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      Is it possible to be around a sound so loud...

      that it's impossible to hear? Perhaps an explosion? Keep in mind I'm talking about sound intensity and not frequency.

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      Something so Loud you lose hearing and don't know what you listened too
      if you can read this then you are about to be punched

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      Wow, I have no idea!

      Can you lose hearing SO quickly from the loudness that your brain doesn't register any sound?

      I dunno but I'm curious now.

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      I figured something that loud would probably kill you.

      But, I don't know.

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      Quote Originally Posted by nitsuJ View Post
      I figured something that loud would probably kill you.

      But, I don't know.
      That would be cool..
      Death doctor?... Death by sound..
      Sounds like something at a death metal concert.
      AHAH DEATH metal get it?

      But to OP, I dont know. I wouldn't think so.
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      Yes I think so, and yes it would probably kill you

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      A sound that makes you deaf instantly, that would be. I don't see there's any other way
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      me and my cousin one time found bullets, and we had a hammer, so we them with it, and it was so loud, we couldnt hear anything for about 3 seconds. so im assuming if you got something even louder, then im sure it would deafen you for longer, if not for ever.

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      You and your cousin are lucky to be alive after doing something so stupid, slash112.


      As said above, such a sound would almost certainly kill you. Which is kind of cool, actually.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      You and your cousin are lucky to be alive after doing something so stupid, slash112.
      yes, we know, we realised it was a stupid thing about 10 minutes later. we were like "hold on a minute, that was fuckin stupid, they were dam BULLETS!!!", we just werent thinking straight at the time. but, boys will be boys, as they say, we always did stupid stuff back then.


      but back on topic anyway...
      i dodnt undertand how a loud noise could kill you, it could damage your ears, but i dont see how it could kill you.

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      The more we increase the amount of decibels of a sound, the more power behind the sound from the sound source. A good example is that if you play a song really loud on a set of speakers, when you turn it up to its loudest, it is likely that you will feel a certain amount of pressure coming from the sound source.

      This is applicable to the big bang, with a loud sound comes a significant force due to the power of the sound, of course it does depend on the source.

      So in answer to the original question, it is likely that there is a sound so loud that we couldn't hear it because if it were so immense it would have already burst our ear drums by the initial force, but it could go either way, there may be a split second in which you hear the sound before the pressure cripples your ear drums or the pressure may be so overwhelming that your ear drums pack in before you have chance to perceive the sound.

      To the extent where a sound so loud could kill someone, its definitely possible, as i said above, with loud sound comes great pressure/force and if the sound produced was so powerful it would likely mean it produces a lot of pressure, if this pressure is significant enough if could potentially either crush the body, or maybe soft organs such as the brain thus rendering us dead.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Lucid Seeker View Post
      The more we increase the amount of decibels of a sound, the more power behind the sound from the sound source. A good example is that if you play a song really loud on a set of speakers, when you turn it up to its loudest, it is likely that you will feel a certain amount of pressure coming from the sound source.

      This is applicable to the big bang, with a loud sound comes a significant force due to the power of the sound, of course it does depend on the source.

      So in answer to the original question, it is likely that there is a sound so loud that we couldn't hear it because if it were so immense it would have already burst our ear drums by the initial force, but it could go either way, there may be a split second in which you hear the sound before the pressure cripples your ear drums or the pressure may be so overwhelming that your ear drums pack in before you have chance to perceive the sound.

      To the extent where a sound so loud could kill someone, its definitely possible, as i said above, with loud sound comes great pressure/force and if the sound produced was so powerful it would likely mean it produces a lot of pressure, if this pressure is significant enough if could potentially either crush the body, or maybe soft organs such as the brain thus rendering us dead.
      hmmm, i dunno. because all sounds are are waves. how can a wave have a force or power or give pressure

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      Quote Originally Posted by NeoSioType View Post
      that it's impossible to hear? Perhaps an explosion? Keep in mind I'm talking about sound intensity and not frequency.
      I think the main question is, is it possible for the compression wave to rip apart your brain before it registers the wave having hit the ear drum. I would guess no, since neural impulses travel faster than sound. Or in other words, no matter how hard you get pwned by a super nuclear shock wave, you should always hear an unbelievably loud bang a split second before dying.

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      It would take a blast of sound of roughly 200 decibels to kill. This would create an air embolism originating in the lungs. The pressure from the blast would rupture tissue in your lungs, forcing air bubbles out into the arteries leading to your heart, brain, and other organs. This would lead to sudden death. It would also crush your intestines and other hollow organs as well as shatter your eardrums, very likely before you heard the sound. You eardrums will rupture at 160-185 decibels, so it is possible to never hear the sound that killed you.

