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      Ask me about astrology

      I'm not one to believe something just because of a few lucky guesses so when my natal chart explained me to me in detail I decided it was time to learn about this art of observing heavenly bodies and their relationships to see what truth, if any, there could be.

      This is not a thread to debate any truth there may be to astrology, but rather for people interested to get indepth readings so I can test my own accuracy, or for those that would like to know how it works and what my theories are to prod me. If you don't believe in astrology then the most you can do is follow directions and watch as I describe things that aren't true about you.

      That being said, I just need your date, time and place of birth and I'll do my best to make a profile.

      Astrology can't help you predict the future or stay a few steps ahead of your life. It can only provide opportunity for you to grow if you choose to.

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Im definetely interested in this.
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      I'm doing Xox now, this is your official post xox so I'll include what I have the energy to write now and then add to it later.

      First of all I'm sure you knew your suns sign was aquarius, the indepedent, free-willed sign. However where the sun is in your chat expresses more about what you aspire to be than what you actually are. Each planet rules its own aspect of your personality.

      Anyway its also in conjunction with Saturn, the planet of responsibility, and Mercury, the planet of how you reason and learn things. Conjunction basically means they're close together, in the same sign and house, meaning they help empower each other.

      Read the below considering that not only is this relationship modified by aquarius but that it sits in your 11th house. This means the effect this relationship has is drectly upon the way you socialize and make friends, and what you hope to gain from your relationships.

      Astrology aspects - Mercury conjunct Saturn: The conjunction of Mercury to Saturn shows that you are responsible, contemplative, and serious, partly because of your early training. You solve problems logically and waste little time with superficial matters. A veritable storehouse of information, you extract something meaningful from every experience. You are a good listener and cautious about voicing your own opinions in conversation. Rather than induge in fanciful dreams, you prefer to apply yourself to goals that are well within your reach. You are sometimes pessimistic and may become severely depressed when you face reversals.

      As you tend to be a loner, you will work better if you can set your own pace. Generally you would rather work alone because you are irritated by distraction from associates. Your employer will always get his money's' worth because you are honest and sincere and insist on fulfilling your part of the contract. You don't expect to get something for nothing.

      Though you are intellectuatlly capable and reasonably ambitious, recognition of your abilities may be delayed or overshadowed by your gregarious competitors. Be especially careful not to let your co-workers pick your brains; you are so eager to demonstrate how things should be done that you unwittingly divulge information that you should keep in reserve. However, don't be afraid to speak up when you have a good idea. If you are shy, get someone you trust to present it for you.

      Because of your air of indifference, people may think that you are not interested in social contacts. Actually, you are usually engrossed in deep thought triggered by something said earlier. You may be absent-minded at times. Even in a large gathering, you may become so dissociated that others do not realize you are there; nor do you.

      You need to be able to confide in someone close to you whom you can trust. Your romantic interests are stimulated by a person who is mature, honest, sincere, and responsible. Tradition and custom represent security to you, and you respect them. Your religious beliefs are probably the same as your parents' and reflect your childhood training. You resist change unless it can be proven to be an improvement over the past.

      Unless you take time to unwind often, you will invite tension. Take frequent 'little vacations' and just waste time doing nothing productive. Try to look at the bright side and learn to laugh at your own mistakes. It is essential to avoid becoming morbidly obsessed with the big, important issues.
      Another conjunction that looks interesting is your moon and your uranus. They're both in Capricorn which means they're modifed by a sense of self determination and tenacity. Furthermore they're both in your tenth house which means they most strongly reflect your career path. Not the job you do day in and day out, that's the 4th house (or was it 6th house?) Anyway keep the following quote in mind for your career and also keep in mind its off-set a little by a sense of self determination.

