Avalanche, omg !Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
Same happened to me.. I can't get it to work again..
-_- .. (first time i pulled off 2-3 lucids with it) now i can't even tickle myself properly ..
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Avalanche, omg !Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
Same happened to me.. I can't get it to work again..
-_- .. (first time i pulled off 2-3 lucids with it) now i can't even tickle myself properly ..
If I try to think about my dream experiences, I would say logic and rationalization are not completely suppressed.
I have many memories from past dreams which include a process of thought that seems reasonable in retrospect.
It seems to me as if a different mechanism makes us not realize that reality around us is nuts.
One of the things that works mysteriously differently in dream land is memory.
Last night I had a lucid dream and I became lucid while looking at the mirror at my half shaved beard. I became lucid when I suddenly realized I do not have a beard that looks like that and the dream kind of cracked open into a lucid experience.
My point is that if dream memory includes a weird looking beard but provides no access to anything that would suggest it ain't OK, then that beard is perfectly "logical".
It was only when memory of my real life face trickled in, that the dream cracked open and I became lucid.
I think we mainly use logic to rationalize what we see, not to doubt it.
For example, If I hypothetically go into the kitchen and find an empty cooking pan burning on the stove with no recollection at all of putting it there, I am likely to rationalize that I was extremely distracted when I put it there, even if such a thing has never happened before, and not that it was put there by aliens from Mars.
Now, if such a thing happens in a dream, memory would make it appear perfectly normal that such a pan is burning on the stove, so there would not even be a reason to do a reality check.
btw, it is interesting to note, that just as it is difficult to recall the events of a dream in waking life, it may be difficult to recall waking life memories while in a lucid dream.
Sorry mcwillis, just saw your reply..
I tried for 2 nights, but i lost count of what i was doing very quickly and fell asleep to easily so i thought maybe trying to do this technique before would somehow help (sort of kill two birds with one stone)
After 4 hours of sleep, i got up for around 3-5 minutes..
I went back to bed and I tried to visualize moving my consciousness towards the end of the left side..
I saw it as some "light" inside my head.. After about 5 minutes of doing that, I moved on to around 3 cycles of SSILD before i fell asleep..
By the way, i did the same thing and had two lucids in one night, although very short,it was the FIRST time in my 28 lucid dreams that i got lucid cause something was fishy ( normally, i either entered the dream from a waking state or simply became aware)
-sam
ps. and for those who think this is placebo, i doubt it.. i tried many things that told me i would be lucid and they never seemed to work
That's a shame. Keep practicing the technique. As you had such a powerful first experinece it might be worth your while downloading the electronic copy of Slades, 'Frontal Lobes Supercharge'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortaix
Some excellent points. I often dream that I have long hair and I don't notice this as I haven't had long hair for 15 years. My DILD's come from nightmares; dreams that break the law of physics in a blatant way and geographical dreams of where I live that have changed drastically. However, the dream that instigated this thread was different. I had thoughts like, 'How did I get here?' and immediately moved my attention to the people passing through the tunnel and asked, 'Why are these people zombie like, its as if they aren't real but phantoms instead?' It was then that I started to think about dreams and if I could actually be dreaming even though I thought that I was awake and then performed my first reality check. I only ever use a reality check once Im lucid and if the dream resembles normal waking life just to double check that I am actually dreaming. The technique seems to have increased my ability in that dream to question the nature of the dream.Quote:
Originally Posted by nir
Thanks for posting this. This was my experience and the motivation to make the thread. I thought that it was time to discard this technique to the trash can until I read your post. It seems there may be some validity to this method afterall. I am still doing the brain research and I may fine tune it if new info comes to light to improve the method.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam1r
How would you describe the technique? Because I read the first post but doing it like that doesn't work anymore. Put a different spin on it or something.
Blind me. This actually does something. When I did this before bed I had abnormally better dream recall and dream vividness but not by a huge amount. This has huge potential if you ask me.
Do you mean describe the mechanics of how to do the technique or describe the theory of why it works? Im still going through the brain experiments material that I have been looking at and it may throq up some new insights at a later time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
It has definately increased my dream vividness and ability to recall dreams. I had a very vivid one last night with perfect recall this morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by apiks
I did it again when I was taking a nap and the results were amazing. Vivid dreams again + a semi lucid dream. The amount of detail that I had in the dream was just absolutely amazing. One more try and if it works yet again just hands down to it.
I mean how to do it.
Sickest shit just happened.
I've been practicing the tickle the amygdala and direct my front part of the brain to "activate" since you guys started talking about it and I think something like that just happened.
I was sitting meditating and I had been doing it for about 10-15 minutes and I was gonna stop, but then I figured, I'll try to tickle my amygdala and imagine the front part of my brain to activate.