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      The Mosquito

      it's not exactly loud, but the frequency is so high and fast, it goes beyond most people's hearing ability. i don't think this is the answer you were looking for, but it's mildly interesting. there's also been some study done on it's health effects, which might provide a clue to what a sound that's loud and intense might do to you.

      if you can't hear the sound itself, the best way to describe it, would--obviously--be like when mosquitos buzz in people's ears.

      the guy was trying to do Tesla-like experiments with frequency rather than electricity. i'm not positive on this part, but if i remember correctly he was trying to find sounds that could create intense vibrations, similar to Tesla's earthquake-machine. but came up with this instead.



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      Quote Originally Posted by acatalephobic View Post
      The Mosquito

      it's not exactly loud, but the frequency is so high and fast, it goes beyond most people's hearing ability. i don't think this is the answer you were looking for, but it's mildly interesting. there's also been some study done on it's health effects, which might provide a clue to what a sound that's loud and intense might do to you.

      if you can't hear the sound itself, the best way to describe it, would--obviously--be like when mosquitos buzz in people's ears.

      the guy was trying to do Tesla-like experiments with frequency rather than electricity. i'm not positive on this part, but if i remember correctly he was trying to find sounds that could create intense vibrations, similar to Tesla's earthquake-machine. but came up with this instead.



      read OP, "not frequency"
      the mosquito is a good thing though, i love it, its at a frequency of somewhere around 16-17KHz i think, and that sound can be heard by young people, but after you get a bit older, you cant hear that frequency. a while ago, my family was over, so there was kids and adults, i played it dead loud and all the kids were all "aaaah!!" and the adults were all "what? i dont hear anything" it was funny

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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112
      read OP, "not frequency"
      oops. apologies.
      my mind just went to that because i remembered something about what he was originally trying to do.


      ...and after thinking about it some more,
      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel
      You eardrums will rupture at 160-185 decibels, so it is possible to never hear the sound that killed you.
      ...that is tremendously unsettling to think about.


      Is it possible a sound destroy something more solid than us? like rock?

      ...wait, best not to think more about it, lest someone come up with the idea to invent something like that. *shudder*


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      Quote Originally Posted by slash112 View Post
      i played it dead loud and all the kids were all "aaaah!!" and the adults were all "what? i dont hear anything" it was funny
      That's funny.

      So when I get older I won't be able to hear mosquitoes? That would be SWEET. There's no more annoying of a sound.

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      you'll get to the point where it's less "sound" in the traditional sense, and more "blast wave"
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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      It would take a blast of sound of roughly 200 decibels to kill. This would create an air embolism originating in the lungs. The pressure from the blast would rupture tissue in your lungs, forcing air bubbles out into the arteries leading to your heart, brain, and other organs. This would lead to sudden death. It would also crush your intestines and other hollow organs as well as shatter your eardrums, very likely before you heard the sound. You eardrums will rupture at 160-185 decibels, so it is possible to never hear the sound that killed you.

      More information here.
      A sound loud enough to rupture ear drums would certainly be 'heard', in the sense that nerves will still transduce the shockwave, so that's incorrect

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      A sound loud enough to rupture ear drums would certainly be 'heard', in the sense that nerves will still transduce the shockwave, so that's incorrect
      But would the sound your "heard" be the actual noise, or just the unintelligible garble of your eardrums being ruptured? If the latter, then it would be correct.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      But would the sound your "heard" be the actual noise, or just the unintelligible garble of your eardrums being ruptured? If the latter, then it would be correct.
      I interpreted the question to be asking whether the knowledge of a compression wave having hit the ear could ever not be known before the wave itself kills the victim. If we're talking about processing the sound, then that takes the brain considerably longer, and may indeed take longer than the time it takes to be killed.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      I interpreted the question to be asking whether the knowledge of a compression wave having hit the ear could ever not be known before the wave itself kills the victim. If we're talking about processing the sound, then that takes the brain considerably longer, and may indeed take longer than the time it takes to be killed.
      So, taking both concepts together, you'd probably "feel" the sound but die before actually hearing (knowing) the actual noise it was making? Makes sense. Weird to think about, though.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      So, taking both concepts together, you'd probably "feel" the sound but die before actually hearing (knowing) the actual noise it was making? Makes sense. Weird to think about, though.
      Something like that. In any case, you wouldn't have time to contemplate the workings of the auditory nervous system, or indeed why someone decided to set you up the bomb, before being splattered.

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      A sound so loud that it will kill you is not a sound anymore, it's a very powerful shockwave, ie. something a huge explosion would cause.

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