I can't enter SP!!!

When I lay down for a wild session, after about 10 minutes, I get the chocking sensation. I won't be able to breath. I guess i is the starting of SP.

Now, while the sensation starts and goes on for 10 seconds(I'd be holding my breath), I'd start to suffocate. Now, I have two choices. Either I resume breathing or continue holding Breath.

When I resume breathing, this chocking sensation recedes. I can continue holding breath, but my lungs presses harder with every seconds and for how long?

Thank you

I am not sure what you mean about holding your breath? Why are you holding your breath? Did someone say you should? All you need to do for SP is keep your mind barely active, but aware, while your body goes to sleep. Don't mistake SP for some fantastic stage where you CAN NOT MOVE. You can move in SP, but it would require a direct and concious effort and you risk blowing your WILD if you move too much. You are looking for that stage when your hand will not move more than a twitch if you casually try to move it, but you sure as hell can move it if you apply will, so don't.

sivason's got a point:banana:, i guess. Thanks for the reply...

I have no idea about the breathing problem you mentioned lol. When SP sets in my chest usually gets a little heavier. My breathing also slows down as begin to relax deeper. Maybe you are paying too much attention to your breathing and overthink it and therefore you breathe deeper because thinking so intently on your breathing will trick your body into thinking you need more air, hence heavier breathing.

Ahem. Firstly I would like to say this:

Please do not suffocate yourself. That is bad.

Nextly, have you previously experienced sleep paralysis? It can be pretty scary. It happens to me more often now. I would say that if you want to trick your body into falling asleep while your mind remains conscious, this technique has worked best for that:
Lay perfectly still, not moving a muscle (swallowing is okay, and please - keep breathing). Count in your head, "1, I am dreaming, 2 I will remember my dreams, 3 I am dreaming, 4, etc." I usually reset at 100. You can change your mantra to whatever you want it to be, but the point is that it keeps your mind active and you can actually feel your limbs/body falling asleep, usually starting at your feet and moving upwards.

Another similar technique is the 61 point technique.

http://www2.madphilosopher.ca/darren...on-450x613.png

I'm taking this excerpt from Stephen Laberge, The World of Lucid Dreaming (1990).

Quote:

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1. Study the figure

The figure below illustrates 61 points on the body. To do this exercise, you need to memorize the sequence of points. (This is not difficult, because the points are arranged in a simple pattern.) They begin at the forehead, travel down and up your right arm, then across to your left arm, down your torso, down and up your right and left legs, then back up your torso to the forehead.

2. Focus your attention on one point at a time

Begin at your forehead. Focus your attention between your eyebrows and think of the number one. Keep your attention fixed at Point 1 for several seconds until you feel that your awareness of the location is clear and distinct. Think of your self being located at this point. Before moving on to the next point, you should feel a sense of warmth and heaviness at this spot.

3. Move through each point in sequence

In the same manner, successively focus your attention on each of the first thirty-one points. Proceed slowly, and imagine your self being located at each point as you reach it. Feel the sense of warmth and heaviness before moving on. Do not allow your mind to wander. At first you may find this difficult to do; you will discover that at times you suddenly will forget that you are doing the exercise and start daydreaming or thinking about something else. If you lose your place, return to the beginning or the last numbered point you attended to, and continue. Practice with thirty-one points until you can attend to them all in sequence without daydreaming or losing track.

4. Extend your practice to include all sixty-one points

When you can attend to thirty-one points in sequence, repeat Steps 1 and 2 with all sixty-one points. Practice this until you can do all points without losing your focus. Now you are ready to use this exercise with lucid dream induction techniques.

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Good luck! :cookiemonster:

I will try that 61 technique tonight. I hope it works for me.

I understand full well what the OP is talking about as I have had the same problem, when I get close to SP it feels like I almost cannot breath. I've gotten used to this feeling, it is simply your body switching from breathing out from your mouth where you experience light and quick breathing to breathing out of your nose where you experience much deeper and drawn out breaths, which is why if you watch a person sleeping you'll notice a different breathing pattern from the ordinary, and it's also recommended by some people to try and replicate this breathing pattern, maybe doing so will help you get used to the sensation of SP aswell.

The first couple of times I got this sensation I thought I was suffocating, and assumed I might have sleep apnea, this only happens if you pay far too much attention to what's happening to your body or get scared. At that point it's easy to mess up the switching process and you simply stop breathing altogether which isn't fun for anybody :cheeky:.

Biggest tip is just to realize the sensation is natural, don't try to control it or force it along in anyway you shouldn't even be monitoring your breathing/body at the point you hit SP. Instead it is better to move your attention to whatever anchor you are utilizing.

Either that or we really both have Sleep Apnea and need to get that checked out :lol: