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      Well, I know I am. Or I think I know I am. Or you think I said I think I know I am. Or do you?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hastur View Post
      Well, I know I am. Or I think I know I am. Or you think I said I think I know I am. Or do you?
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      It's good that we've established common ground.

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      Have you played assasins creed before? Are the templars or the knights templar from that game representitive of the illuminati or free masons?? and would you say there really is a secret society of assassins that are working to save mankind from the illuminatis evil plans??
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      Quote Originally Posted by lawilahd View Post
      Have you played assasins creed before? Are the templars or the knights templar from that game representitive of the illuminati or free masons?? and would you say there really is a secret society of assassins that are working to save mankind from the illuminatis evil plans??
      Luls not in the way they show them in Assassin's Creed. The Knights Templar, much like many other secret societies working before the Enlightenment, were attempting to preserve truth that went against the Church. After the control of the Catholic Church fell due to the Protestants, it was work from groups like Knights Templar, Free Masons and the Rosicrucians that these ideas were able to be preserved. Sir Francis Bacon, for instance, who had ties to both the bible and the Rosicrucians, is thought to have influenced the King James Bible with symbolic ideas oppressed by the Church.

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      I'd like to add I believe I understand why we are flooded with Illuminati images. This is just speculation, mind you, but I believe this imagery is meant to condition our unconscious minds into believing what these symbols insinuate. This is contradictory to my original attitude in this thread but hey, if it were one way or the other the topic wouldn't be so fascinating.

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      I am free for more questions.
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      Apparently Micheal Jackson got killed by the illuminati. And some people think that the illuminati are actually reptilians? What's your opinion about that?
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      They are not reptilians, one has to remember that the world is full of secret societies and the illuminati are not the only ones, simply one of the more powerful ones of european/middle eastern origin. They are also known as the Brotherhood of the Red Dragon. They are at war with another Brotherhood, that of the Yellow Dragon, but this battle is more East vs West than good vs evil. They rival each other because for humanity to evolve it needs a polarity process. Eventually they will probably negotiate and form one, single secret society.

      One has to remember that a secret society does not control the world any better than a mafia, financial institution or a banking cartel. They have influence, that's as far as it goes. Humanity can choose to give into any influence it wants.
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      What exactly are they trying to achieve?
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      They currently wish to maintain power over humanity by keeping humanity ignorant of their true power. To an extent they do this to protect humanity from itself because humanity is not really ready to wield their true power. However considering the amount of technology they keep repressed (to keep humanity dependent on things such as fossil fuels) it's hard to argue that they with-hold power from us primarily for our own protection.

      They are essentially moving toward complete enslavement of mankind, and their means of obtaining this control is by controlling our money, energy and food. The last necessary pillar is control over food, which is why Monsanto is making such bold moves of control.

      It's been insinuated that they wish to depopulate the planet. If they do, only the highest echelon of the Brotherhood knows about it. It would make sense that they believe there are too many people and it would be unsustainable to keep such a large population but it's unclear if even they know how they plan to go about this. They have incremented some insidious sterilization plans, have shown evidence of weather control, and have built several underground cities where they keep their lineage as well as some of the brightest minds they can come across. It may be their goal to set up a time released pandemic after shutting themselves inside their underground cities. It's also possible they're planning something even more insidious. However, evidence beyond this is... flaky. Like I said, whatever they're planning beyond control of the food supply at this time is not widely known.

      It is also widely believed that the Illuminati is behind the Military Industrial Complex and America's perpetual state of warfare. Deemed Operation Blue Beam, a series of false flag operations since the 1970s have been orchestrated in order to maintain popular consent of a massive amount of spending on military technology in order to place the United States in a permanent position of military dominance. The first target, obviously, was the Russians, and the cold war was mostly manufactured in order to develop the Star Wars defense program. Following this, terrorists became the new target and 9/11 was orchestrated to create stronger motivation for perpetual warfare in the middle east. Blow-back is no accident, the Illuminati has been planning to instigate the middle east into committing acts of terror since the inception of Project Blue Beam.

