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      ^^ Sure, something could happen if you manage to stay aware a bit longer... especially if you do so with LD'ing in mind, with a solid focus on your upcoming dream.

      Here are a couple of other small thoughts:

      * Counting, in my mind, isn't the best way to either fall asleep or complete a WILD. This is because counting can tend to wake you up too much, especially if you're only counting, and not including any, say, visualization or relaxation techniques (or minding your breath, as you finally did) with it.

      * Keep in mind that the goal in WILD is to fall asleep. Yes, you are doing so without losing touch with your waking-life self-awareness, but you still must fall asleep. Try not to think in terms of "...should i stay awake will something happen?" but rather in terms of "when I fall asleep my dream will happen, and I will be there."
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      Well its me again and this one is funny i also have some questions but first, when i got up after 5 hours i decided to do the SSILD mini cycles around 6-7 times 3 seconds on each sense and did MILD or a should i say i lot of auto suggestion to the point of near insomnia or an insomnia kind state this time i didn't count myself to sleep i just decided to wait it out see what happens well it passed around 40 minutes i wasn't laying still or anything i did move from time to time but not a lot then the noise and the vibrations came and decided to separate which didn't work or so i taught got disappointed and rolled over to my back before i was laying on my stomach but here's where it gets weird and funny when i rolled over it felt like someone else was controlling my body or i think i didn't feel my bed like i was levitating a bit i suspected that so what happened next a taught came that i was still in sleep paralysis and it was normal for my subconscious to control my body lol also at that point i did have self awareness and a little bit of memory but i think my IQ was low at that point when i rolled over to my back i saw the ceiling but not really it was a dream felling disappointed i decided to go to sleep when i closed my eyes i was in a non lucid dream and it ended around 1-2 minutes

      are WILDs unstable should i perform stabilization techniques ? because it didn't lasted long or was it just a coincidence ? maybe i was at the end of my REM cycle

      can i DEILD when the REM cycle is over i did this couple a days ago waited 10 minutes and felt REM atonia for 10 minutes should i wait more will something happen ?

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      ^^ [Before I start, Kir4ee, I have a request: Please, please, please use punctuation and capitalization in your posts. It is extremely difficult to decipher posts like this as presented, and I really don't want to misunderstand you. I know it's easier to just hurl all the words out as they come to you, but there really is a reason that we've all been using grammar for the last few centuries, and that reason is so that we can communicate as easily as possible. I hope, in the future, you'll do what you can.] Anyway...

      From what I could gather from your account, it seems that you may have been paying way to much attention to the noise. When it "got weird and funny," as you noted, it was probably time to say to yourself something like, "Hey, the HI (aka, the noise) is getting pretty weird/intense, so the dream must be right around the corner."

      I'm not sure what you meant by deciding to separate, but I'll assume it was similar to metaphorically rolling out of your body and into the dream; that separation may have failed because you were too focused on the stuff going on around you than you were on beginning your dream. So next time, I suggest that you be patient, and let all the noise happen, including imagining that someone was controlling your body (no one was, of course; you were likely just feeling your body preparing for sleep, and that can get weird, especially if you give it too much attention).

      Here are a couple of specific thoughts:

      Quote Originally Posted by kir4ee View Post
      ... a taught came that i was still in sleep paralysis and it was normal for my subconscious to control my body lol
      Your subconscious really doesn't control your body when you are asleep; your body is essentially shut off when you're sleeping, so any sensations of movement or of someone else controlling you are likely more centered in your imagination than in reality... I don't say this to be harsh or negative, but rather to remind you that everything you experience in your WILD is coming from You, in one way or another, and is never the doing of some force outside your ultimate control.

      More important, though: If you have to think or wonder if you are in SP, then be assured that you are not. Trust me when I say that if you are truly in SP, you will know it.

      ... also at that point i did have self awareness and a little bit of memory but i think my IQ was low at that point when i rolled over to my back i saw the ceiling but not really it was a dream felling disappointed i decided to go to sleep when i closed my eyes i was in a non lucid dream and it ended around 1-2 minutes
      This might run contrary to what they tell you on these forums, but your IQ really doesn't change in dreams. The machinery of you consciousness is working just fine, and your intelligence is as high as ever, throughout the dreaming process. What is missing isn't IQ, but memory: if you lack a reference point from which to confirm, say, that the ceiling you were looking at is wrong, it isn't that you're any stupider, just that you cannot remember that what you're seeing isn't right.

      So, in the end, you might have thought you were in possession of high self-awareness and had access to memory, but your connection to waking-life consciousness might have been a bit weaker than you thought.

      are WILDs unstable should i perform stabilization techniques ?
      WILD's are inherently unstable, I think, if only because we are not supposed to stay awake while we are going to sleep. This stability is the main reason why we do all these techniques to manage a WILD transition. After you have begun your LD, though (meaning the WILD transition is actually complete, and behind you), stability is up to you; so yes, perform those stabilization techniques.

      can i DEILD when the REM cycle is over i did this couple a days ago waited 10 minutes and felt REM atonia for 10 minutes should i wait more will something happen ?
      I personally believe that REM is defined by dreaming, and that dreaming is not dependent on REM. In other words, a successful DEILD will certainly bring about more REM, because You have determined that you want to dream some more. In even more other words: REM is a reflection of dreaming, not its controller.

