Tell me about joining the Navy (US)

I am interested in signing up for the Navy, either in nuclear engineering or search and rescue. I talked to a recruiter but they always seem to fall back on their promises so I want the truth, right here, from people who know what it is. Here are my questions.

1. Most importantly, will I have ample opportunity to meet girls and have sex? This is my main concern because the thought of being stuck on a boat for really long periods of time with nothing but dudes around me is intimidating. It'd be awesome if I was gay but I'm not so frankly I'm wondering how often do you get shore leave, and how long is it?

2. What is boot camp really like? Should I do stamina training beforehand?

3. What kind of amenities do I get? Is there any internet access? When can I get myself black out wasted?

4. How frequent are drug tests? I don't plan on smoking on the ship but if I take a vacation to see my friends I'm going to want to get high, and if I have to wait 3 months after signing up to go to boot camp, will I be tested during this time or can I enjoy 2 months of the ganja while I wait?

5. Is it usually fun, or is it usually just sititng on a boat doing your job with tiny traces of fun in between?

Yeah, that's all I want to know so far.

/in before OMG MILITARY IS BADDD!!

For fitness, not sure 100% about the US, but here is the Canadian brochure on physical fitness which is likely identical:

http://www.forces.ca/media/_PDF/physical_fitness_en.pdf

Here's a more lengthy read on US Navy Seals fitness:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/261581/ARM...-Fitness-Guide

Hope this helps.

My family has a long line of army blood in them. All I am going to say is, I understand what you're thinking, but expect to feel like a tool.

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Thanks but I wouldn't join the Seals, I'm not doing a combat branch, I would do search and rescue or nuclear engineering. And I still need those 5 questions answered. Most importantly, I just want to know how often I get a chance to get laid, and when they do drug tests.

Thanks for the input anyway.

I can't speak for the experience or the US army. However, the physical fitness requirements is usually identical as it is always humans fitness that is involved lol.

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Unless you are really talented, you will most likely end up as some scrub.
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Recruiters are full of shit.

This is second hand information but it comes from good sources.

Omnis, I will say this in a different way instead of using the friendly and unoffensive joke devoid of profanity I used earlier. It is pretty shocking that you want to join the Navy. Based on lots of things you have said before, I didn't think it would be your thing.

I'll tell you what I told Black Eagle. I happen to be so anti-establishment that I'm rebelling against the established standards of being anti-establishment.

I noticed this when I mentioned it in chat and Guerilla shared his views. It seems like people reject the military out of principle because they're left wing or whatever. It happens to be the best option for my current situation. Everytime I've had a job, with my weed habits, housing and other payments I've never been able to save any money. Now, food and housing is taken care of and I can't smoke on base so it'll help me out. I'm not a slave to my political spectrum's designated career paths. Besides, I would join search and rescue which would mean I'd be saving lost kids in the woods and shit, what could be more liberal than helping people? And if not SARS, I'd be doing job training that would enable me to come back here and install solar panels and shit.

Honestly, originally I only thought of it half heartedly, but I don't want to look at myself ten years from now and realize I've done nothing with my life, and if I continue on the same road that I am now, then that's what will happen. I've got to make my mark, and I don't know what other next step to take. That was just something to think about, it didn't make the Navy appear to me like it was God's will or anything. But, I brought it up to a couple of people, I mentioned it on Facebook, and now I want to join out of spite for all the people giving me shit about it that don't have a reason why. It's like to be a liberal you need to 1. Smoke weed and 2. Hate the military. It makes no sense to me why I suddenly am being a total idiot for considering this option. I'm apparently being brainwashed by my recruiters because no one can come up with a viable reason not to join the Navy.

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no one can come up with a viable reason not to join the Navy.

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Unless you are really talented, you will most likely end up as some scrub.

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The people who get where they want to go in the military are the super talented, super dedicated people who are willing to give up anything to succeed. Search and rescue is no joke and the competition is extremely tough.

I am not saying you should not join the military. I think it is one of the best things someone can do with their life. However, your priorities are way out of whack. I mean, you want to be on a search and rescue team and you are wondering if you will still be able to smoke weed in your off time. What the fuck? It is people like you who end up scrubbing shit off the toilets.

If you really are serious about joining the Navy, here is what you do: Research the physical and athletic requirements for whatever position you aspire to hold, then spend the next six months training on your own to meet those requirements. If you have the self discipline and determination to do it, then consider signing the contract.

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Recruiters are full of shit.

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If you really are serious about joining the Navy, here is what you do: Research the physical and athletic requirements for whatever position you aspire to hold, then spend the next six months training on your own to meet those requirements. If you have the self discipline and determination to do it, then consider signing the contract.

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Pretty sound advice. Well said.

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Originally Posted by Ward

The people who get where they want to go in the military are the super talented, super dedicated people who are willing to give up anything to succeed. Search and rescue is no joke and the competition is extremely tough.

I am not saying you should not join the military. I think it is one of the best things someone can do with their life. However, your priorities are way out of whack. I mean, you want to be on a search and rescue team and you are wondering if you will still be able to smoke weed in your off time. What the fuck? It is people like you who end up scrubbing shit off the toilets.

If you really are serious about joining the Navy, here is what you do: Research the physical and athletic requirements for whatever position you aspire to hold, then spend the next six months training on your own to meet those requirements. If you have the self discipline and determination to do it, then consider signing the contract.