      The next target von Braun hinted at was asteroids, but we won't be moving toward this target until Americans grow weary of perpetual warfare against terrorists. The false flag operation will likely be very, very difficult to manufacture as von Braun did not foresee the coming of the internet and shared information. They may choose to skip this step altogether, and go straight to faking a UFO invasion. It's difficult to predict the future, and it seems outrageous that they would plan a false flag event to such a great scale, but so far this prediction has come true.

      Finally, if you really do the research, you'll fall even further down the rabbit hole and see the experiments they're doing on reality itself. This information is very, very dubious and different depending on which crazy person you ask, it's all muddled up with the ascension stuff and the fifth dimension. Alex Jones has claimed (gripped by what I would describe as utter lunacy) that DMT was purposely released into the population because the Illuminati believes it helps them build a gateway to the dimension you visit when on DMT. I for one do not agree with his conclusions, because he's a megalomanic dick that jumps to conclusions and I have trouble forming conclusions at all. But I will say that I do believe the rabbit hole does, in fact, go this far. But once you start to research things on this level, the whole game changes.
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      Wow, these are pretty bold claims.
      What are your sources for finding this information? You'll have to excuse me, but I find it hard to fully trust and accept what an anonymous guy on the Internet has to say.

      Another unrelated question:
      How would you go about joining such a group? I am a psychopath, so I think I can be able to lie my way in if it's possible.

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      There are various websites devoted to revealing their tactics and technology. None of this, of course, comes from "reputable" sources. I honestly can't easily recall and source every specific theory I've read. You're welcome to google Project Blue Beam or depopulation conspiracy theories and will likely find the same information.

      One way to join the Illuminati is to go to Harvard and join Skull & Bones. This obviously will not mean you're in the Illuminati but both the Brotherhood and CIA recruit directly from secret societies such as that one. There are various other secret societies and other IV league schools you can join as well. From there, you just have to excel well enough to get noticed.

      Some people believe there's a collusion between the Brotherhood and the Freemasons so perhaps if you ascend to a high enough masonic degree you could also join the Illuminati but I'm doubtful of the significance of this collusion. I think it's more like vatican and the mafia. The vatican uses the mafia for certain tasks because they don't want to dirty their hands but a mobster has little chance of becoming a cardinal.

      Joining the Illuminati is not exactly self beneficial anyways. They're most concerned with their own legacies, meaning their own families, so if your family is not in the highest echelon you will never be more than a peon to them.
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      Can you name factions and individuals?

      The gist of what I've gathered is the Rothschild banking family in Europe, with the Rockefeller and Bushes over in North America. The terms Zionists and Sabbateans get thrown around a lot as well.

      Can you specify as to how these and other factions/families tie together, with their general histories and how they are in play now on the world stage?

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      So, joining them will likely not give me access to all their information.
      Are there any organizations that work against the Illuminati? I would like to learn everything they know, and take action in stead of sitting on my hands discussing what is going to happen.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil Toad View Post
      Can you name factions and individuals?

      The gist of what I've gathered is the Rothschild banking family in Europe, with the Rockefeller and Bushes over in North America. The terms Zionists and Sabbateans get thrown around a lot as well.

      Can you specify as to how these and other factions/families tie together, with their general histories and how they are in play now on the world stage?
      The anti-zionism and anti-sabbatean shit comes from bigots who think the jews are behind everything. There are extremists in every religion, and in reality the original goal of the free masons was to liberate the world from this kind of extremism so if anything, the free masons and zionists are at odds. Granted lately the free masons have used infiltration. For instance, it's quite probable that they infiltrated the vatican (look up conspiracy theories related to the assassination of pope John Paul I). Granted, there's not tons of evidence linking the free masons to the Illuminati. In fact, there's essentially no evidence at all that the Illuminati exists other than self-declared former Illuminati whistle blowers. And this isn't exactly trustworthy. While it's fun to play with theories, it's generally unwise to give specific names because then you're taking conjecture and bringing it to reality, and that can mean consequences (consequences Alex Jones would know nothing about even though he influenced the terror attack in Boston).

