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Don't you mean understood?Quote:
Originally Posted by Origami
Yes, you could say this might be a waste of time and and it makes no sense, but that's what life is my friend.
You wanted to know what intent is, the only way I could do that is to show you a vague idea of it, or for you to experience it.
Thats because those people can just do. I can't, I need to understand what this is before I can even try it. But its too hard to explain to I don't get it.
I cannot believe I said understanded.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBullet
What the hell.
Yeah, and how many people continue to have success?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctharlhie
Oh and maybe you missed the "reposted due to data loss" part. It has worked for many people. It gave many people their first LD.
Ok, but I will continue to have lucids almost every night with my method :D
Thats it; I'm done.
I don't even want to understand your method Silverbullet, it's over complicated.
I'll stick with the tried and tested ones that I tried but didn't work for me.
Understanded. What the hell.
This is how I lucid dream. It's very very simple but definitely not something that translates into language.
If anyone is into law of correspondence/law of attraction, then it might be easier to say you must vibrate as one would if you were a natural lucid dreamer. You change yr identity and alter yr vibration/energy field so yr viewpoint becomes that of a natural lucid dreamer/lucid dream master.
Its funny how it really is as easy as saying "just be a lucid dream master", but if you don't understand the intent part ... you have no hope to understand.
nice technique, silver. i like the part about you having to realize its not hard. its like when you look up side effects for a drug or pill you are going to take, see what the side effects are, then get the side effects because you expected to. if everyone says it is hard, you are going to believe its hard. we have to get away from that.
I read that Art of Dreaming thing a year ago, and I can say that there is 50%/50% crap and truth. I tend to believe in LD as a purely psychological/oneirological phenomena, not as such mystical thing Castaneda believed. Yes, his techniques (if you can call them so) can work, but mostly the book is an amusing novel and nothing more.
Yeah, it's just something your brain can do for you if you work it the right way. There is no "Astral plane" or "dream body". It's all just imagination and your brain thinking you are where you are not. That's why I couldn't understand it, it doesn't make sense, only to gullible people who read something and take it as the whole truth. Placebo is all this is.
Nah, I don't believe it because I'm gullible, I believe it because of my experiences I've had in my life. If I believed in whatever I wanted to believe I would believe in a lot of shit. The things they mention in the book really link with some things that have happened in my life. I'm not gullible in any way. I can actually be pretty skeptical about things at times. Also, 2 more lucids last night :). I know that what I do is real, and it works. I don't care if anyone tells me otherwise.
Oh and also, I guess you could call this method a placebo, a placebo is that you believe that it will work. But I am aware about it and am using it on purpose.But believing you can lucid dream is only a part of it.
I didn't mean to say YOU were gullible, I didn't mean that.
Also congrats on the two lucids last night, nice one. I actually had some pretty good and clear dreams last night after my WBTB. Thats the only method that has come anywhere close to lucid for me, I don't know why I only did it twice before.
I broke my dry spell last night, and the difference now is I really think I could get to the point of nightly lucids with this.
Yesterday I thought I finally knew what 'intent' was, I went to bed with this great positive feeling, I didn't think even once about lucid dreaming, I just fell asleep with a smile on my face and a feeling of great excitement. I didn't even reality check, I knew I was dreaming and that was it.
So thanks, Silverbullet. :)
just finished reading the last couple of pages. SilverBullet, you must be the most patient person I've never met :bowdown:
I totally underestimated the intent part tho...I always thought there it is something else that is keeping me from nightly lucids, but I guess I have to reconsider....
Also, the fact that it works for SilverBullet shows that it can work for everyone (you are human, right? :P)
Good luck if you try this "technique"Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsupilama
Just because one person understands something, doesn't mean everyone should be able to, or that it's correct or real. I still think this whole intent thing is an idea Silverbullet has that works for him, but it's so vague an idea that when ever I try to get more info out of him he can't explain it to me. It's a concept, not a technique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marsupilama
If you think this works for you, then fine, it probably does through placebo. But all intent is is the MILD technique basically, firmly setting your mind to do something. Why he couldn't just say that straight off baffles me.
Word up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Origami
BrofistQuote:
Originally Posted by rynkrt3
This is a placebo that's it.
Haha funny. Because I remember that there was only like three pages of replies and almost all of them were gripping because you said that LDing isn't hard and that you didn't néed a dream journal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBullet
I have worked I insanely hard to get to where I am today and I do not respect anybody who says that lucid dreaming doesn't have to take work.
Also I really hope that you aren't one of those people who believe that if you intend on getting a parking spot it you will get it every single time. Cause that is bs.
I don't think he is. This is not an argument or some attempt to get this topic thrown out. I just couldn't understand the concept behind this technique, and I realize now that it shouldn't be called a technique in the first place. Not the way we know it anyway. It's Silverbullets own way of getting lucid, and it works. But in his attempt to share it with everyone, it couldn't form well enough for people such as myself to comprehend.
Yeah I'm not trying to fight either. I just wanted to put my 2 cents that I think it's a placebo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Origami
Man I don't like your attitude, relax. We're not all the same, if someone can have lucid dreams without a dream journal or without effort just by setting his intent and wants to share it with others you should really respect his opinion. Do we all need the same amount of time to learn maths? Or speaking a foreign language? The fact you worked insanely hard is a good thing because it means you were not so incline to lucid dreaming and that's fine, but still working hard remains your business. Oh, and don't be an hypocrite, it's pathetic, accept diversity, there's no need not to respect someone just because he can do something better than you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakotahnok
Does it really matter if it's a placebo? If I'm getting a lucid almost every night then does it really matter? And I'm sorry if I'm offending you by having lucids easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakotahnok
Also, to origami, I don't get how you don't really understand the way I explained intent. My brother could grasp the concept easily even though he does not believe it to be real. Same with other people I've explained it to.
You still don't know what intent is. Because like I said, to set your intent you need to feel the emotion of wanting to lucid dream, but without the THOUGHT of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Origami
There we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilverBullet
Wanting.
What. I. Said. Before.
Why are you over complicating this, for me?
*sigh* I'm not. Simply wanting is not what you do. DETAILS MATTER.Quote:
Originally Posted by Origami
I mean really, did you actually READ what I posted?