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      Tell me about the rolling [r] / alveolar trill

      Hey you guys,

      any of you learned the rolling tongue-[r] a bit later in life without it coming naturally to them? Do you have any specific tips for me for learning this if I can't do it automatically? Apart from the common tips like... b...t... and t...d... and trying it over and over? Any tongue exercises or something? I'm already making progress, but any tips are appreciated.

      How did you learn it?





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      Haha that video xD
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      I can do the alveolar but not the uvular very well
      I used to just sit there for hours doing the aveloar for fun as a child not knowing it would come in handy later, but then i want to learn german especialy hard if you have a cold i think.

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      Why is it called alveolar? How are the alveoli used at all?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Thatperson View Post
      I can do the alveolar but not the uvular very well
      I used to just sit there for hours doing the aveloar for fun as a child not knowing it would come in handy later, but then i want to learn german especialy hard if you have a cold i think.
      Hah, there are plenty of German dialects who use the alveolar r and there's no phonemic distinction, so you will definitely pass. You don't need the uvular trill for standard German though, only the fricative. But once you got the fricative, the trill usually comes naturally. (and the other way around apparantly). Try gurgling with water first, that should work. Then do it with small amounts of spit, then try more stuff out.

      Quote Originally Posted by i make it rain View Post
      Why is it called alveolar? How are the alveoli used at all?
      There are plenty of alveoli in the human body, two of which are the alveolar ridges. The edge thingy that holds your teeth.

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      Thanks for the link. The longer reply there is pretty useful and detailled.
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      Ah, I forgot about the alveolar margin. I assumed it was the lung alveoli. Wiki explained that it is called alveolar because your tongue touches there. Thanks. Learn something new every day.
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      LOL @ the video as well.

      I was born in Russia where you roll your R of course, but I couldn't do it until probably age 10 or something like that.

      What happened was my parents took me to a specialist who essentially put a pen in my mouth and moved it very rapidly from side to side, under my tongue. While she was doing this, I would just need to say the letter L or something simple, and it would turn out RRRRRR. It was so weird, but it worked instantly! I went home that day and pretended to be a race car and went RRRRRRRRRR all over the house.

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      I can do a french R i guess. It just comes from the throat and and comes out, thats it. Im not sure how good it is but i can do it pretty naturally at times.
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1eP84n-Lvw

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      Yay, I can do it. *rolls r*
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      Rrrrrrrrrrroll up the rrrrrim to win!


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      Quote Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed View Post
      Rrrrrrrrrrroll up the rrrrrim to win!
      I won a muffin once from that. To bad no SUV....
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