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      Dream Musician 747Music's Avatar
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      So, umm... I make music...

      Hey folks. I'm pretty new here. However, I make music that is very related to my dreams. It's experimental psychadelic music. check it out www.myspace.com/747MusicIEC

      Hope you enjoy. Tell me what you think.
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      Nice! I really like it, and i appreciate this kind of music. And it's certainly got a dreamy kind of connection. Well done!

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      Haha nice, I recognize you from either WATMM or twoism. BOC pride! ^_^
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      I wouldn't go so far as to call it music, but it does have intersting sounds to listen to.
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      I really hope you're joking cause otherwise I shall ban you from my memory banks.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tarsier View Post
      I really hope you're joking cause otherwise I shall ban you from my memory banks.
      I meant interesting in a good way, not the way people use when they can't think of anything good to say. It is an opinion though.

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      But are you saying "I wouldn't call it music" as a good thing?
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      It's more sound than it is music. Not bad sound at all. Except when does sound become music? Or perhaps sound is music.

      If you're truly a psychedelic musical experimentor you should know what I'm talking about.


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      I fail to see the difference between sound and music. It seems like the kind of over-analytical, pseudo-intellectual thinking that has no real grounds within art. Music is sound, and sound is sound. Simple as that.

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      It's interesting stuff indeed.

      What I think ColdBlooded was trying to touch on was, it's lacking heart or emotion. While you are right in saying, sound is music and music is sound, I would say that music is full of conflicting emotions and feelings. And, when one starts to overproduce and experiment with sound with all sorts of effects like chopping, grinding, stuttering, etc... the original intent or emotion dies and becomes static and cold...

      I don't think anyone can explain drill n' bass or squarepusher-esque stuff as anything other than experimental sounds. While extremely interesting and trippy to listen to under the influence of certain chemicals, (hence names like, squarepusher *cough* lsd *cough*), it's extremely mechanical, metallic, dry, and cold.

      Without a melody a song isn't much of a song and would be more a cacophony of sound...

      Don't get me or CB wrong... I like it... it's some chill stuff...

      Anyway, nice to see another producer around! Keep it up!
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      I guess that's a matter of perspective. To me, music like Squarepusher or Venetian Sanres has plenty of emotion, just in a different way than a tune with a beaitufl melody. Industrialized music can be really gritty and dirty. It can have this angular quality that brings things out in you that you didn't realise were there. It can be driving and aggressive. It can conjure up wild scenes in your mind's eye. It can pump you up and excite you.

      But, as i said, it's obviously down to the person listening.

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      True, true... it's always about perspective...

      I definitely agree that it's not easy to make some of the layering for IDM. For me, there is one recent exception to the intelligent dance music genre, BT: This Binary Universe album, which had so many layers upon layers of stuff which was unbelievable. The fact he programmed the whole thing in dolby 5.1 was just overkill.

      This is one of my favorite songs on the album... The Antikythera Mechanism

      The main melody is killer and the way he cuts up the guitar wav into the melody at 3:55 is amazing... When he was doing the soundtrack for the movie stealth he had a orchestra he used for just a few parts of this song, too... He takes the entire orchestra and stutters the hell of out it at 7:55... As I said before, overkill...

      Anyway, I do listen to IDM, there is just a certain mood one has to be in to appreciate it.
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      I really have to stay out of the lounge...
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      Music is a collection of sound patterned to create melody and compliment of other sounds played at the same time. Music is sound pieced together with intent to create art.

      The music I make is intended to sound like thinking patterns while the mind is under influence of chemical balance and unbalance, whether it be drugs or just simply the chemicals our brains produce to create our moods, and also the mind while dreaming.

      So instead of listening to someone whine about their problems or go on about how great things are, IDM and the like creates the atmosphere you would feel inside during these moments. This makes the music much more personal and you can take away different things from the song on each listen.

      Ya Tarsier, I'm on both watmm and twoism. See you there
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ardent Lost View Post
      I fail to see the difference between sound and music. It seems like the kind of over-analytical, pseudo-intellectual thinking that has no real grounds within art. Music is sound, and sound is sound. Simple as that.
      Not really. Music has a definitive structure. Like a language, it has "letters" with which to make "words"; with which to make "sentences"; with which to make "phrases"; with which to tell a story. It communicates far more than just some random noise.

      Not that I'm saying what's been linked to is just random noise, I haven't bothered to listen to it, really. But it's your philosophy I strongly disagree with. Music is sound, yes, but it's not just sound. It's more than sound. Sound, however...is just sound.

      You've really got to make music an analogy to language to understand it. You can lump letters into incomprehensible words - and lump those words into equally incomprehensible sentences - all you want. But that still doesn't make it language, because it lacks structure and has no meaning. All is the same with music.

      Not to start an argument here or anything. I'm just saying, because I'm a musician, and have studied music theory, therefore, have realized how important it is for music to have defined structure.
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      I disagree
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      But, Lezen, you're describing a science. For me, music does not have to adhere to phrases at all. It does not need to follow any real structure. That kind of dumbs down what the purpose of music is - expression. Why should art be quelled by rules and conditions? I don't see why somebody has to compose music of certain timbre with this or that kind of structure in order to express themselves. There's no right or wrong way to create art.

      I'll run with your analogy of language. What kind of sounds does a person make when they are really angry? What sounds come out of their mouth when they are beating into someone out of rage? What about children playing in a park? Unstable people down alleyways late at night? I think that often the most expressive or telling sounds a person can make are not necessarily formed words, but grunts, giggles, or slurred ramblings. Words certainly have their place, but there are other forms of oral expression.

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      beautiful!
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