      So yes: I highly recommend that you wait longer, because something, something like a LD, likely will happen.
      Last edited by Sageous; 02-04-2017 at 07:18 AM.
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      Hey, I need some tips on transitioning :p

      What happened to me last night is I accidentally almost did WILD without even trying to xD (this gives me hopes that I will succeed at wilding pretty soon).
      I woke up at around 2. I wrote down my dream, went to the bathroom and tried to sleep again, but for some reason I wasn't tired. I decided i'd stay still as long as I needed in order to fall asleep, and I decided I'll also repeat my mantra in the hopes of getting a MILD. I started feeling my hands getting numb and started seeing hypnagogic images. This was similar to what I felt some time ago when trying to FILD, so i decided to keep going. A hallucination of my heartbeat getting faster and faster started and I was really tense and trying to relax myself. Normally I would be scared at this point, but because the EXACT same thing happened when I attempted FILD, I managed to stay a bit calmer. At this point I felt my eyes trying to open. Some seconds later I realised they where twitching. I knew this was probably REM and thought i was getting close to dreaming. The thing is, with my eyes moving like that, how am I supposed to visualise a dream? Anyway, my eyes where moving too much in surprise and I ended waking up

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      ^^ It sounds to me like you don't need any tips at all!

      Except of course my usual suggestion that you stop paying so much attention to the noise, and maybe that WILD's work much better when you plan for them, so next time things might go much better because you attempted your WILD after planning to do so, with specific timing in mind.

      Here's another thing to think about, too: REM does not occur until after you are dreaming. You experience Rapid Eye Movement due to your eyes' following the "action" of your dream, so by definition you won't be in REM until after you've fallen asleep and begun dreaming. Given that, I would say your moving eyes probably had nothing to do with REM, and was likely just a bit more distracting noise. I would suggest you let them twitch and try to continue falling asleep without being too distracted; I have a feeling that, if you calmly allow them to move without concern from you, they will hold steady pretty quickly... in fact, I think if you focused on something like visualizing your dream, you likely will forget about those frisky eyes pretty quickly.

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      I had a very bad insomnia when i first went to bed it took me two and a half hours to fall asleep then i woke up after four and a half hours and then bam!! the insomnia was back then it took me one and a half hour too fall asleep during that time i had the vibrations of the WILD transition but they ware weak

      The second time they ware stronger but i didn't had a direct transition but instead i ended up in a false awakening in which i was sleeping in the hall lol and i had full self awareness and memory so it was easy to be lucid right away.

      So i tested some stuff first was looking at my origami models they looked like in real life with every detail! i looked at my hands the fingers ware messed up, but the thing that surprised me was before i had the lucid dream i said to myself if i had lucid dream i would fly and look around the environment so wen i went outside i flew subconsciously without trying it was amazing.

      So something to point out ever since i had my first WILD if i have an insomnia episode after 4 hours of sleep most of the time it results in a lucid dream this also happens if i screw up a technique and end up having insomnia i don't know why this happens and why it didn't happen before but maybe i have activated regions of the brain that ware never active just a theory.

      I hope you enjoy reading this i just have one question do you have WILDs when you have an insomnia episode ?

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      ^^ Thanks for sharing, Kir4ee; interesting stuff!

      In all honesty, when I have a bout of insomnia I just get up and do something else, because I know there is no hope of getting to sleep.

      With that said, I should mention that it very often tends to take me an hour or two to fall asleep when doing a WILD after WBTB, so I really don't consider the sort of delay you note to be insomnia -- just an annoyance.

      For what it's worth, though, I've had some of my most amazing LD's after taking 1-2 hours to get back to sleep... so you might be on to something after all!
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      I've had a successfull WTBT i think , I tried with wild, but i lost lucidity before transition.
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      Success! today i had my worst and best lucid dream lol also i like to state i didn't use any technique at all so for the past two weeks i have been having insomnia episodes and in some nights i would wake up up to 3-4 times and having a lot of semi lucid dreams by what i mean as a semi lucid it could be a failed RC or suspecting something that's not right but don't do anything, also my dream recall i much better since i wake up a lot

      So today i woke up after 5 hours of sleep and couldn't fall a sleep because of anxiety but i some how said to my self if have a lucid dream today i will do this and this some dream goals so to take my mind of things my only thoughts ware about lucid dreaming and fell asleep.

      My first lucid dream was a lucid nightmare adn a DILD at first the lucid dream was not stable it was like i was drunk so i wanted to experiment something looking at a mirror so when i got to a mirror the reflection i saw was terrifying i saw a female like form the movie Orphan i dont know if you have seen it but as i saw that i was paralyzed and couldn't move and made eye contact after a few seconds i turned around and flew subconsciously so fast in the sky until i lost all my senses and disappeared in to nothingness so when i woke up i was terrified.

      My second one was a WILD i caught a micro awakening and tried to separate and it worked this was the most stable WILD by far had memory and had a lot of fun it was very vivid i learned a new super power shooting electricity from my hand at first it didn't work because i taut it would work like visualization but i added sensations of the WILD vibrations on my right hand and it worked at first i had sparks but then i could shoot electricity which was fun i also did the rewind time power which it worked and tried some other stuff like super speed or super jump but they didn't work all in all the LD felt like it lasted 30 min and was very stable and i had a blast ^_^

      Also important note the second lucid dream had a room filled with mirrors and my reflection was like normal like in real life i didn't focus too much on them of the fear of my last lucid but i passed by them a couple of times and it was fine
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      ^^ Great work, kir4ee!

      Your post was an excellent example of how things will work in your favor when your head is in the right place; thanks for sharing!
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