleep. You are falling asleep when your thoughts wander.

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      Also next time you are counting don't count from 1-100 or 1-1000 or 1-10000. You should always count from 1-10. When you get to 10, you have to be aware enough to go back to one so you don't start loosing awareness.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mancon View Post
      Also next time you are counting don't count from 1-100 or 1-1000 or 1-10000. You should always count from 1-10. When you get to 10, you have to be aware enough to go back to one so you don't start loosing awareness.
      I would never have thought to do that. Amazing idea.

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