      All Moon-Uranus aspects indicate posible personality conflict based in the clash between established behaviour patterns (symbolized by the Moon) and the progressive but disruptive energy of Uranus. While this conflict can spread throughout the psyche, the Moon's affinity is to feelings and emotions, and Uranus's is toward impersonality, abstraction, and intellect. This can create duality and friction between 'head and heart', which may be difficult to resolve.

      Emotionally, you may experience regular mood changes and erratic, contradictory feelings, appearing to others as unpredictable, unreliable, impulsive, or lacking in commitment and responsibility. Lunar energies fluctuate, ebb and flow; and joining these with Uranus is not conducive to a stable and controllable inner life. You will find that your 'inner bias' moves between either lunar dominance or Uranus dominance; only occasionally will it rest at a balance uniting both. However, when 'head and heart' are in accord, this is the ideal state, and achieving this should be an objective more regularly.

      You look for the unusual and the exciting in life. Strangeness and novelty intrigue and attract you; and this influences your intimate relationship choices. Your Moon will demand the experience of intense emotions; and Uranus will expect fascinating and excitement to bewitch the mind. The problem is finding both evoked by one partner, and not fading away with familiarity, or soon you will be looking for someone new.

      Relationships are likely to be varied and cosmopolitan, ranging across different personality types; and you may find difficulty determining which type suits you the most over the long term. You are often attracted to unsuitable types, or to those who pose some sort of challenge, which you find adds extra interest.

      Much depends on how you succeed in 'balancing' the innate conflict between a need for secure foundations and a fascination with novelty and free experimentation. The Moon could dominate, possibly by the inner imposition of restrictions, or inhibiting desires for new experiences and freedom. This could eventually result in the frustration of unlived dreams. Or Uranus could draw you toward excess, where roots and stability are lost in pursuing new and unexplored experiences, irrespective of personal cost.

      Your life could be rich with interesting social acquaintances; your direct, open expression, coupled with intellectual analysis, realism, and personal tolerance, can attract many who find your company stimulating and rewarding. As you often reflect on both sides of an issue - evading a commitment to choose sides and become partisan - you can act as a diplomatic foil between adversaries, as well as retaining friendship and contact.

      You may eventually prefer to live independently, choosing not to be restricted to one partner, allowing yourself freedom to change as you will. This can result from an inability to stay committed and interested within a traditional relationship or through problems partly created by your emotional shifts and moods, where, in the midst of confusion, you insist on your right to be self-determining, even if you have no clear idea of what it is you actually want.
      So, these are really just two relationship, from here I will make observations and draw quotes based on the questions you may want to ask, be it about your career, your life mission, your relationships or whatever.

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      Paperdoll's post:

      Like me your sun is in capricorn meaning you aspire to be tenacious and practical but appear to be reserved to other people despite a very flamboyant inner nature.

      Your moon is in Aquarius which off-sets such reservations considerably. It makes your emotional side more modern, inventive and non-conformist.

      Anyway I want to skip to relationships between the planets.

      Your sun is trine jupiter. Your sun is in the first house 9which represents selfhood, and I can't really summarize it for you cause I don't understand how all its rulerships fit together) and your jupiter is in the fifth house (the sex house, in a nutshell, though its also creative forces and such)

      So take the following as a representative of how your sense of who you are in comparison to other people relates with your sexual relationships:

      There is an indication your life is protected or guided, or that luck will lead you to good fortune. However you challenged to us your talents and abilities if you want to activate this inner blessing. The trine allows energy to flow easily inclining you to relax into a comfortable lifestyle. It appears as though life may not naturally provide experiences for you to grow and develop there is a degree of conscious effort needed to stimulate such processes.