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This directly contradicts what I heard so I need you to clarify it for me. The way it was explained to me, I pick the job, go into training for that job, then go do that job after training. I heard nothing about, "well you suck so you don't get to do this" from ANYBODY until now. So where did you get this information that they don't let you do what you sign up to do initially? Like I said, if that's the case, the recruiter is directly lying to me and the oath I take won't mean jack shit.

And you're completely wrong about my main concern. My main concern is that I get LAID during my off time, not that I smoke weed. Get your facts right before you try to insult me.

Besides, I looked up the requirements and they're a cake walk. 1.5 mile run in 12 minutes, 500 meter swim, like 40 push ups and 60 curls... this is not a hard fitness test to pass. There are different levels of passing, but it's not the marines, it's the navy, meaning I'm already signed up for a job before I go into boot camp. What are they going to do, say that too many people outperformed me so I can't have that job?

Can you not get laid and wasted now? That seems to be your only concern

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My God people, you guys seriously suck. Honestly, my left wing friends are disowning because I'm interested in the Navy, and all the right-wing people dont take me seriously because I LIKE SEX AND DRUGS OMG

Why is it my ONLY CONCERN because I have questions about it? Obviously I could ask the recruitment office about all the bullshit you guys are bringing up, and I did, I came here about issues I specifically couldn't ask the recruitment officer. Holy fucking christ, way to pre-emptively judge me. You think just because I like sex and drugs, I'm not going to give everything I have to this?

Let me repeat, for the umpteenth time, he answered my questions about my MAIN CONCERNS, so I'm asking you guys about OTHER CONCERNS that I can't go to him about. All I want to know now is... is he full of shit? And just saying yes doesn't matter to me. Seriously, if you're just posting in this thread to judge me then GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD ASSHOLE

I'm just saying, why join the navy, when you have everything you need here? You will only be helping the interests of special oil interests and globalist elites by joining. You will officially be a tool of the illegitimate government.

If I get a job here, I'll make 1400 a month and it'll all be wasted on food, rent and drugs. In the navy, there's no food, no rent, and no drugs. I'll be able to come back with enough money saved to be independent from my parents and pursue my real goals in life. I'll receive training to increase my stamina, my survival skills, etc... Honestly, it's what I want. I'm just wondering what I'll be losing in the process. I don't want to do anything that sets my opportunity at getting laid to zero.

Well then i guess you just answered your own question

Yeah sorry about over reacting, I judged you to be somebody just giving me shit like everyone else seems to be.

But I'm still concerned about what Ward said, which is really the only reason I made this thread. I mean, the recruiter made it sounds like I sign up for a job then get that job, the only real exception being the SEALs where 4/5 people drop out. I'm wondering if there's any truth to Ward's claim that they'll shut jobs off from me if I can't out perform the other recruits.

It sounds a little like it has to be either this or that.

Just hoping you are still able to see the infinite amount
of alternatives life has to offer. Joining the military is
a commitment and a choice of how you live your life.
What I am saying is to review your decision from as many
angles as possible to make sure that the basis for it
is not desperation or the search for authority, but what
you truly want.

But I am bias on this matter.

I am not at all saying that change is a bad thing, though!

The way I see things, most people who are against the military are saying shit like "I would never let someone control my life."

The thing is, I already lived out that whole rebel without a cause thing. I partied my ass off and listened to nobody, I was a true rebel, and now it just seems like an overrated thing to pursue in life. Like it's so important to have freedom... I mean we all have freedom no matter what because we can always make a choice. In the military, I can also choose to disobey and be court marshalled if I'm forced to do something that disagrees with my values.

So no it's not this or that, I know I have a lot of alternatives, but for what I want in life it just feels like there are two roads, either really get myself together and focused on my goals or just go with the flow until I get to look back and regret not taking advantage of the time I had. I figure I need to be in an atmosphere more condusive to productivity. Here, I can choose between my stoner friends and my overcontrolling mother nagging me to get a job in a jobless town.

So, I did the rebel thing, decided that's not the lifestyle I want. I did the travelling bum thing, decided that's not the life style I want, and I DEFINITELY don't want to work one stupid job earning peanuts until I can afford to get away, so maybe it's not the only option but it seems like something I should do.

What is the probability that you will have to help with the war in Iraq or Afghanistan? In the Navy, you would probably be on a boat or submarine off the coast of the Middle East or something, I guess. But if you are called to somehow fight, are you ready to fight in a war you adamantly oppose? Will you be okay with killing the people you very well might end up killing?

Also, are you ready to have people yelling orders and insults at you all the time when you can't say jack shit back? You just don't seem like the type. I am still having a hard time picturing you in the military. But if you are okay with it and it is what you end up doing, good luck.

You seem to be ignoring this very crucial piece of information:

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Recruiters are full of shit.

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Applying for a job in the military is like applying for a job anywhere else. The best candidate will get the position. Do you think that every grunt doing manual labour for the military signed up for it? A large number of them signed up to be fucking Rambo but it does not work like that. You can state your preference but you ultimately have no choice in what you end up doing. This means that you could still end up with a nothing job, only you can not quit the Navy.

I do not know you, but based on your most recent posts in this thread, your desire to join the Navy is nothing more than an escapist fantasy.

Here is some golden advice: No jobs in your town? Move away. Nagging mother? Move away. Stoner friends dragging you down? Quit smoking weed. And above all: get a fucking job, any job. Become independent (it is not hard) and use every spare second to get closer to the greatness that you aspire to, whatever it is.

As for your writing, do not be concerned with whether it is good or not, just write something. Keep a notebook that you just "doodle" in and add to it every day no matter how stupid or random it is. Eventually all of your great ideas will materialize on paper.