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      Sensations and types of entry into WILD

      SENSATIONS AND HALLUCINATIONS DURING WILDing

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      DIFFERENT TYPES OF ENTRY INTO LUCID DREAM (WILD)

      *This is not a complete guide for WILD. It deals only with small part of WILDing process. For a comprehensive WILD guide, check out WILD (Sageous).*

      SENSATIONS AND HALLUCINATIONS

      When you are attempting a Wake Initiated Lucid Dream (WILD), you can experience certain sensations and hypnogogic hallucinations (HH). They may seem very real, but they are just made up by your mind. They are not real and they can not hurt you in any way. Purpose of this guide is not to scare you, but to let you know, that these exist, so you are not taken by surprise and you can wait it out and enter a lucid dream when they are over.

      Sensations and hallucinations:

      1. Your body getting heavy, relaxed, or weightless/floating
      2. Movement - as if you were on a waterbed, as if your bed or body was turning in either direction
      3. Falling/sinking
      4. Acceleration - as if you were flying head first at great speed
      5. Vibrations
      6. Body distortions
      7. You may hear different sounds

      You may not experience all of these, or any of these, or not the same ones at every attempt, or different intensity or length each time.

      So if you don't experience any of them, that doesn't mean, that you are doing anything wrong.

      On the other hand, if you do, don't get scared. Keep your cool, go with it, don't try to control it (at least until you are more experienced).

      All of what's happening is normal. It happens to all of us every time we sleep. Only we don't notice it, because if you not WILDing, by this time you are asleep.

      It's important not to pay too much attention to them. Just be a passive observer.



      TYPES OF ENTRY INTO LUCID DREAM
      These are some of the different ways to enter a lucid dream. You normally don't have a choice in which one will happen.

      1. Dream images
      First type of entry involves looking at the back of your closed eyelids. At first, you will see black and grey fog swirling around. Maybe you see some colors. Then you start seeing simple objects and geometric shapes. These will evolve into more complex pictures and dreams. You may see movie like scenes. When these scenes change into one big movie screen covering your whole field of vision, the dream is ready for you. But so far you are just an outside observer.

      You may either wait for it to envelop you and you suddenly find yourself inside of a dream, or you may look at the dream scene, pick a spot on the ground and say slowly and deliberately something like "I am there". This should transport you inside a dream.

      2. Floating or seeing your room
      This is entry with help of one of the sensations mentioned above. If you feel like you are floating above your bed, or you see your room with your eyes closed, your dream body has separated. All you need to do is stand up or roll out of the bed.

      This may not work on your first try. But more you think about it, you will start noticing when this happens and believe it or not, you will remember this article and you will give it a try and stand up, although you will be 100% sure, you are awake.

      So if you see your room, try a motionless RC - "If I was in a dream, I could levitate" and watch yourself lift up in the air. If this happens, you are in a dream. Stand up or roll out and go have fun.

      Sometimes instead of your room you see darkness. Do the same RC to find out if you are in a dream.

      3. Acceleration/falling/sinking
      These are also some of the sensations described above.

      Acceleration - feels as if you were flying at incredible speed, head first. Sometimes you even feel, as if you were touching some kind of a rough surface with stones and pebbles, so it can be really bumpy. Doesn't hurt at all, it's actually more fun than Disneyland. After you stop, get out of the bed and do RC, or try a motionless RC first.

      Falling/sinking - feels as if you were sinking through your mattress for a long time. RC when movement stops.

      4. Vibrations
      You feel your body parts or whole body vibrating, something like when you put your hand on purring cat (mild), or chainsaw (strong). RC when it stops.

      You can have more than one wave of vibrations. So after first ones are over, you may want to wait a few minutes to see if you get more of them.

      After the last two transition types, you may not see anything. It's possible, that your dream eyes are still closed. Go ahead and pry them open with your dream hands. Or, perhaps you are wearing dark glasses, or your hood is covering your eyes. Simply remove them with your dream hands.
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      Comments and questions are appreciated. If you have a different way of transitioning into a WILD, please share.
      Last edited by gab; 10-26-2012 at 09:38 PM.

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      Really awesome guide, this has cleared up a lot of confusion for me. Thanks heaps

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      This is awesome gab, thank you!

      In most of my WILDs, I get tunnel vision which grows bigger and bigger until my whole vision is the dream scene, and I enter it by imagining myself in it, or literally "walk into it" like going inside a tv.

