Thread: Ask me about vegetarianism

Ya I know not all Christians have the same viewpoint on weather animals have sould but I think most think they dont, and doing it for different reasons is completly different to me.

Your family trying to sneak meat into your food, thats prety mesed up!

Why is it that all the greatest tasting foods aren't allowed??/

But it's alive when you eat it & stuff. I don't know, I have to read the books again so I can explain it to you and know what I'm saying. I'm not going to pretend I do, 'cause that bothers me

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Is it just me that finds eating dead stuff less weird than eating living stuff . If only celery could yell...

There was this guy at Yahoo Answers who asked why veggies talked to him. He swore he had heard lettuce screaming XD

Originally Posted by MadMonkey

I dont have anything against vegitarians. It has some practicle reasons. I dont like it when Christians are vegitarians for the reason that they feel bad for the animals. God put them here to be eatin. From a Christian perspective they dont have souls so it dosn't matter if you kill them they are just as alive as any plant. and is prety important for a balanced diet. plus it tastes good.

Have I heard this argument before. Well, I don't like it when Christians eat meat, because from my p.o.v. animals have souls and pain and feelings. They are precious and sacred to me. I'd like to read the passages of the bible that refer to eating, might you have some of them? Just wondering. Anyways, all to their opinions, the only thing that disturbs me is that animals are being murdered every day to satisfy some people's wants.

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Would you eat jellyfish?

My two cents: (Actually, no. If opinions were money, politics would care more about them)
My philosophy is that I'm not eating any living thing that's not necessary. Why kill when life is so precious? Feel the heart beat of an animal or see into its eyes. I don't know how you can kill it when you feel that life.

Originally Posted by Serenity

It's because of this that I tried to go veggie before. But I'd done no research on a proper diet and made myself sick...

Sorry if this was covered before, I was lightly skimming the thread before logging to finish my work reports...

Anyone currently veggie live with a partner, or generally do the majority of the cooking in their household... do you cook for meat-eaters in your life? What's your practices on cooking for two different diets? Just add meat to whatever it is you made, after you serve your own plate first?

Further to that, what about the personal ethics side of things? I'm going veggie because of many reasons, one of them being the animal cruelty... but my BF is strictly never going to see things the way I do. So whether I don't eat it or not, I still have to cook with it.

I live with me mom, and even though she sometimes claims she's vegetarian (which makes me angry a bit) she eats meat occasionally. But when my brother lived here she used to cook two meals, one for him and one for me. Yes, at first it's hard to go veggie when you live with a meat-eater, that's actually why I haven't gone raw yet. But, eventually it will be normal. Ask your bf if he can cook for himself, as a way to support you.

Originally Posted by dajo

There are several good reasons to do the research. It's not difficult to find good information on the
arguments for a vegetarian diet and also how to pursuit a healthy one. There are literally tons.
And you should definitely try to be healthy as a top priority.

Personally, I wouldn't cook with meat. So if I cook for friends and family, it's always strictly vegetarian
and so far noone I cooked for has complained. But if you are ok with it, I don't think it would be very
difficult to just simultaneously cook a vegetarian meal and a meat-based one. You can always just
add the meat later or serve it on an extra plate, so everyone can just pick whatever they want to eat.

All you probably need is an extra frying pan and some multi-tasking skills. Although there are meals,
like if you'd want to cook lasagne or something like that, where I'd imagine it being more difficult.

What kind of meals do you usually cook?
Maybe we could think of good ways to alter those to be vegetarian as well, without even changing much.

True, for me it's never an option to cook meat. Nope, my friends will have to eat vegetarian if I'm cooking, but everybody compliments my food actually

Originally Posted by Xox

Lol this is the argument my parents use every day. Maybe all Christians don't have the same "soul viewpoint" as you do. Or maybe they do it for different reasons.


Anyway, my family is huge on meat eating, in fact after a year of vegetarianism, my family still insists on offering me food or even trying to sneak in meat to meals. I'm really surrounded by meat, but I feel no desire to eat it. If your willpower/reasoning is strong enough, it'll be no problem.

My only advice to people thinking about going veg is to LOOK UP THE FACTS. Don't just stop eating meat one day. That's dangerous. There's a lot of stuff you'll be lacking that you'll have to get in other ways.