      The issue which may require confronting is that of application and use of resources. You are intelligent and reasonably articulate, but how far do you intend to actually apply that intelligence, and in what directions? Are there ways to exert yourself more that offer greater life fulfllment, but do not either compromise your philosophical ideals or demand that you enter a competitive rat-race situation? Are there opportunities within areas that may interest you - like medicine, law, writing, education, study, the community, communication - through which you could grow, expanding your potential without constraining your freedom too much? How could your enjoyment of study, knowledge and inner contemplation be used to create a compatible career? Or could this be linked to an ability to see future trends, perhaps as a 'future analyst' and a predictive social commentator in some capacity? Discovering alternative ways to perceive the uses of talents, qualities and interests can be crucial in forming uniquely individual life paths, and yet often there is a lack of social encouragement to learnthe means and techniques of achieving these. You have the responsibility to determine your own degree of ambition and effort, but look first to see if an alternative path could open for you by a shift of perception and self-evaluation.

      Your social relationships can be quite varied, and your level of tolerance is high, preferring to open to people, accepting them as they are, and not imposing expectations on them to conform to any inwardly preconceived impressions. You can enjoy the vitality and fresh minds of children, and skills in this direction could be usefully applied, providing you are not seeking to evade challenges and growth in other areas. You prefer simplicity in life, and may not be too attracted to people who offer greater intellectual challenges and complexity. It isn't that you cannot cope with them, but it's the effort that you may resist.

      You will look for a high-quality partner, one who also has their own moral standards in life and posseses a compatible philosophy to your own. Pracitcal abilities will be prized, as will stability of personality and genuine tolerance and understanding; your partner will be someone with whom you can easily relax and enjoy life, and ideally one who will also stimulate you rather than stultify you.
      Now I know you're spiritually inclined which is the 12th houses area of rulership so I'm going to examine so possible relationships related to that.

      First of all its in Sagittarius, which is not very good, but not all bad. In summary it means you could face problems with foreignors, perhaps even exile.

      Both your venus and uranus are in the 12th house. That means no only is the way you preceive the world spiritually inclined but it's also the focus of whatever part of you chooses not to conform to society.

      Keep in mind the twelvth house is also termed the House of the Hangover, atonement and charity as it is where one faces the repercussions of actions from past lives. Don't worry if its empowered though, Personally My Uranus, Neptune, Sun and Saturn are all in the 12th house.

      So let's see what relationships your venus and uranus have.

      Firstly they're both trine mars meaning they flow easily into your sense of action. That seems so important I'm going to grab another quote or two. (Oh yeah and your Mars is in your 4th house)

      Venus Trine Mars:

      Affectionate, pleasure-loving, and passionate, you have an intense approach to life that lasts well into middle age and sometimes longer. You have a great deal of warmth, which attracts others to you.

      You have an enthusiasm for romance and sex that other people find attractive. You like to be with the opposite sex and show it. They, in turn, like you for being yourself and not playing games with them.

      Your relationships should be good. Your sex life should also be good. Not that this aspect is a guarantee of romantic success - there can still be an unhappy love affair or two - but it's certainly a plus, and can help offset other stressful romantic aspects you might have.

      One thing with this aspect that could need watching is the fact that you tend to be susceptible to flattery. While you don't play games with other people's affections yourself, you're a bit vulnerable to being caught up in other people's games, simply because you mean what you say and therefore assume others also mean what they say. If there are problems in your love life, it could be a sign that a little more discrimination is needed.

      If you have Venus trine Mars by sign but not by aspect, the foregoing would apply to you to a lesser degree. You might not be quite as averse to playing games as those with the trine aspect, though.
      Sucks that its in the house of atonement, doesn't it?

      Furthermore:

      With the trine, the Mars and Uranus energies should be reconciled and capable of working well together. in several respects there is similarity with the sextile, although there will be less emphasis upon the level of mind as a dominating factor.

      There will be a multiplicity of interests and fascinating areas of knowledge that will attract you; and you wlil demand that you have sufficient freedom to be able to explore them. Building upon the results of your studies and skills that you have developed, you will feel attracted towards ways of creativity which demonstrate your capacity for self-expression. Being creative is important to you; and once stimulated you may have the problem of choosing what idea to work with out of the many that appeal to you. Discipline can be necessary at such a point, once you decide to follow a creative project, so that you succeed in completing it, before diverting yourself into others.

      Independence seems necessary for you; and that impatient, restless nature often makes you soon tire of any enclosing intimate relationships. You need a broader scope, with the stimulation of more people to offer more expansive horizons. Group involvements can help to satisfy such needs, as well as providing a focus for your energies. Potentially, you can become a leader of such groups; but if you do so, you may find that your independence becomes constrained and the accompanying duties and responsibilities are onerous. Organisational routines and predictability would limit your freedom - which you would hate. A routine life and employment will not suit you. A greater degree of mobility and choice of activity can be aimed towards building a lifestyle that satisfies your needs, rather than frustrating them. Otherwise, those nervous tensions wil grow, and can lead to psychosomatic illness.

      If your creative spirit is released, and you enter into a less conventional life, you will find that more unorthodox relationships are appropriate and liberating. A traditional marriage may feel limiting, assuming that this tends to imply a traditional lifestyle as well. Under social pressures to conform, people often find that they are being forced to live in certain ways that are inimical to their natural needs and desires as evolving individuals. Nonconformism is usually penalised, and demands a strong personality to oppose these pressures and so create a life that is appropriate for them. Most societies favour a predictable 'greyness' of population, rather than welcomeing a multi-coloured richness that is harder to control.
      Okay I haven't even touched your career so let's at least take a glance.

      *Glances*

      There are no planets in your tenth house. Furthermore your signs are at a weird angle so it appears that no sign is particularly committed to your career either. Anyway, if you'd like to know more at this point I'll want specific questions.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      It appears as though life may not naturally provide experiences for you to grow and develop there is a degree of conscious effort needed to stimulate such processes.
      yeah, I've always had a lot of freedom :|

      You can enjoy the vitality and fresh minds of children, and skills in this direction could be usefully applied, providing you are not seeking to evade challenges and growth in other areas.
      no, no, no, no. this couldn't be further from the truth. I don't like children. I don't like being around them and I certainly cannot work with them. my own childhood freaks me out.

      You prefer simplicity in life, and may not be too attracted to people who offer greater intellectual challenges and complexity. It isn't that you cannot cope with them, but it's the effort that you may resist.
      actually, I do not accept the superficial. I always dig deep into everything I do or study. everything. and I want to be around people that are smarter than me, people that are intellectually challenging.

      First of all its in Sagittarius, which is not very good, but not all bad. In summary it means you could face problems with foreignors, perhaps even exile.
      what? that doesn't sound good. could you elaborate?

      Affectionate, pleasure-loving, and passionate, you have an intense approach to life that lasts well into middle age and sometimes longer. You have a great deal of warmth, which attracts others to you.
      intense? I think it's more like neurotic and apprehensive, to be brutally honest with myself. I'm working on my self-confidence and I think I'm making progress, slowly but surely...but...an intense approach to life? not by any stretch. I sit back and quietly observe and analyze and hardly get involved.

      as far as having a great deal of "warmth" that "attracts others to [me]"...I just have to laugh at that. I think better words to describe my presence, when around people I don't know, are "brooding" and/or "awkward". either intimidatingly quiet and "dark" or (more often) excessively timid. either way, I tend to make people uncomfortable.

      You have an enthusiasm for romance and sex that other people find attractive. You like to be with the opposite sex and show it. They, in turn, like you for being yourself and not playing games with them.
      this is by far the funniest part. in addition to being gay, I'm pretty much asexual. as for the rest on relationships, I have only had two relationships in my life, if you count the first one that was in the 2nd or 3rd grade that lasted a whole week (maybe two). then at 13 I got into a relationship that lasted 4 years, and I barely remember any of it. which I find perplexing, since I'm 18. anyway my point is, I have no sex life, no love life, and I don't really care. I mean sure it might be nice to have someone right now, or in the near future. I do think about it. but it is not a major priority in my life.