      :3
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      ive experienced all of those
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      What I usually experience when entering dreams through WILD is ear splitting noise like the dream is emitting feedback from a microphone. I am unable to fully immerse into dream the as if the is rejecting me. The farthest I got was a second or two in before getting ejected from the dream.
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      Thanx for the guide!

      When i was trying to WILD, i had vibrations or tingling on my arms and legs. I also sometimes felt like my arm was moving around or my feet were moving. And I somewhat felt like i was being pulled upwards. I don't understand why i was feeling this though, because i hadn't even gotten that into it yet. My hypnogogic imagery was still mostly foggy and unfocused (but they were brightly colored). I didn't even have a dream scene and i could still move my real body parts.

      Is this ok?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gooeythrough12 View Post
      When i was trying to WILD, i had vibrations or tingling on my arms and legs. I also sometimes felt like my arm was moving around or my feet were moving. And I somewhat felt like i was being pulled upwards. I don't understand why i was feeling this though, because i hadn't even gotten that into it yet. My hypnogogic imagery was still mostly foggy and unfocused (but they were brightly colored). I didn't even have a dream scene and i could still move my real body parts.
      Is this ok?
      Vibrations are good. They mean, that you have stayed aware past the point, when normally your mind is already asleep.

      As far as I can tell, the vibrational stage is when you can either enter a lucid dream by waiting for dreams to form, or you can get a OBE by floating out.

      When you say your arms and legs were moving - do you mean like twitching? Or more like just moving. If moving, you can be feeling your phantom/astral body part already separating from your sleeping body. And you being pulled upwards is the same thing. At this moment you can think to yourself "Now I'm out of body", or I just think "up" as if mentally directing my astral body where to go. Once you feel only your astral body, you can stand up next to your bed and move away from your bed, so you don't get sucked in. And you are free to explore.

      This separation of our subtle body happens every night, when by raising vibrations, it get's out of phase with our body to get energized by energy from earth.

      If this fails and you don't separate, you can wait for vibrations to stop and do a RC to see, if you are already in LD. If not, you can wait for images to form into more complex pictures and dreams, which you can then enter. Good luck

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      I wish I had such obvious sensations like vibrations. Most of the time I see some short HI and then quickly fall asleep. I don't really know how to start practicing WILD.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Csorax View Post
      I wish I had such obvious sensations like vibrations. Most of the time I see some short HI and then quickly fall asleep. I don't really know how to start practicing WILD.
      Pay attention, it's quite likely that next time you will feel vibrations. It's easy to feel them, when you wake up at night to go to the restroom and when you return to bed, try saying your mantra for a few minutes. You may feel them then.

      From the beginning, my most common entry was through images, but lately I enter after vibrations. But images is my favorite method of entry. Once you start seeing HI, keep observing them, but just passively. Don't get excited, just acknowledge that they are there. Repeating simple mantra, for example "I'm dreaming" helps you to stay aware and not fall asleep too soon.

      Once the images evolve into more complex images and those into dream scenes - pick a spot in the dream and slowly and deliberately think "I......am......there". This should transport you inside of the dream. This type of entry - when you enter the dream - is for me easier, than waiting for the dream to envelop you. Just because that point is easy to miss and you don't have much of the indication as to when that happens.

      Please do ask, if you have any questions.

      Here is a great WILD (sageous) tutorial.

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      I woke up in the middle of the night and decided to try to WILD. After a failed first attempt (Forgot why) I tried again. After like 30 seconds, I felt like my whole body was numb, but had that tingly feeling(like when a foot falls asleep). I then felt like my body was curling up. Was I close?
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      Quote Originally Posted by boomaster1999 View Post
      I woke up in the middle of the night and decided to try to WILD. After a failed first attempt (Forgot why) I tried again. After like 30 seconds, I felt like my whole body was numb, but had that tingly feeling(like when a foot falls asleep). I then felt like my body was curling up. Was I close?
      Every sensation that you get when WILDing tells you, that you went past your normal "falling asleep" point. Your mind is still aware, while your body is shutting down. Those are the hallucinations you experience.
      And yes, curling up, or being twisted or destorted by unknown power is one of the sensations you can get when you are close to falling asleep = lucid dream. What happend afterwords? Did you fell asleep? If yes, a simple mantra like "I'm dreaming" should entertain your brain sufficiently, so you don't fall asleep too soon. Happy dreams

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      While it was happening I was just thinking of a random scenario, but as soon as I realized it was happening, I focused to much on it or something, and it stopped. I did an RC and wasn't dreaming, sadly.
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      Quote Originally Posted by boomaster1999 View Post
      While it was happening I was just thinking of a random scenario, but as soon as I realized it was happening, I focused to much on it or something, and it stopped. I did an RC and wasn't dreaming, sadly.
      It's best to be just a passive observer. Don't push anything. Try not to think "oh yeah, it's happening", or something that gets you excited.

