Thread: Oneironaut's Artwork

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Originally Posted by Oneironaut

Hey, tommo. Thanks for the input.

Well, I can kind of see a skewing in the Goku pic. I actually made the right (his left) shoulder too small, but it was too late for me to fix it, when I noticed it. Some of his proportions may not be dead-on, because I have to draw kind of quickly at work, and I don't really get a chance to scrutinize, too much. His hair is perfectly curved to one side, because I didn't want to do it straight up and down, since hair flaps in wind.

On the Thalia pic, before him, it may just be because of the perspective that I tried to give it. She's standing at kind of an angle, so everything on one side (her left) of her body is going to be bigger than everything on the other. Also, I wanted to give her just the slightest backward lean, compensating for the weight of her staff. So, if you mean that the pic looks like it's kind of right-side oriented (our right), then yeah. I agree.

That's not to say I don't have a subconscious skew. I just wanted to point out some things that might have been mistaken as skew. I'd say I do the outline second, though. I start by mapping out the head, limbs and body in light circles and squares, then I do the outline and details on top of it. I'll still remember to keep in mind what you said, though, and check on whether or not I'm skewing the picture, unaware.

Yes I realised what you mention here, the angle etc could make it look skewed, but I think there's still skewing going on.
I'll show you what I mean.



That's good that you do the sort of construction lines first (squares, circles etc.) When you do these, make sure the perspective is correct and the construction lines don't skew to one side before you start the outlines or whatever and the picture will be much better for it.

Oh and also if the wind is pushing the hair on goku, the tips should really be pushed to the right as well. It's just these little things which give the look of skewing. Ok I have said skewing enough now lol Can't think of any other word.

I have to say though, your shading is fantastic. Especially on the Thalia lady with the spear, the shading and contrast is great. Just giving some constructive criticism. Hope it can help ya.

Look forward to seeing more.

Originally Posted by tommo

Yes I realised what you mention here, the angle etc could make it look skewed, but I think there's still skewing going on.
I'll show you what I mean.

Ah, yes. On the Goku, I definitely see that the right (his left) leg is bigger. I'd gotten pretty careless with it. And I see what you're saying about the hair. I could have put a little more curve in the tips, but since I was drawing in pen, I kind of took the safest route. Haha. I haven't had much success with drawing flowing hair, in the past. It always just looks kind of...weird.

On the Thalia pic, though, I have to disagree about the boobs. I mean, just the fact that she's turned to that side, her left arm is raised, and her right arm is down, wouldn't that naturally draw her left boob up higher than the other?

I definitely agree about the eyes, though. That's been the one main thing that bothered me about that picture. It's specifically her left eye. I made it too high.

Originally Posted by tommo

That's good that you do the sort of construction lines first (squares, circles etc.) When you do these, make sure the perspective is correct and the construction lines don't skew to one side before you start the outlines or whatever and the picture will be much better for it.

I'll try to be a bit more careful with it, but a lot of these drawings start out as throw-away sketches that I just keep building on, so I'm often about 15% into the picture before I realize that it's something I actually want to tighten up and make a project out of. Heh.

I might post a step-by-step of how I form one of these pics, from the beginning, just to show the way that I make the basic shapes.

Originally Posted by tommo

I have to say though, your shading is fantastic. Especially on the Thalia lady with the spear, the shading and contrast is great. Just giving some constructive criticism. Hope it can help ya.

Look forward to seeing more.

Thanks. And I always appreciate constructive criticism.

With the boobs, I didn't mean the height. More that the angle that they are on.... ummm, dunno really how to explain it. They look too flat I guess. Like the left one looks more like it's front on and the right one sticks out more, the right one is more correct. I dunno if it's just the shading that is too flat there, but I think it is also the line, it starts way too high up.
(When I say left and right I always mean the left and right from my perspective). And in this case I'm talking about the one that I flipped around lol.

Anyway, yes please do post one how you go about drawing.

Peace.

Originally Posted by tommo

(When I say left and right I always mean the left and right from my perspective). And in this case I'm talking about the one that I flipped around lol.

Lol.
Seriously, though. I see what you mean, on that one. I'm not sure if I agree that it's off, but I do see how it could look that way. She's only got a slight turn in her upper-torso, so I would think (especially with the right arm cocked up like that) that boob would be more straight-on than at an angle, like the other. I dunno, though. My perspective has never been perfect, but I think I'm close!

Yeah you're very close. It's just little things that make it look off. And I'm being kinda picky. Non-artists would not pick it up hehe

Originally Posted by Aquanina

You've inspired me to post some of my sketches. I'm so out of practice though.

