Though i never had a lucid dream yet, i have had vivid dreams. Dreams so clear i can some of them even after 20 years. Just how real can lucid dreams be ? As real as waking life ?
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Though i never had a lucid dream yet, i have had vivid dreams. Dreams so clear i can some of them even after 20 years. Just how real can lucid dreams be ? As real as waking life ?
Yes, they can be as real as waking life. Sometimes they feel even more real because you are more aware of your surroundings. Imagine that right now, as you read this message, you notice that you are dreaming. It can be as real as this!
Of course it's different on every lucid dream but with some training you can make them vivid very easily :)
I wish you good luck with getting your first lucid dream! Just believe in it :D
Damn. That's powerful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Katsuno
I've always had the perception that it's the day-time world of the body and the night-time world of the soul. I once read a quote along those lines and loved it. No limitations and just as real as anything we've experienced in waking life. I'm fascinated by the fact that we carry over emotions from dreams... if we have an amazingly magnificent dream, we carry that powerful positive energy over in our day. If it's been negative, we carry that as well. As you stated, we can remember them just as a real experience for years and years and years to come and never forget them.
So real, that I've had a little ongoing issue of confusing dreams with waking reality... which makes me feel a little less than sane sometimes but I love it
I think it is very sane to question the difference between dreams and waking life. Is each not a internalized subjective experience? It really doesn't make any sense to me to say you can be "inside" your own brain or that it is a hallucination. I think lucid dreams and OBEs are just as valid as waking life because they are observed by the consciousness residing within.Quote:
Originally Posted by UnrealReality
And what of nearly (if not) sentient dream characters? Where does their state of awareness reside?
Supposedly, lucid dreaming can make you MORE lucid in real life.
Define real. If you are blind and deaf in reality it isn't much of an experience is it? When we dream it can be so vivid that it can even make a blind man see a deaf man hear, and for us well it make us experience and understand new sensations.
The mos vivid lucid dream and dream I have had happend in the late morning and it was very vivid, so real that I had trouble understanding that it was a dream, but because of some reality checks I could mantain the lucidity. Although with real I mean the awareness feels incredible, but the details are not allways that good, but I have just pracctised for 3 years so maybe after some more pracctise.
I've only had four lucid dreams so far, but I've had lots of non-lucid vivid dreams and I can remember both equally well, as if they were waking memories. I hope you get your first lucid dream soon, because it's totally cool to realize you're dreaming and explore & interact with the dream environment!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hussain
Depends how u look at it, how do u define reality?
Something u can hear, feel, smell, see.. etc? those things happen aswell in dreams sometimes even more intense i heard!
For myself i see dreams (even hallucinations.. etc) as some sort of layer of reality can't really explain it mutch better. :cheeky:
But everybody first got to define there own meaning of reality so u probably will get a lot of different answers if u ask like 1000 people this question, cause we are all different in the end.
All depends how u look at it personally, but that's just my view on these things.
All i know is lucid dreaming is Awesomeness :D
In my experience, if it were possible i would say they seem more real? It is kind of hard to explain, One thing i remember as a child is that color seemed brighter, sounds are more entertaining, i feel like as i get older things have gotten more dull. The way i would describe it is Lucid dreaming is more colorful and a richer experience then i remember having as a child.
hope that helps?
Most of my lucid dreams are as real, if not more real, than waking life. Having said that, I think that practice helps. Some of your first LDs might be sort of unstable which causes them to be more "dreamy" and unreal. But once you get the hang of it, yes they are extremely vivid, all the senses are involved and then some. :)
It should be, but reality is your perception.
Thus, lucid dream might be even more real than waking world.
Want a good example for how real they feel? Whenever I'm about to do something questionable (whether by law or moral ethics) eg. a crime, I always usually check to make sure that I'm actually still dreaming and I do this throughout the dream to make sure its not waking reality...yeah thats how real it feels.
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Originally Posted by lawilahd
Haha I love that example.
Sounds amazing how real it can be.
Its kind of a weird feeling. I wouldn't say its like real life. It's as realistic as any other dream. The closest description i can provide is that in the dream it feels TOTALLY REAL, i mean , you think "wow thats f***ing awesome!!!" but when you wake up, its as "scripted" as any other dream. When you wake up you think of what you just experienced as a dream, but you still remember the "wow factor" it gave you in the dream about how realistic it was....in a few words, AFTER the dream, it doesnt feel realistic anymore, but you still remember how realistic it felt in the dream...Its really complicated to describe.
"What is real? How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain." Morpheus, in Matrix the movie.
According to some scientists (I can't prove or disprove them), lucid dreaming is an conscious state in which you are even more aware then waking life. This is because you are the creator. The sensorial input you are receiving is being created by your own mind, in an attempt to reproduce real life. Now, as you are lucid, you realize that what you see, and feel, and hear, is just a product of what your mind can do. You are not receiving this externally, but from yourself. Because of this, awareness is (in a fully lucid dream) much greater than the one you have right now as you read these lines.
The feeling that rock4dreams seems to talk about above, is the feeling that, despite you knowing it's not real, it feels real, it seems real, and you're brain is telling that it is real. This can be overwhelming, and makes the experience even more singular and special, changing the dream itself (since your emotions can influence dream content).
Just the other night, I had a dream that I was sledding in the woods somewhere (without snow), and I flew about 30 feet in the air and I almost made it over some branch in a tree, but I hit my legs and it hurt! I felt the pine needles and it didn't go away until I woke up.
But anyway, the dream can be as real as your mind makes it out to be. It's all neurons firing in your brain.
I have had lucid dreams that were stunningly realistic. So much so that I lost any real fear of death. There is more going on then just what we see and feel in waking life. I have studied the veins in leaves on trees in lucid dreams... and was awed by the detail. I saw a Peruvian man in an old costume recently and walked around him looking at the details of his clothing. When I awoke I Googled vintage Peruvian clothing and was shocked to see how closely the fellow's garb was to what I saw on the Internet. Keep in mind I knew nothing about vintage Peruvian clothing. I have felt the walls of an old train station, watched trees 'smile' , and done hundreds of things impossible in the waking world. I had a little girl once walk up to me as I stood by a small lake and ask me if I was dead... and you know what? I did not care. The peace and wonder.. and out and out fun... of a lucid dream is the most life-affirming experience one human can have.
The way I like to put it (for anyone that wears glasses) is like a regular dream looks blurry, like I'm squinting my eyes. But when I become lucid, I feel like I put on my glasses and can see every detail possible. Funny thing is, I don't wear any glasses in my dreams.
For me, it depends on how the Lucid dream is induced. If it's Dream-Induced, it's just as (un-)realistic as the dream already was before I became lucid.
If I intentionally induced it (WILD and the like), it usually starts in my bedroom, like I have a False Awakening but *am aware* of it. Then it's realistic as real-life, since it's in a real-life setting: my bedroom.
Its more realistic! The real world is experienced externally, the dream world experienced internally! So no atmosphere, no fog, no phsyical limitations which means you can zoom up to things miles away and still see them even clearer than real life!
I cant wait to get my first lucid dream...
Definitely as real as waking life. Sometimes more real than what is real.
My first lucid dream nearly made me cry. I couldn't believe have vivid it was. I had feelings, I could taste things, and escaped to my past as well. Most of my LDs are not particularly vivid, but for the few that have been, I generally am shocked at how great they are.
I agree completely, I don't know how many times I treat dreams like real life, they're so vividQuote:
Originally Posted by lawilahd