My concerns

i shut my eyes, felt my body go numb

i noticed felt very relaxed and calm

i don't mind doing it

i'm not sure how long i did it for, maybe 2 hours

i felt like i was losing more and more feeling of my body

i at once point felt a sudden change of view , as if my neck had suddenly been re-angled .. so that my face was pointing further back ( higher in the sky ( more behind me ) ) .. my neck was at a bigger angle from lying straight ( hard to explain )

Ok now i have some big questions to ask

I am not seeing anything happen when i'm doing this, i think its SP but again i don't know for sure.

But after that time i get more more and hot, i don't know why but i get extremely hot and end up sweating all over like a pig, i can feel the sweat all over my body, its not a nice feeling.

So this time ( 15 mins ago ) , i decided okay so if i've got this far , i'm going to test to see what they talk about on the forums , i knew that i can't move my body parts because of the system which disables them, but i thought surely if i tried i can, and as i thought i can .. although the resistance is extreme, like i am lifting a very heavy weight OR moving my body through a very thick atmosphere. I thought okay, perhaps i am not moving my real body , but perhaps this is what its really like first time leaving the body -.- .. but of course i was wrong because i then touched the wall and it felt normal, everything was normal, it was just my physical body moving.

So my question is : How does anyone originally obtain a second body and how does anyone ever obtain motion ( movement ) .. because when ever i try i can only think in terms of my body, since thats the only body i've ever operated or known to operate. Please help me, i am very eager to experience some dreams but i just don't know how i am supposed to be free when i am feeling sweaty,hot and without a second body.


I kept saying "I want to see now" " I want to see through my dream eyes" "let me see" .. but all i could see was black ness , and i couldn't wait longer because i was becoming a pool of water


Its now 3 .5 hour later, i slept for about 3 hour i think .. i chose to get up for a while for this WBTB thingy , its luck i woke cos we have people on our roof making a lot of noise hehe , hm i hope i get a lucid

Well to me... this way just a mish mash of failed attempts and hoping for something that will never happen.

I'm guessing you tried for a typical OBE? Well for that you started off wrong, I don't think you can just lay down and eventually separate. You have to be actually asleep, then wake up your mind, but your body has to be asleep. When you were sweating and trying not to move, you were about as far away from sleeping as you could be. You need to be relaxed, comfortable, tired but not exhausted, and focused. I'm sure you will agree you were none of these things at that point in time.

Also, you cannot force an OBE. You can't want it so hard that you break through and end up on one. You need to do it by a set of instructions which give a general outline of how it works. It's not set in stone, but it is pretty precise on when you can and can't do it.

Research it more, look into it, and try to follow as closely as you can.

ok dreamviewers i figured the reason for me getting hot was because my core temp was obviously not low enough when i went into bed, i was not ready for sleep when i went to bed.