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      Hey um noise rock? have you heard of it at all:

      One type is Noise Rock wiki on noise rock...

      A more interestingly strange type of noiserock is called either Harsh Noise or just Noise...which often lacks even the smallest musical attributes of Noise Rock. Harsh noise is almost only ...harsh noise, lacking rythm beat etc...For example a noisician like Dominik Fernow of the solo band Prurient could play a song almost entirely of microphone feedback. heres a video: Prurient making a loud sound!?and looking insane at the same time (BTW theres a legend that Prurient's live show once made a baby's ears bleed...idk if it's true...but the music is very harsh.)

      Here are a few other links to "songs" Stimbox Myspace, Macronympha Myspace, Xome Myspace...Panicsville Myspace check out their Myspace Friends for more...Noise MP3s...has some aswell

      Alien8 records sells some noise too check out Daniel Menche (known for his self described music as "vehement beauty" also has swallowed a piezoelectric vibration tranducer (contact mic), Masonna (part of the Japanoise scene...noise rock is big (in an underground way) and has been done for over 30 years in Japan), Merzbow (one of the originators..) etc... Alien8

      Also check out iheartnoise.com or harshnoise.com...probably the best sources.

      Anyways this genre isn't new...it has been claimed to be started officially in the 1930's...and often create by people like Henri Chopin later on. Sometimes "Noise" is classified as "high-art" or "abstact music" or "avant-garde" and is often performed in art galleries...places like the Tate Modern in London included...Uh I put this in "Artist's Corner" for that reason...

      Supposedly noise rock is gaining in popularity...noisicians often open for Sonic Youth (Thurston Moore is into noise...) and the noise band Wolf Eyes was even schedualed to play Lollapalooza...(btw they didn't) People even collect the music...Merzbow albums can sell for over $50 on ebay.

      Similarily is the "anti-record" taking vinyl..stratching it...smashing it...drilling holes in it and then glueing it back togething and calling it music. Noise bands will also package their albums in the most ridiculous ways...Merzbow once packaged an album in a real car...other bands will have albums packaged with about 50lbs of metal garbage around it...or in a plexiglass box that is impossible to open..or one band even packaged an album in a box filled with blood.

      So has anyone here ever heard of this genre? Does anyone here listen to it?or.....Is this even music?
      personally I dont "enjoy" listening to it usually...but its very interesting to listen to...creats all kinds of moods...and has interesting "texture"...yah.

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      Not sure i'd call some of those bands on that list in wikipedia noise. I don't even recognise half of them, but i don't think Ruins are noise at all, for example. Anyway, that doesn't matter.

      I'm not sure about noise rock, but i do like some music that would be seen as noise/drone type stuff. Sunn O))) for example (Merzbow has collaborated with them) is decent stuff, Borbetomagus (free jazz/noise) sounds real good, and some of John Zorn's free improv is fantastic. I also find myself strangely attracted to Masonna, if i'm in the right mood.

      The thing about that kind of music is that it's not conventional music in that melody plays little or no part in it, but what a lot of people don't appreciate is that it still has a certain vibe to it, a certain draw, that melody can't achieve. And i think that's why a lot of people might be hesitant to say they enjoy such music, but can't deny that part of them is drawn to it. There's just something unique that speaks to a part of us (or me anyway) in a weird way. You said it great when you said "texture". That's what it's all about i think.

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      Weird!!!!! Absolutely weird!

      Though I did find listening to Stimbox funny, and that guy in prurient must be on something...


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      Prurient is strange as hell lol...and Masonna throwsdown sort-of...the one interview on here he says he gets hurt every live show. Masonna Live...

      Yah Ardent I noticed not all those bands are really "noise", wiki might have jst listed all bands that use even some "noise" as part of a song or 2.

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      I like some sonic youth stuff...not sure if that is full-fledged noise rock.


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      I may be fucking insane, but if you kinda just listen to the noise music, but not in the conventional "listening" way...but kinda different, just kinda like "listen past the music man..." its kinda interesting...
      Brian Eno says you can hear songs within the noise music, and he's a producer maybe im not insane


      no...yah i read that over and I am insane.

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      I don't think it matters who says what about it. If you like listening to it you like listening to it. As far as i'm concerned there's some good music out there that a lot of people wouldn't call music, rather random noise. But i listen to it and i feel things from it, and that's good enough for me. Music is relative. Beauty is in the ear of the listener, so to speak. Some people think music has to contain melody and structure, others are content to call complete silence music.

      If that's insane, i better head off to a mental hospital

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      Ah, wow
      I love noise !!
      makes real music sound *even* better

      now, I'm not one to denounce people's music, usually
      as someone above me said
      beauty is in the ear of the listener

      usually....

      but seriously, wtf is wrong with you all

      Try This Instead it's less likely to scare your cat

      If you want some proper noise, check out the Art of Noise
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      Yah ynot...I'm thinking insanity is paramount for noiserock that or pretentiousness..



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      But going by that theory means that music is an intellectual tool or something. You don't have to be insane for noise to appeal to you. It just means you have the ability to put conventionality aside and let the music reach a part of you that 'rational' music can't.

      And Ynot, Tower of Power are cool, and while that was a real cool song, it still can't make me feel the same way as more unconventional music can. I'm not saying noise is necessarily better, nor that funk/fusion or any other style is better than noise. They're all good in their own right.

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      on a sort of noise tip

      Ynot - Spectral Climatix

      Is a sort of test track of mine, playing around with the digital delay

      Was trying to figure out a set of rules / formulas for making the decays fall on beat (rather than on some sort of ad-hoc trial and error basis)
      needless to say, it didn't work
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      Masonna - Frequencey L.S.D. 13
      That's about as noise as it gets Something i don't listen to often, but occasionally.

      Or for something a little more barable - noise infused electronica i just discovered
      Diana Behlke

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      Ardentlost:
      But going by that theory means that music is an intellectual tool or something. You don't have to be insane for noise to appeal to you. It just means you have the ability to put conventionality aside and let the music reach a part of you that 'rational' music can't.[/b]


      yah exactly...I am a fan of noise btw i just say things like "insanity is paramount" only partially serious and partly to bump my topic !


      ...let the music reach a part of you that 'rational' music can't.[/b]
      exactly!!!


      btw that's awsome I was hoping someone else would know of someone like masonna here! btw other than masonna do you listen to anyone else when you listen to noise? (yah i can't listen to it all the time or anything either)

      ((btw did you see the youtube masonna live i posted a few posts up?...he is a character...))

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      It just says "no video found"

      Well if you mean strictly noise, there aren't a lot of artists i listen to. But i do like some Sunn O))), which is noise but not really violent, more drone oriented. A lot like a smiliar band Earth, who were supposedly pioneers of the drone style. I'm also really interested in Borbetomagus who blend free jazz and noise. Very vibrant, schizophrenic type stuff.

      Apart from noise i'm really interested in experimental music in general, like free improv. Derek Bailey, John Zorn, Fred Frith, that kind of stuff. You know, not noise specifically, as in the genre, but based on similar ideas - texture rather than melody or rhythm.

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