      The Banking Families are the most typically targeted names of the Illuminati. However it's unclear exactly what level of power they hold, if the secret society does actually exist. The most powerful and still surviving families in the West are the Rothschilds, Morgans, Rockefellers, Mellons and Warburgs. It is assumed that these families are competitors, and I agree with this assumption. However even competitors will come together if anyone tries to change the rules of their game.

      Apart from the Banking Families there's also the Mafia and the Vatican and the families which belong to them. The mafia has historically done the dirty work for both the Vatican and Banking Cartels (such as the assassination of JFK and Abraham Lincoln).

      Finally, and probably most notably, there's the Jekyll Island Club. Now it's unclear whether greedy individuals were being manipulated and eventually cut out of the action that was planned on this fateful island, but what is known is that 53 individuals were present for the conspiracy to create the Federal Reserve. If any hard evidence of a conspiracy to enslave humanity were to exist, it would be the goings-on of this club. You can read more about it here: Jekyll Island Club - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      The second goal, after control of the money, is control of the energy. It is therefore presumable that the families which own the Supermajors (Supermajor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) are also in on the action. The final task for enslavement is control of the food supply, meaning corporate farms like Dole are probably connected, as well as companies attempting to copyright food like Monsanto. Granted, it's all need to know, but considering Hugh Grant's (Monsanto's CEO) open interest in replacing the ecosphere, he must at least have some type of world domination ambition.

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      So, joining them will likely not give me access to all their information.
      Are there any organizations that work against the Illuminati? I would like to learn everything they know, and take action in stead of sitting on my hands discussing what is going to happen.
      Well sort of. There's the Luminari but this is just the East's version of the Illuminati. This is where I am forced to communicate channelled information regarding ancient civilizations, the pyramids, etc. The gist of it is that the two factions vie for control over the planet and have so since we descended into polarity. It's also been said that when the struggle is over we will move from a bipolar planet to a unipolar one. I'm not sure if I buy any of this.

      The real challenge is for humanity to grow beyond the need of this power structure. If we are to succeed in liberating ourselves, it will be from each of us individually realizing our power. For this, there are plenty of groups out there trying to teach humanity their true power. Joining a group like this first comes through wisdom. It is said when you are ready for the lesson, the master will appear.
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      This is an interesting perspective:

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      Quote Originally Posted by Original Poster View Post
      The anti-zionism and anti-sabbatean shit comes from bigots who think the jews are behind everything.
      My understanding is very superficial. What I surmised about others' thinking about the subject was that Zionism as a movement and Israel as a state was/is largely created and sponsored by these banking families in order to basically get a foothold in the middle east. The state of Israel acts like a military outpost in the area, where it is fed weapons and resources from the industrial powerhouse of the U.S. This is part of a plan to gain control of that region which has been, historically, outside "illuminati" influence. Thus Zionism as a movement serves the goal of uniting mass opinion towards creating and maintaining the strategically important Israel. While many of these banking family members are Jewish, they don't care about the average Jew any more than they care about the average African.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil Toad View Post
      My understanding is very superficial. What I surmised about others' thinking about the subject was that Zionism as a movement and Israel as a state was/is largely created and sponsored by these banking families in order to basically get a foothold in the middle east. The state of Israel acts like a military outpost in the area, where it is fed weapons and resources from the industrial powerhouse of the U.S. This is part of a plan to gain control of that region which has been, historically, outside "illuminati" influence. Thus Zionism as a movement serves the goal of uniting mass opinion towards creating and maintaining the strategically important Israel. While many of these banking family members are Jewish, they don't care about the average Jew any more than they care about the average African.
      Religion is a suitable tool, yes.

