I hate society and want to live out of it, pleas provide me with help or opinions

Well to start if off

I hate society, I hate most humans i interact with. I hate authority and working for some one.

But i didn't opened this topic to rant about it because for the last 2 years i had an idea.

I want to live outside of society and learn the art of surviving without anything but a knife. I know that this may sounds strange but i think i will be fine i have read a lot of information regarding survival and i have been to the woods for 15 days without ever feeling bad about my decision. Also i do not care if i do not have any human being to interact with because i do not like most humans. I haven no problems with trapping rabbits killing them skin them and eat them afterward i have already done this before. I know how to find the true north without a compass and can make good warm shelters i can make fires with a bow or by other means.

now my question is Wat do you guys think about it and do you have any other things you would advise me on my journey, And do you have any other way to avoid society.

I am willing to explain my reasons for this in further detail if necessary. Also i am completely aware of the fact that i am risking my life an probable wont get any older then 50 but i don't mind being eaten by wolves because that is how nature is the same way i kill rabbits to eat.:banana:

btw i already discussed this with my family and they think its fine if i want to avoid society

Hey buddy. I think you need to see a therapist you seem to be suffering from some form of severe psychosis.

I have an old barn near my house, I can provide it for you. It will bring you shelter and warmth. The second story will also make it safer. I can bring you rations, water, magazines, and anything else you need up there daily. I might be able to get electricity in there so we can instant message each other throughout the day. I would be in no way above you by any means. I'm kidding, but therapy is a good place to get over people-phobia.

If you hate society and other humans so much, why do you care about our opinion?

Also, does your family not like you or something?

Also I hear the Siberian Wilderness is pretty remote. Just grab a banjo an uzi and some beef jerkey and you'd be set.

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Originally Posted by Irken

Hey buddy. I think you need to see a therapist you seem to be suffering from some form of severe psychosis.

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Haha

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Originally Posted by Mascot

I have an old barn near my house, I can provide it for you. It will bring you shelter and warmth. The second story will also make it safer. I can bring you rations, water, magazines, and anything else you need up there daily. I might be able to get electricity in there so we can instant message each other throughout the day. I would be in no way above you by any means. I'm kidding, but therapy is a good place to get over people-phobia.

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I was going to say, you won't charge any rent? :)

I grew up in the rocky mountain in colorado too, so it is pretty good place to live. it would get really boring after a while..You'd be like...Man i wouldn't mind getting online about now..

The winter will be your worst concern, not food or water. There are lots of ways to get water. Everyone talks about how old cities were built off of water sources. That's true. But the cultures and lifestyles of ancient civilizations were often based around the winter. Consider this above all else.

Flintnapping will be a useful skill. Hunting larger game will be... well... largely unsucessful in many global areas. Most, really. Even with modern rifles and little scent and blinds and vehicles most people who spend a couple weeks hunting for something like a deer won't suceed. So don't count on ever eating steak again. And I hope you like your own B.O. Without a band of even four or so people, I doubt you will have much lesiure time.

If I were you, I would bring an emergency kit that you fully intend never to open on your first long excursion. This will include some back up rations and ways to communicate with people. Honestly, offer yourself an out at least during your first year. In fact, if you do this, set it up in a way that if you achieved the existential experience that you wanted to achieve within the first year you can come back and not have your life totally screwed over. These are the things I would think about.

Seems we from Colorado have a lot to offer in this department...

I completely understand your longing. I hate society too, and am an extremely cynical and independent person outside of my wife. I have grappled with this idea, and plan to build a cabin in the woods and be self-sufficient as much as modern society will allow.

As for your request to live with only a knife, I would recommend going into the large tracts of undeveloped wilderness, which have been provided in large amounts by the US government, and just being. If you life without structures, no one will really ever see you. Make a bow and arrow, quietly hunt big game and grow lettuce until winter, and until the cold hunt unceasingly for a cave to take refuge in. Hide the smoke from your fire carefully.

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Originally Posted by Moonsong

Seems we from Colorado have a lot to offer in this department...

I completely understand your longing. I hate society too, and am an extremely cynical and independent person outside of my wife. I have grappled with this idea, and plan to build a cabin in the woods and be self-sufficient as much as modern society will allow.

As for your request to live with only a knife, I would recommend going into the large tracts of undeveloped wilderness, which have been provided in large amounts by the US government, and just being. If you life without structures, no one will really ever see you. Make a bow and arrow, quietly hunt big game and grow lettuce until winter, and until the cold hunt unceasingly for a cave to take refuge in. Hide the smoke from your fire carefully.

