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      ^^ Sure, something could happen if you manage to stay aware a bit longer... especially if you do so with LD'ing in mind, with a solid focus on your upcoming dream.

      Here are a couple of other small thoughts:

      * Counting, in my mind, isn't the best way to either fall asleep or complete a WILD. This is because counting can tend to wake you up too much, especially if you're only counting, and not including any, say, visualization or relaxation techniques (or minding your breath, as you finally did) with it.

      * Keep in mind that the goal in WILD is to fall asleep. Yes, you are doing so without losing touch with your waking-life self-awareness, but you still must fall asleep. Try not to think in terms of "...should i stay awake will something happen?" but rather in terms of "when I fall asleep my dream will happen, and I will be there."
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      Well its me again and this one is funny i also have some questions but first, when i got up after 5 hours i decided to do the SSILD mini cycles around 6-7 times 3 seconds on each sense and did MILD or a should i say i lot of auto suggestion to the point of near insomnia or an insomnia kind state this time i didn't count myself to sleep i just decided to wait it out see what happens well it passed around 40 minutes i wasn't laying still or anything i did move from time to time but not a lot then the noise and the vibrations came and decided to separate which didn't work or so i taught got disappointed and rolled over to my back before i was laying on my stomach but here's where it gets weird and funny when i rolled over it felt like someone else was controlling my body or i think i didn't feel my bed like i was levitating a bit i suspected that so what happened next a taught came that i was still in sleep paralysis and it was normal for my subconscious to control my body lol also at that point i did have self awareness and a little bit of memory but i think my IQ was low at that point when i rolled over to my back i saw the ceiling but not really it was a dream felling disappointed i decided to go to sleep when i closed my eyes i was in a non lucid dream and it ended around 1-2 minutes

      are WILDs unstable should i perform stabilization techniques ? because it didn't lasted long or was it just a coincidence ? maybe i was at the end of my REM cycle

      can i DEILD when the REM cycle is over i did this couple a days ago waited 10 minutes and felt REM atonia for 10 minutes should i wait more will something happen ?

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      ^^ [Before I start, Kir4ee, I have a request: Please, please, please use punctuation and capitalization in your posts. It is extremely difficult to decipher posts like this as presented, and I really don't want to misunderstand you. I know it's easier to just hurl all the words out as they come to you, but there really is a reason that we've all been using grammar for the last few centuries, and that reason is so that we can communicate as easily as possible. I hope, in the future, you'll do what you can.] Anyway...

      From what I could gather from your account, it seems that you may have been paying way to much attention to the noise. When it "got weird and funny," as you noted, it was probably time to say to yourself something like, "Hey, the HI (aka, the noise) is getting pretty weird/intense, so the dream must be right around the corner."

      I'm not sure what you meant by deciding to separate, but I'll assume it was similar to metaphorically rolling out of your body and into the dream; that separation may have failed because you were too focused on the stuff going on around you than you were on beginning your dream. So next time, I suggest that you be patient, and let all the noise happen, including imagining that someone was controlling your body (no one was, of course; you were likely just feeling your body preparing for sleep, and that can get weird, especially if you give it too much attention).

      Here are a couple of specific thoughts:

      Quote Originally Posted by kir4ee View Post
      ... a taught came that i was still in sleep paralysis and it was normal for my subconscious to control my body lol
      Your subconscious really doesn't control your body when you are asleep; your body is essentially shut off when you're sleeping, so any sensations of movement or of someone else controlling you are likely more centered in your imagination than in reality... I don't say this to be harsh or negative, but rather to remind you that everything you experience in your WILD is coming from You, in one way or another, and is never the doing of some force outside your ultimate control.

      More important, though: If you have to think or wonder if you are in SP, then be assured that you are not. Trust me when I say that if you are truly in SP, you will know it.

      ... also at that point i did have self awareness and a little bit of memory but i think my IQ was low at that point when i rolled over to my back i saw the ceiling but not really it was a dream felling disappointed i decided to go to sleep when i closed my eyes i was in a non lucid dream and it ended around 1-2 minutes
      This might run contrary to what they tell you on these forums, but your IQ really doesn't change in dreams. The machinery of you consciousness is working just fine, and your intelligence is as high as ever, throughout the dreaming process. What is missing isn't IQ, but memory: if you lack a reference point from which to confirm, say, that the ceiling you were looking at is wrong, it isn't that you're any stupider, just that you cannot remember that what you're seeing isn't right.

      So, in the end, you might have thought you were in possession of high self-awareness and had access to memory, but your connection to waking-life consciousness might have been a bit weaker than you thought.

      are WILDs unstable should i perform stabilization techniques ?
      WILD's are inherently unstable, I think, if only because we are not supposed to stay awake while we are going to sleep. This stability is the main reason why we do all these techniques to manage a WILD transition. After you have begun your LD, though (meaning the WILD transition is actually complete, and behind you), stability is up to you; so yes, perform those stabilization techniques.

      can i DEILD when the REM cycle is over i did this couple a days ago waited 10 minutes and felt REM atonia for 10 minutes should i wait more will something happen ?
      I personally believe that REM is defined by dreaming, and that dreaming is not dependent on REM. In other words, a successful DEILD will certainly bring about more REM, because You have determined that you want to dream some more. In even more other words: REM is a reflection of dreaming, not its controller.

      So yes: I highly recommend that you wait longer, because something, something like a LD, likely will happen.
      Last edited by Sageous; 02-04-2017 at 07:18 AM.
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