Thread: Finger Induced Electronic Lucid Dream (FIELD)

Nice! I just saw the link from the thread with the Apple app and I like what you've done with it! I'll have to rig this up to my laptop one night - gotta find my old wireless mouse first

Thanks. You are invited to post the results on LSDBase - the logs will show how many attempts and how long it took. If you do this during an afternoon nap or during a WBTB after a few hours of sleep it will increase the odds.

I have updated the plugin and Lucid Scribe to make the mouse movements smoother.

Originally Posted by IAmCoder

Download the latest version of Lucid Scribe and the Mouse Plugin. And click on current.

Then, if you hold the mouse button down for at least 60 seconds - or less, if you move the mouse around avidly, the FIELD trigger is set and will play the anthem when the button is released again. The idea is to hold the mouse with the button pressed down as you are falling asleep and then catch yourself when you drift off and let go.

Enjoy.

Great idea! a Wireless mouse may indeed be very useful, and some come with a USB extensions that can be run closer to the bed. I would be very interested in the results.

Thanks! We could have a competition of who can hold on the longest...

With the latest version of Lucid Scribe you can now right-click on a log and export to LSDBase.

I just read your terms and conditions... I'm afraid I can't partake

.but really I installed it just then, viva le revolution!.

I'll give this one a try. ...will have to clear off some space on the night stand for a laptop and speakers first.

This has to be by far the funkiest induction technique I've read I'll give that a try tonight

Thanks, and good luck!

Pro tip: hold the mouse upside-down or sideways as the weight of a resting finger may suffice to keep the spring compressed.

I installed the program successfully, but I get this message when I open the program. I uninstalled and re-installed the program, but it still persists for me



Edit: I'll try again tomorrow. This seems something I can do (since I've been using a vibrator app for the Blackberry as an anchor for a WILD after a few hours of sleep.

I think you may find that this is an issue with the performance counters not working correctly. Can you see your CPU usage when you open perfmon (Start>Run>Perfmon)? (Not task manager.)

As a temporary work-around you can save the following text as "CPU.lsd"

Code:

<LucidScribeData>
  <Plugin>
    <Enabled>False</Enabled>
    <Baseline>
    </Baseline>
    <Color>-1</Color>
  </Plugin>
</LucidScribeData>

In the plugins directory, e.g.:
C:\Users\mcoder\Documents\lucidcode\Lucid Scribe\Plugins
C:\Documents and Settings\mcoder\My Documents\lucidcode\Lucid Scribe\Plugins

I will remove the CPU as a default plugin in the next version.

Originally Posted by IAmCoder

I think you may find that this is an issue with the performance counters not working correctly. Can you see your CPU usage when you open perfmon (Start>Run>Perfmon)? (Not task manager.)

As a temporary work-around you can save the following text as "CPU.lsd"

Code:

<LucidScribeData>
  <Plugin>
    <Enabled>False</Enabled>
    <Baseline>
    </Baseline>
    <Color>-1</Color>
  </Plugin>
</LucidScribeData>

In the plugins directory, e.g.:
C:\Users\mcoder\Documents\lucidcode\Lucid Scribe\Plugins
C:\Documents and Settings\mcoder\My Documents\lucidcode\Lucid Scribe\Plugins

I will remove the CPU as a default plugin in the next version.

I BLOODY LOVE YOU!! Thank you so much!!! Can't wait to try this after I sleep for a while. Might not pull it off the first time, but it looks like something I can do.

Also, is it possible to replace the "Anthem" music file if it doesn't help with catching awareness as we drift off? Like I could just replace it with a louder file if it's not enough for me. Never mind, it's loud enough for me

Thanks! You can replace the "Anthem.mp3" file in C:\Program Files\lucidcode\Lucid Scribe. I am working on the Playlist feature as we speak which will let you do this more elegantly and queue up different songs for each time the trigger is fired.

I'm sorry. I totally forgot last night XD I'll try to remember tonight

I woke up after a 4-4.5 hours of sleep. I started the program, it went good for a while. I caught myself drifting off and the music plays, and I regain consciousness again. But after a while, I just gave up and went back to sleep.

I'll try again this afternoon when I take a nap.

And what does "Calibration" part of the program do (for Mouse X, Y, etc.)? I didn't want to fiddle with it, so I left all of them blank

Here are some pictures of the results:







If I remember correctly, I woke up at around 4:10-4:19 AM before I started the induction technique.

I started to doze off to sleep at 12:20 AM before then, but I was testing for the trigger to start, and it's fine for me I should probably count in my head for a while to make sure that I at least past the 60 second mark every time as well.

I just realized I should use this not only as a possible induction, but to see how long it takes me to fall asleep as well I feel glad that I'm doing something scientific from my break from my University.