      I have no social life. I was homeschooled since the 4th grade, and I've only had a handful of friends my whole life. I don't know how to relate to people. I barely talk to anyone ever (until recently anyway), and when I do I get very uncomfortable and feel awkward. I'm working on it. but to say all that about my social life is complete bullshit.

      the next few paragraphs seem accurate. I'm one of those ADD types.

      There are no planets in your tenth house. Furthermore your signs are at a weird angle so it appears that no sign is particularly committed to your career either. Anyway, if you'd like to know more at this point I'll want specific questions.
      haha. actually I'm trying to get a job.

      ok, so about half of all that seemed accurate. but what about the parts about my sex/love life? and children? way off. was that just...a misreading on your part?

      I'm totally open to this, I don't want you to think I've come into it with the intention of shooting it down. I don't know the fist thing about astrology.


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      First off I'd like ot say thanks for doing this Deus. I'm really interested in Astrology and all. It was a very interesting read.

      Astrology aspects - Mercury conjunct Saturn: The conjunction of Mercury to Saturn shows that you are responsible, contemplative, and serious, partly because of your early training
      True, although I dont think I am really that responsible. And, can you define "early training"? I know what you mean, but wondered what the astrological view has to say.

      You are a good listener and cautious about voicing your own opinions in conversation.
      I agree.

      Rather than induge in fanciful dreams, you prefer to apply yourself to goals that are well within your reach
      I only wish this was true. Actually the opposite is true. I prefer to indulge in fanciful dreams more.


      You are sometimes pessimistic
      Unfortunately. BUt only sometimes


      As you tend to be a loner, you will work better if you can set your own pace. Generally you would rather work alone because you are irritated by distraction from associates. Your employer will always get his money's' worth because you are honest and sincere and insist on fulfilling your part of the contract. You don't expect to get something for nothing.
      Everything in here is true. I can only work alone. I hate working with people, things are just easier done when Im alone.

      you are so eager to demonstrate how things should be done that you unwittingly divulge information that you should keep in reserve
      Thanks for that advice, but I don't think I'll ever make that mistake. hah

      If you are shy, get someone you trust to present it for you.
      I am , but getting over it.

      You need to be able to confide in someone close to you whom you can trust. Your romantic interests are stimulated by a person who is mature, honest, sincere, and responsible. Tradition and custom represent security to you, and you respect them. Your religious beliefs are probably the same as your parents' and reflect your childhood training. You resist change unless it can be proven to be an improvement over the past.

      All pretty much true. Only, I'm not the confide type. I prefer keeping everything to myself = P. I am attracted to mature people of course. Immature people annoy me, nothing is worse than that haha. But the rest of the traits you stated seem to not be present in the people Ive been intimate with. (unfortunately) Anyway to improve that?
      It's all right about the tradition and religion thing. And yes I hate, hate, HATE changes.


      Take frequent 'little vacations' and just waste time doing nothing productive.
      Trust me I do that! haha

      Try to look at the bright side and learn to laugh at your own mistakes. It is essential to avoid becoming morbidly obsessed with the big, important issues.
      Easier said than done. :/ I wish ....


      This can create duality and friction between 'head and heart', which may be difficult to resolve.
      I think it already has, as far as careers are concerned.

      Emotionally, you may experience regular mood changes and erratic, contradictory feelings, appearing to others as unpredictable, unreliable, impulsive, or lacking in commitment and responsibility
      Now this is more like me. :/

      You look for the unusual and the exciting in life. Strangeness and novelty intrigue and attract you; and this influences your intimate relationship choices. Your Moon will demand the experience of intense emotions; and Uranus will expect fascinating and excitement to bewitch the mind. The problem is finding both evoked by one partner, and not fading away with familiarity, or soon you will be looking for someone new.
      All true, again. I grow tired of people amazingly quick. This has resulted to be a problem. but, Im okay with it. I assume people are too boring, and I'll meet someone interesting someday. :S


      You are often attracted to unsuitable types, or to those who pose some sort of challenge, which you find adds extra interest.
      Ha, this is me, true true.