Yeah, why don't you have a sketch thread, here, Aquanina? I want to see what you've been up to. I seem to remember seeing some of your drawings on myspace or deviantart or something a few years ago.

I need to post some new stuff, too. (You show me yours, I'll show you mine )

New guy:


Gonna draw him sitting on something. Just don't know what, yet.

There's the skewing again O!
See it skewing to the top right? (Most obvious on the face)
Fix it before you draw the chair or whatever you're gonna do. You'll be much happier afterward.

Originally Posted by tommo

There's the skewing again O!
See it skewing to the top right? (Most obvious on the face)
Fix it before you draw the chair or whatever you're gonna do. You'll be much happier afterward.

Lmfao. Yeah, I see it a lot in this one. I just knew you were going to point it out. Heh.

Really, though, I think it has a lot to do with the cluttered work area that I do the sketches on. Drawing on our desks is actually very uncomfortable, so I'm usually at an awkward position and can't keep my lines properly. Even my guides/circles have a rightward skew to them. It's actually a lot harder to notice the skew, when the paper is sitting on the desk (usually cocked at an angle), instead of straight up and down, as it is on the monitor.

But, oh well. I'll keep working at it!

(As of now, it's a bit too late to fix this one, though - in the face, anyway. I'll do what I can, with the rest.)

Nice new drawing. How about a crate in a warehouse?

It's been a while, but here are a few more sketches...

Added some more to the guy from the last pic. (I didn't even see your suggestion until just now, Tam. Show's how long I've been away. Lol.) And I know that there's massive skewing on the left side of the wall, but I wasn't really planning on putting much work into it. After I realized that the pic was turning out better than I expected, I used a straight edge, for the right side of the wall. Notice the difference. Lol.


Scorpion:


Sort of my own rendition of Gabriel Belmont from the new Castlevania game:


Started putting some background in there:


Dunno why, but I've been all about the blue pen, lately. That Scorpion pic was actually drawn in blue pen, also, but I colored it with PrismaColors.

scorpion and gabriel show you've improved a lot!
There are some thing I could pick on lol (always is really with any artwork) but you've improved heaps well done!

Thanks, tommo! And don't worry, I don't take criticism personal. Hell, I figure that; if I can always find something I could pick at, with my own artwork (and I can), I just know that other people have some critiques of their own.

Much appreciated, though!

Here we go:



I may add a few more mountains, in the background, but for now, I'm satisfied.

I hate when people just say " " Coz it seems like the most insincere comment ever. But know that it's because I'm busy!

Major, major improvement. I think the head on the left werewolf is shifted a bit too far left, and maybe a bit down. Great work on the hands. Love the overall mood with the moonlight on the trees and the general detailing of the trees also.

Thanks, both of you.

Yeah, Invader, the head on the left werewolf is the main thing I wish I could have fixed. By the time I noticed the error, though, it was too far to in to cover it up. That's part of why I put so much black down there, though, before I created the rest of the scene; I wanted to at least try to create some ambiguity about how the wolf's neck might be positioned. Heh.

I'm glad you like the trees, though. I was really worried about how those would come out. I've never done trees (in any form), with some sort of perspective, but I think they actually turned out pretty good, especially for being in pen!

Trying to get some more photoshop practice under my belt, so I'm going back to creating more photo-manipulated frames for my dreams. At first, I was going to wait until I'd gotten all of the frames for this one done, before I posted them, but I figured that I'd just post them as I do them. Then, when I get a whole set done, I'll just post them to my journal.

Here are a few from the dream I'm doing now:











I'll have the last two (or three) up, soon!

[Edit:]
Here's the next one:

'Nother one from the same dream:

Last One:

And here is the final product:

11/17/2010 - "Blood in the Water"

[Edit:]
And here are some collages of the source pics I used for each picture, if anyone is interested. :]

Source Pics (Boat)

Source Pics (Captive)

Source Pics (Vampires)

Source Pics (Slaughter)

Source Pics (Explosion)

Source Pics (The Water)

Source Pics (Survivors)

Source Pics (Clubbin)

Man that's fucking awesome.

I especially love that exploding ship, that's brilliant.
For all of them in general, I love how they feel so alive (except the dead people )

Thanks, Slash!

Yeah, the explosion was the most fun to do. Haha. I was actually really surprised at how good it came out, by the time I was done with it! Believe it or not, the hardest part about the whole thing is finding the right pictures to fit the scene. I've spent over an hour looking for single pictures. Lol.

Can't wait to get started on some more of these, though.