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What one do you suggest reading first, the art of dreaming? i plan to pick one up as ive seen quite a few recommendations for itQuote:
Originally Posted by SilverBullet
Also, dont know if this is has been asked already, any tips on how you was able to convince yourself or take on the persona of a natural lucid?
Probably the first one you would want to read is the art of dreaming. It's the one I started with.
To answer your question; I just know that I have the power to lucid dream if I want to, so I simply do.
I've read the entire thread from page 1 to now -- and I'm excited by your discoveries! I'm also thrilled by the many posts from newbies and intermediate LD'ers who got an LD from using your "mindset" mentality.
It's easier for me to view it as highly focused self-hypnosis that creates a post-hypnotic suggestion that leads to a rock solid habit where you are on "autopilot" regarding gaining lucidity without using the "normal" LD inducing techniques.
Incidentally, your system is almost identical to the Seth methodology of using suggestion as you fall asleep.
And, of course, your system uses the Don Juan Matus "unbending intent" and "Set-up of Dreaming" techniques that were also used by Robert Waggoner to begin his LD journey.
Absolute brilliance!
Thanks, the only problem with this is that some people grasp the concept immediately, and some don't.
It's kind of like a Zen meditation: trying too hard actually prevents what you're seeking. I know I've tried too hard in the past. This time I'm using your "mindset" methodology.
A wise person once said "If you're involved in a paradox, you're on the right track." There are paradoxes throughout the "natural lucid dreamers" methodology and that can consternate some folks.
BTW, I ripped all four of those "How to Double Your Brain Power" YouTube videos and combined them into one 50mb MP3. I uploaded it to my smartphone and replay it over and over to get the gist of what they're puttin' out.
Thank youQuote:
Originally Posted by SilverBullet
Art of Dreaming by Carlos Castaneda is ordered via Amazon!
Great thread...this actually got me back on track. Ended up having 3 good lucid dreams last night.
One thing that helped me with this was to pick a single, simple goal in my lucids and make sure I identify it as something I feel the need to solve. I set my target on mastering teleportation. This gave me a way to focus my intent without getting tangled up in micromanaging all my ideas about how to attain lucidity. This pretty much sounds like #3 in a nut shell.
When I was around 6 or 7 I had nightmares non-stop because I was allowed to watch some pretty scary stuff. After awhile I got to a point where I would stop the nightmare and change the dream. I've had maybe 3 nightmares that I can remember since my early childhood and in each case I'm lucid almost instantly. I'm also completely invincible and typically fearless in all my dreams.
So for #1 and #2 it's easy for me to believe I'm a natural because I'm pretty sure almost everyone has the potential to be. I think of it as a label. The tiny edge I have in dreams I attained as a by-product of things that happened in my life. Should be reproducible. If you can't at least overcome #1 then you're shooting yourself in the foot. Thinking that attaining lucidity is hard is like blocking your own shot in a basketball game.
The ability to dream lucidly is innate. Realising you are dreaming is something that has or will happen to a person in their lifetime. They may not remember it but it's practically inevitable that it will happen at some point. If something is destined to happen accidentally that tells me that we don't have to over complicate it.
Again, great thread! After going crazy on lucid dreaming a few months back I hit a dry spell mostly because of laziness and information overload. This really put me on the right track again.
Just chiming in to say that yes, this method worked amazingly well for me. After focusing my intent at nighttime (and during WBTB awakenings especially) for only two days, I got a long string of lucid dreams on the second day...felt like I was lucid for hours.
I realized I did something similar to this "intent" method when I was having nightmares as a kid, like adam-s is saying -- I figured out that I could fly away from frightening things, and after deciding that I can and will fly away to escape my nightmares, it became second nature to me. I never worried about forgetting to fly away, or not knowing how to fly, or not realizing I was having a nightmare -- it became an automatic thing to me because I'd decided I would do it and was confident that I could. (And it stuck with me -- I fly constantly in dreams, even to this day, just because I conditioned myself to do it. I just wish I'd thought of using flight as a dreamsign when I was younger, I could have been lucid dreaming multiple times a week by now :cheeky: )
This technique has boosted my amount of lucids bigtime. I can confirm what you said about dream journals by the way. They help for dream vividness, but it doesn't affect my lucid count. It might be a good idea to use my wake ups for DEILD instead of DJ. That way I combine DILD (ADA), WILD (DEILD) and MILD (this thread). Hard to go wrong on that :P
Yesterday morning I had a bunch of lucid dreams within an hour. I had so many false awakenings it felt like I was never gonna actually wake up. The dreams were EXTREMELY vivid.
Wow, Bullet, 390 LDs now?
I'm going to give this a go too, always open to new suggestions and techniques :)
It's more than that, I haven't been updating it that much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctharlhie
No matter how much I practise and believe this technique, or others of the same principle. I never get anywhere. Dont know if its just me or what. I believe im going to have a lucid as much as i believe i will wake up tomorow morning, still nothing. :?
You didn't fail. You were succesful, forgot about it, all of that in order to train yourself to handle failure in your life. You just dont realize it because it is the unconcious part of your brain who handles that. It is the only explanation why a pro lucid dreamer like you wouldnt wake up remembering his awesome lucid dreams from the past night.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowOfSelf
I myself have forgotten many lucid dreams.
Sometimes I'll be in the middle of the day when I suddenly remember a lucid dream I had but couldn't remember before.
Makes me wonder how many drift away completely from my memory.
I like that :p thanks. 'Forgetting' the lucid dream is a lot better than thinking you didnt have one. Has kept my motivation up a bit so thanks again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyguy
Woah, MAN!
I read this article twice again last night and welt to bed thinking "Well, duh. Of course I'll have a memorable dream." >BAM< I got one. :shadewink:
Thank you so much for clarifying all that, it really helps!
Oh wow. I like that. Kinda gives me some confidence. ...Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBullet
God I really want to be able to do this technique....
Same. Sometimes Ill just lay in bed and the memories will come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBullet
as i was reading this, a song called 'chasing shadows' by stratovarius came on. i normally have very low self confidence, but the irony of the repeated chorus of "you're chasing shadows" actually made me laugh and i feel really confident. looking forward to trying thus new method of no method tonight.
I just want to be able to do this so bad, like you, SilverBullet... Will I ever reach there....
Yes, tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidRaider
Honestly if you're asking that kind of question you clearly missed the whole point of the tutorial :/
I know, But I just... can't help but find it hard. I'm scared to go to sleep tonight and wake up in the morning with nothing, I'm sick of doing that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctharlhie
I'm trying... really....I have such a bad belief system in this... ugh, I hate it....