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See, I just don't think that the kind of bow he could make would really give him the opportunity to get much big game. He could sit a water hole for something, but I highly doubt a home made bow could hit kill zone from more than 20 yards. Even then, you will miss some of the time. And from 20 yards away, with how much you would smell without antiseptics and showers and body washes, animals are going to smell you. Animals can run a far distance even if they are lunged. And if the arrow doesn't come out the other side, there won't be much of a blood trail. You could kill your big game and then totally loose it.

Otherwise, this all sounds good. Of course I wouldn't pass up an opportunity to kill some big game. And who knows, you may get an antelope from time to time. Don't count on it. I have also considered doing this. But as a two week vacation to one month vacation, not as a life style.

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Originally Posted by Yahiko

now my question is Wat do you guys think about it and do you have any other things you would advise me on my journey, And do you have any other way to avoid society.

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Self-referential Fallacy, this is a society that you are asking help from. So, the question is, are you deliberately lying to yourself, or is your mind too foggy to actually put your real ambition into a logical format?

Oh, and I would not bring a knife with you, it is a product of social discourse--and a great deal of it, so you already cut yourself. Your only option is to seek medical attention.

Anyone know why this guy was banned?

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Originally Posted by Tyler

Anyone know why this guy was banned?

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Nope, but the mods allow discourse between members with a greater latitude, much much greater latitude, than upsetting some of them in the smallest thing. It is annoying. A lot like the governmental divide.

Whatever happened to that list where the reasons for people's bannage was listed? I am curious, because his posts don't seem inflammatory. Was it something in a PM or something?

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Whatever happened to that list where the reasons for people's bannage was listed? I am curious, because his posts don't seem inflammatory. Was it something in a PM or something?

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In some cases the list does not matter, in a lot of places there is the unwritten code which supercedes every other code. "It is MY TOY!" code,

I'm pretty sure he was banned for trolling. I doubt he ever really considered this but posted it for whatever reason just to get attention I guess.

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Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

Nope, but the mods allow discourse between members with a greater latitude, much much greater latitude, than upsetting some of them in the smallest thing. It is annoying. A lot like the governmental divide.

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I really, really dislike you.

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Originally Posted by Tyler

Anyone know why this guy was banned?

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a ban for 15 consecutive post of complete nonsense

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strange

You hate Society? Then what are doing on these forums? Especially one about Lucid Dreams. I hate people like you in the way you think your better than society. You tend to blame society for what you are. When in reality its your own damn fault. Crying out to others about how your going to exclude your self of society pretty lame and stupid. I've heard this story a thousand times and most I heard from were from psychopathic killers.

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Originally Posted by Tyler

I really, really dislike you.

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And that is unusual how? I already figured out you were normal some time ago.

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Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

And that is unusual how?

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It probably isn't.

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Originally Posted by Tyler

It probably isn't.

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You don't need the "probably" No need to flatter me.

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Originally Posted by Philosopher8659

You don't need the "probably" No need to flatter me.

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Speak for yourself.

I'm going through this with my son. He says he was born in the wrong era and wants to be away from the modern world.
But the boy's an idiot (which I've told him in nicer ways).

He's about 6 feet tall and 380 pounds (not muscle). He's 18 (just turned), dropped out of school, and spends all his time on video games and sleeping. He smokes.
I love the boy but trying to reason with him is impossible. He says no one understands him so he wont even bother trying to explain.
I tell him he has a good old fashion case of "wanderlust". I had it as a kid. I still have the yearning from time to time.

I'm all for living off the land as a hermit if that's what one truly wants. But make sure you have the skills, the HEALTH, the stamina and mental fortitude AND a back up plan before doing anything drastic.
Which is something my son doesn't understand. He thinks he can make his way across the world doing odd jobs. No home, no phone, no transportation, no baths... it's not likely he'd get hired even as a handyman or farmhand for some country folk.
And I'm in no position to rescue him if he fails.

my pops found me when i was lost Zhaylin, i mean i'm still an idiot but at least i know that now. :P there's always room for rescue

"He says he was born in the wrong era and wants to be away from the modern world."

I too feel like that at times. I've always thought I belonged to live in the year 4022 has Manger of All-Alien rock band group making millions while I get all the Groupie Alien Chicks. To bad it just a fantasy though...