Hahah, my family forgets I'm veggie. It annoyed me, but now I'm used to it.

Btw, I stopped eating meat at once and only got very low anemia. You can do that. Meat is NOT necessary. Go to an expert, yes. But no supplements needed! Lettuce has more calcium than milk. Some greens have more protein than meat. So make sure to take greens. Try green smoothies; they're very good.

Originally Posted by Jorge

Why is it that all the greatest tasting foods aren't allowed??/

I beg to differ!
If you're a:
Vegetarian: you still get chocolate and cheese! YUM!
Vegan: peanut butter vegan cookies are GOOD
Raw: Fruit are HEAVENLY! Oranges, mangos, strawberries: proof that God exists!!

Originally Posted by Jorge

Why is it that all the greatest tasting foods aren't allowed??/

I know what you mean, but you'd be surprised how many good things most people don't know.

Anyone, who knew me before, would have never thought that I could go without meat and
cheese. Well, after lots of research and looking for alternatives, I can say that the "transition"
has been surprisingly easy. It's just become normal to me. But it depends on individual taste.

Originally Posted by Xox

in fact after a year of vegetarianism, my family still insists on offering me food or even trying to sneak in meat to meals.

Uh, my parents would regret that. Thankfully they know better.

(I heard/read about that from a number of other vegetarians, too)

Originally Posted by undeadjellybean

Feel the heart beat of an animal or see into its eyes.

I agree. It's a little conflicting, the way we attach ourselves to dogs and cats, yet
attributing the same traits to a pig or a cow seem like too much of a stretch. Cute
animals have a clear advantage.

Originally Posted by undeadjellybean

My two cents: (Actually, no. If opinions were money, politics would care more about them)
My philosophy is that I'm not eating any living thing that's not necessary. Why kill when life is so precious? Feel the heart beat of an animal or see into its eyes. I don't know how you can kill it when you feel that life.

It's just a matter of exposure. I've been exposed to nature in all its life and death since a very young age. Why would a bear be able to eat meat but not humans, we're all in the same food chain. I've also killed animals with my bare hands many, many times (mostly hunting, I'm not some animal torturer ). If anything I find that I have more respect and a better understanding of nature and animals than most since I often interact with them in their natural habitat. Most vegetarians are city dwellers and never get directly involved with the local ecology. People who spend a lot of time in the wild get used to death as a part of nature after seeing other animals rip each other to shreds so much.


P.S. Use that button at the bottom right of a post to multi-quote instead of making an octuple post ...

Originally Posted by Spartiate

It's just a matter of exposure. I've been exposed to nature in all its life and death since a very young age. Why would a bear be able to eat meat but not humans, we're all in the same food chain. I've also killed animals with my bare hands many, many times (mostly hunting, I'm not some animal torturer ). If anything I find that I have more respect and a better understanding of nature and animals than most since I often interact with them in their natural habitat. Most vegetarians are city dwellers and never get directly involved with the local ecology. People who spend a lot of time in the wild get used to death as a part of nature after seeing other animals rip each other to shreds so much.


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Well, bears don't have the same conscience we have. But anyways, it's different when you've hunted with your own bare hands and are close to nature. I respect your beliefs, and I don't think you're causing the suffering to animals like big corporations do. I've seen meat-eaters saying vegetarians are "gay" (which isn't much of an insult but anyways). Well, let me just remind you: you buy your meat at the supermarket, just as I do my veggies.
I know I wouldn't be able to kill an animal, I just couldn't be able. I'm an EXTREMELY sensitive person, I must admit.

P.S. which one?

Originally Posted by Spartiate

It's just a matter of exposure. I've been exposed to nature in all its life and death since a very young age. Why would a bear be able to eat meat but not humans, we're all in the same food chain. I've also killed animals with my bare hands many, many times (mostly hunting, I'm not some animal torturer ). If anything I find that I have more respect and a better understanding of nature and animals than most since I often interact with them in their natural habitat. Most vegetarians are city dwellers and never get directly involved with the local ecology. People who spend a lot of time in the wild get used to death as a part of nature after seeing other animals rip each other to shreds so much.

I also agree that there are worlds apart between what you're doing and mass production.

An interesting TED Talk on this matter and its urgency:
http://www.ted.com/talks/mark_bittma...at_we_eat.html