I was very very relaxed and I had no trouble focusing greatly on it and after a while my head just went blank and dizzy and it felt like these energy waves were sent through my entire body it was like my body was having an orgasm. It was soooo soo amazing.
And I started to breathe weirdly because of the euphoric feelings and the strong "happy" massaging waves so it started to fade, but then by just refocusing on the tickle and my front part of the brain lighting up, I managed to send these waves pretty much until I got too excited and decided to stop(it also required strong focus, which was pretty hard).
I was in that "state" for maybe.. 1 minute in total. Maybe shorter.
That's great. Could you describe the semi-lucid is that info would be interesting. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by apiks
Leaving the amygdala thread technique link aside I don't know how to make the method in the opening post more succinct. Can you describe which part or parts you don't understand and I will explain for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avalanche
I shouldn't have really put the amygdala thread link in the first post as this is mixing the whole thread up with people describing experiences for two different methods. But it is interesting that Vortaix had multiple lucids with the amygdala technique instead of the technique in the opening post. I get the energy waves often too.Quote:
Originally Posted by daban
I tried again. This time before bed. I had a hard time getting to sleep but once I went into REM, I experienced a very weird and vivid dream. Hats down to this.
As for the semi-lucid dream, I lied down and tried to take a nap, I almost reached sleep paralys when I was awoken and had to go do something then I returned,lied down and did the technique again. When I finally entered the dream state, it was normal. As the dream progressed I realized that I was dreaming but my dream goal was different. It was to escape the dream via some cassetes that play music. One for sleeping and one for awakening. It was a semi-lucid because I knew it was a dream but yet I was guided by the dream goals. Overall it was pretty vivid and strange as well.
This thing does have an effect over the amount of awareness you have during sleep. I will keep using it every night since it seems to be doing more good than some techniques for me.
Yea, no I'm totally aware of the difference of the two threads and I'm sorry for going offtopic here but I didn't read the recent posts here and when I've read this thread before, the amygdala thing was still topical.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcwillis
This is a interesting idea.
Different, I am a bit doubtful but Im still going to try it.
Thanks OP!
I had a strange lucid dream last night and I don't know if it is because of this method but it is the first time I have had a dream of this type. I was dreaming of driving down a road and there was a flashing road sign saying, 'You are dreaming.' I thought what an odd sign; why would a prankster put that up. Then I started to wonder if I could be dreaming and started to question things like, 'Where am I going?', 'How did I get here?' It didn't take long to realise that I was dreaming. This is the first time that a dream has told me that I am dreaming.
The Amygdala thing still won't work for me. Am I doing it wrong or what now?
I follow how you describe it in the first post.
i feel like a sphere and I just put the sensation of something wooden as its texture and i grip it with my fake hand to feel where it is and just hold it. This technique only worked the first few nightsQuote:
Originally Posted by mcwillis
Good results already :shock:
I will definatly give this a go! :sheepishgrin:
I tried this during my nap. I didn't become lucid, but I did have some of the most vivid and strange dreams I've had in a long time! The detail was amazing and the recall was through the roof! Thanks, man!
:banana:
People make this seem rather easy, but how can you achieve this? I've tried to go at it a few different ways, but no luck with this.
Just split your brain in half and focus on the left part of it. As if your have only the left part and the right doesn't exist. Get in some mantras to consodilate the position and try to go to sleep. When you enter Theta phase which is characterized with seeing random images (like really random but sometimes influenced by thought) you can start loosing concentratrion and fall asleep. Normally this would mean that you have fallen asleep with your brain last being most concentrated on the left side of the brain which is the logic center which would mean it would have some impact. Anyways that's how I do it since I have a hard time falling asleep I almost always get into Theta consciously for a medium-large period of time. It actually does increase something but not in a massive way if you ask me but still very very effective.
I actually own a TDCS machine and I use it when I sleep to activate my left hemisphere. I mainly use it on the logic and visual parts of my brain. It gets me great results. About 5 LD's a day. 35 LD's a week.
:O :O :O :O Where did you find such sorcery? (where did you purchase it?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Monster99d
No offense, but I think you are lying. LD Count - 5 that means either you got it yesterday and used it immediately or.... you're just a dirty lier!
To daban:
I went on elance.com and customized one to my specifications. It was about $350 for the work and $150 for the machine, so $500 all together.
I found that for dreaming I place one part of my brain that controls my logic, to allow me to lucid dream. Another part which goes on my visual cortex, which makes the world vivid. Then the last one on the part that controls my self-awareness. I have found that this is the best part of my brain for the third cathode because it increases my senses and puts the icing on the cake.