      The Moon could dominate, possibly by the inner imposition of restrictions, or inhibiting desires for new experiences and freedom. This could eventually result in the frustration of unlived dreams.
      I hope not O_O

      You may eventually prefer to live independently, choosing not to be restricted to one partner, allowing yourself freedom to change as you will. This can result from an inability to stay committed and interested within a traditional relationship or through problems partly created by your emotional shifts and moods, where, in the midst of confusion, you insist on your right to be self-determining, even if you have no clear idea of what it is you actually want
      Yeah yeah, independant me. I plan to live alone and dont plan to marry. lol, Is there anything i can do to change this?
      And, I do prefer my decisions, even if they are wrong. lol

      So, these are really just two relationship, from here I will make observations and draw quotes based on the questions you may want to ask, be it about your career, your life mission, your relationships or whatever.
      Yeah, I appreciate you doing this. I'm really interested to see if theres anything else you can tell me.

      And, I stated all the question I had.

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      Ohh I LOVE astrology!!!

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      I'm not defending astorlogy, however one explanation for incongruencies is that people are made up of many contraditocry aspects. I was drawing quotes that specifically talked about relationships between planets, and it talks about aspects in all possible areas even though this relationship only exists in a couple of houses and therefore only rules a couple of areas in your life. They're also altered by the sign those planets are in.

      I'll get on you two, eventually.

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      Hmm... I've had my birthchart done and interpreted it myself before, but this could be interesting.

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      Okay I'll do you guys but first this spot is to answer some questions.

      So Firstly Xox you wanted some more information so I'm just going to give you your entire list.

      Your sun, saturn and mercury are all in Aquarius. Furthermore your Saturn has just a little over 1 degree to trek into the 12th house while your sun is just one degree into the 12th house.

      Firstly, locations:
      Sun - Aquarius - 12th house
      Moon - Capricorn - 11th house
      Mercury - Aquarius - 11th house
      Venus - Capricorn - Midheaven
      Mars - Capricorn - Mars 11th House
      Jupiter - Virgo - 6th house
      Saturn - Aquarius - 11th house
      Uranus - Capricorn - Midheaven
      Neptune - Capricorn - 11th house
      Pluto - Scorpio - 8th house
      Lilith - Aquarius -11th house

      Basically the planet rules a certain area of our emotions, the house dictates where this attribute is focused and the sign modifies it. Astrologyweekly.com is where I took those quotes from as it describes relationships far better than the online natal chart. Your Jupiter is trine the moon, venus, mars, uranus and neptune so you can google "Jupiter Trine Mars" for example and click the astrologyweekly.com link to get an indepth view of that particular relationship. I'd also like to recommend you look up things like "Saturn in 11th house" to figure out the particular focus of the relationship.

      So when planets are in the same house, its means they're conjunct.

      Also, the planets i mentioned (Moon, mars, venus, uranus, naptune) are also sextile your ascendent, Your sun is conjunct mercury and saturn, and moon, mars, venus, uranus and neptune are all conjunct each other.
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      Reserved for Grasshoppa

      If anyone gets impatient you just can do what I told Xox to do. You can look up your natal charts at 0800-horoscope.com and then since their descriptiuons on each relationship and location can be vague and inaccurate simply google individual relationships and locations. You can take astrologyweekly.com's beginner course to get an understanding of the significance of different houses and locations.

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      I've actually been self-studying astrology for a while, but I'd like to see someone else examine my chart, if you don't mind. =)

      If I could wake up in a different place, at a different time, could I wake up as a different person?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      I'm not defending astorlogy, however one explanation for incongruencies is that people are made up of many contraditocry aspects.
      In other words, an astrologer can say anything he wants without being wrong.

      As you can tell, I'm a skeptic.

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