      But even after it stops, not all is lost. Keep doing what you were doing and it's possible that in few minutes you will be back with vibrations or visuals.

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      Well, it was the best results I've ever had, so it was pretty exciting. Also, thanks for the help! I'll try again tonight.
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      Very good post as always, gab.

      Thanks
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      I tried WILD again today. It didn't work the same as last time (I know it shouldn't, but it was way different) I was wondering if not getting out of bed was the cause of this?

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      Quote Originally Posted by boomaster1999 View Post
      I tried WILD again today. It didn't work the same as last time (I know it shouldn't, but it was way different) I was wondering if not getting out of bed was the cause of this?
      Not getting out of bed may cause you to fall asleep too soon, because you just didn't wake yourself up enough. Is that what happened? Describe.

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      It was more of a "no sensations" type thing. Yesterday I actually got out of bed and had amazing results.

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      Quote Originally Posted by boomaster1999 View Post
      It was more of a "no sensations" type thing. Yesterday I actually got out of bed and had amazing results.
      Learning to WILD is a trial and error type of thing. But as long as you manage to keep yourself awake for long enough, even if you don't have any sensations, you just suddenly realize that you can see your room or blackness, when you know your eyes are closed. Lately, all I feel is very very mild vibrations, and then I just see my room.

      Sometimes I tell myself "when I see my room, I get up".

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      Tonight I'll try getting up and seeing if I get the sensations, then compare. Thanks again for the help!
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      I don't often notice the geometric shapes and what not in my hallucinations, but I do see flashes that eventually form a dream scene. The dream scene is more of a "day" dream scene, however I could try this anyways! Thanks!
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      By moving my arms and legs I mean my astral or dream body, but it's mostly my arms. When these feelings happens, i feel like they happen way to early in the process for me to be able to separate already, and I also think that if I try to move or do a reality check i will just ruin everything. And I'm a little worried (and excited) to astral project, because that might end up happening instead of lucid dreaming.

      But i still will try to do a reality check, move my astral body, and wait for the vibrations to start
      Thank you so much! This helped A LOT.
      What experiences have you had with OBEs and LDs?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gooeythrough12 View Post
      By moving my arms and legs I mean my astral or dream body, but it's mostly my arms. When these feelings happens, i feel like they happen way to early in the process for me to be able to separate already, and I also think that if I try to move or do a reality check i will just ruin everything. And I'm a little worried (and excited) to astral project, because that might end up happening instead of lucid dreaming.
      But i still will try to do a reality check, move my astral body, and wait for the vibrations to startWhat experiences have you had with OBEs and LDs?
      Not sure you need to RC when you separate by floating out. That would be OBE. But I'm not sure, give it a try. Do a motionless RC - try to levitate.

      I don't think you can exit before your body is ready. I mean exit happens only at the right time, you can't make it sooner than the right time. Each time I had an OBE (3 times) it happened during WILDing, or immediatelly after I gave up on the attempt, turned to the other side and went to sleep. It happened out of the blue, I wasn't trying to make it happen.

      I would suggest you find some websites, like obe4you.com - free videos on how to exit and free ebook. You could also search how to protect yourself before OBE. Also karen659 thread in Beyond dreaming. She has huge experience. Good luck

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      Well, I just woke up and here's the compared results. When I didn't get out of bed, I had little to no sensations. The first time I got out of bed, I walked to the bathroom then downstairs. Had the best sensations I've ever had. The second time I got out of bed I just went to the bathroom. I had okay sensations. Started numb, then went tingly, but it was only in my legs and arms. It wasn't throughout my body. Tonight I'll to recreate the first attempt at getting up to see if I get the major sensations.

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      I have to emphasise, that sensations are not the goal. When you WILD, your goal is to let your body fall asleep while your mind stays awake, but only to the point, when a dream has formed. Then you need to fall asleep while keeping your lucidity.

      It's possible not to feel any sensations and have a successfull WILD. You should not wait for them or pay too much attention to them. Each time you wait for sensations and they don't come, you lose your chance for a lucid dream, because you are focusing on the wrong thing. Wheather you get sensations or not, continue with your attempt.

      You should basically just try and go to sleep after some hours of sleep, and let your body fall asleep while you keep your mind awake by mantras. Everybody interested in WILD, please read this WILD (sageous) tutorial.

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