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      So why do you believe in the Illuminati in the first place, and why should anyone believe that they exist? What your saying makes as much sense as a conspiracy on this level is capable, so kudos to you. No sarcasm there.
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      I used to be really into conspiracy theories, but I'm generally more skeptical now, so they don't interest me as much anymore. I actually think the Illuminati symbolism that is supposedly everywhere may actually be there as jokes, like someone making a movie might go, "Let's put a bunch of Illuminati symbolism in the movie and see how many whackjobs notice it."
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      In abstract terms, I guess, if society is progressing in one force, is this an opposing force that stabilizes it? Much like the forces keeping things afloat with buoyancy-- the illuminati's actions acting as the force opposing the gravity that sinks the ship, or vice versa. If this is a totally inaccurate picture of what's going on with this, then disregard me

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      Weell - Iīm new to this forum and donīt know you guys yet - but I would have offered eating my bedpost front left side, if Original Poster actually meant all this seriously..
      Not bad, not bad at all, OP - I take this offer back and am not so sure about it anymore..!?

      Anyway - to all those who like the Sagan clip - the original 19th century book "Flatland" is such a lovely read - I can only warmly recommend it.
      Couldnīt believe that it is that old, when I got a copy as a present - the style is so fresh and modern.

      It can be had for free over the Gutenberg Project - albeit without illustrations - really worth a read - besides being about dimensions it is a spicy satire about society at that time - hilarious - really:

      Flatland by Edwin A. Abbott

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      Quote Originally Posted by CNGB View Post
      So why do you believe in the Illuminati in the first place, and why should anyone believe that they exist? What your saying makes as much sense as a conspiracy on this level is capable, so kudos to you. No sarcasm there.
      Because I'm a member BUAH HA HA HA HA

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      I used to be really into conspiracy theories, but I'm generally more skeptical now, so they don't interest me as much anymore. I actually think the Illuminati symbolism that is supposedly everywhere may actually be there as jokes, like someone making a movie might go, "Let's put a bunch of Illuminati symbolism in the movie and see how many whackjobs notice it."
      Like any marketing brand, the purpose is to saturate the unconscious mind with the symbol. You're not supposed to cognitively pay attention to it. It just needs to be everywhere so you unconsciously pick up on it on a constant basis. These symbols are meant to condition the unconscious mind into think that it's both powerless and under constant surveillance.

      Free masons, of course, also throw their symbols up everywhere as little secret high fives to other free masons. When a city has an obelisk, it reveals that city was under masonic control at one time or another. Granted, Masonic Lodges are largely independent and their level of corruption and conspiracy vary from one to the next. So while in Italy there's this crazy creepy collusion going on between the mafia, vatican and free masons, that's an independent anomaly. Local elections in states like Virginia are also typically rigged by the free masons. Opposing parties meet behind closed doors to discuss what they're going to do no matter who wins, and often have masonic ties.

      Quote Originally Posted by Spenner View Post
      In abstract terms, I guess, if society is progressing in one force, is this an opposing force that stabilizes it? Much like the forces keeping things afloat with buoyancy-- the illuminati's actions acting as the force opposing the gravity that sinks the ship, or vice versa. If this is a totally inaccurate picture of what's going on with this, then disregard me
      I'd say you're starting to get it. There's no point in flipping out about this shit, it's a necessary evolutionary process and has been prophesied many, many times. Fretting over it is like the Gospel of Judas where Judas frets about what Jesus orders him to do. It's simply the way things must work out. If you believe in karma, worry not over the evils certain people supposedly get away with. They really don't. Poetic justice does exist in the universe. It's often very, very cruel and meaningless from our naive perspective.

      Quote Originally Posted by StephL View Post
      Weell - Iīm new to this forum and donīt know you guys yet - but I would have offered eating my bedpost front left side, if Original Poster actually meant all this seriously..
      Not bad, not bad at all, OP - I take this offer back and am not so sure about it anymore..!?

      Anyway - to all those who like the Sagan clip - the original 19th century book "Flatland" is such a lovely read - I can only warmly recommend it.
      Couldnīt believe that it is that old, when I got a copy as a present - the style is so fresh and modern.

      It can be had for free over the Gutenberg Project - albeit without illustrations - really worth a read - besides being about dimensions it is a spicy satire about society at that time - hilarious - really:

      Flatland by Edwin A. Abbott
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