I should strap my mouse to my hand too so it won't leave me haha.


EDIT:

Tried making a video file, no luck with that

This picture is one with all for January 4th 2012



Hope I'm using this thing right

I took another nap at around 1:34 PM, and dozed off at about 1:53 ish PM. woke up around 3:00PM

Had a dream as well. It was kind of random, but I remembered a crap load of what I experienced. It was non-lucid though.

DJ entry: http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/link...s-idiot-28224/

Good work!

The calibration setting is for other hardware plug-ins to align the values to 1000 to fit in with the rest of the plug-ins.

What happened when you tried to make a video? Perhaps it is the compression... try this: right-click on a minute and select Export to -> Video and then press Record. Choose a file name, save and select "Microsoft Video 1" as the compressor. The anthem still has to be manually added - I use Windows Movie Maker for that which then compresses the file some more.

If you right-click on the day (04), you can select Export to -> LSDBase to post it on LSDBase.org with a summary of your observations on how long it took to fall asleep for those that are signed up for the newsletter.

Yeah, I think I'll just post my results on LSDBase instead of the videos.

Can't wait to try this again tonight. I couldn't get lucid in both times I slept today, but I did get decent recall from both.

Also, if I sent a request twice to you, I apologize for that, it's the same thing for the LSD post.

Good work man! I only received one request, so it's all good.

The featured data was set to 0059, but nothing was going on at that time, so I changed it to 05 instead. Let me know if you wanted another snapshot as the cover image.

Oh no, that's fine. I plan to attempt more, and hopefully get more accurate snapshots. And I made a response to your response on the website.

You wouldn't mind if I used my Blackberry Curve's vibration app to aid with remembering to hold on to the mouse buttons? I wrap my hand on the mouse with tape with my left, and thought that if I have constant vibrations on my right wrist, that can anchor the FIELD anchor I'm using.

Cool. I merged your responses to my response. You now hold the high-score for the longest click at 25 minutes.

And I don't mind at all if you use third-party apps or hardware.

Second day results (I plan to do this for a month if you don't mind, in hopes for other people to try it as well, and it's fun being part of private research )

I slept pretty late (around 2:30ish AM), but I woke up around 8:00 AM, typed as much as I could remember from my dreams (which took longer than 90 minutes since I was doing other things in the mean time).

I tried to do the Blackberry Curve on my right wrist combination thing, but it got annoying for me because it vibrating too loudly, so I just went back to the "tape my hand to the mouse" thing.

Overall results:


First part of overall results (I was getting ready to sleep around 9:40-ish? AM) Also I took off my vibrating Blackberry (it only took 30 seconds) because it was REALLY starting to irritate me and I went back to just using the mouse):



Second part of the overall results:

This was the fun part, my body suddenly has the urge to just let go of the buttons. In my mind I was like "What the hell is going on!?!?!" but eventually I found a stable grip.



Last part of the overall results:

Don't pay too much attention at the data from the 45 minute mark, I woke up and was going to type the dream I had from this short sleep. (I think I woke up around 11:30 PM, so maybe I held on to the mouse buttons while experiencing the dream.



I combined the dream with the other dreams I had before using the Lucid Scribe program ( even advertised this thread just for fun )

Here's the entry, and it's the last dream if you don't want to see the other weird ones in it

Dream Journal Entry 1/5/12 (Sadly it's all non-lucid)

I know this is just my second day, but already I see the dreams relating to me trying the technique out is me suddenly having the urge to kill kill kill. (You know like tap tap tap tap to shoot)

That's not normal for me, and I think the last part of the dream where Sam Fisher is injecting something to his next was probably me clicking on the mouse frantically (not too sure on that, but the dream was kind of freaking crazy for me....with all guards coming back to life even though I stabbed and shot them...)

Anyway, going to try it again as usual tonight.

Edit:

OH seems I had the dream during the 15 minute mark from the third part of the overall result.

Great stuff! I changed the title again: FIELD Day 2 (instead of 634613606596724136).

Pro tip: do not to move. At all. When the FIELD trigger fires, you may not even want to click the button again, as it might be enough to reset the brain's idle count. This is one hour into the experiment:


Also, 2. (i) kill not.

Ah I see! I was afraid that I still had to hold on to it after I realize I let go of it.

Do you suggest that once that happens and I hear the music, I should try to enter the dream state through another anchor to keep me passively aware? I'm confused

Once you hear the music you should be on the border of the dreamworld. If you move too much - or at all, really - then you may need another ~15 minutes to get there again. So try to enter a dream right then and only click the button again if nothing happens, but be as careful as possible not to move any unnecessary muscles.