Hi, I would like to know what technique you guys all use when trying to achieve lucidity and how frequently you have lucid dreams using the technique.
Thanks :)
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Hi, I would like to know what technique you guys all use when trying to achieve lucidity and how frequently you have lucid dreams using the technique.
Thanks :)
I seem to have a particular liking for DEILD. It's perfect for me because it only takes about one minute of waking up at night. If I really really try I could get a LD every night. Its amazing how fast I've progressed with Deild since I started about four months ago. Once you know what to do Deild is super simple.
Most LDs in general come from DILD or to put it simply, they start as dreams that you become aware in. The term MILD simply means you do not leave DILDs up to chance, but do things during the day to make them more likely.
Everyone should be doing MILD techniques to some degree, and I think it is where everyone should start.
WILD requires that you learn mental skills, which are not easy and can take months to even truelly understand, much less master. So go ahead and play with WILD when ever you want, but stick to a solid MILD routine the whole time. Check out the DVA sub-forum and take the class DILD/MILD. It will help lots! Good luck and have fun!
Edit, Dutchraptor suggests DEILD and I would definately practice that long before I started a traditional WILD, like WBTB. Stay consistant with MILD and study DEILD long before WBTB or other harder types of WILD. (DEILD is considered a form of WILD, and is by a huge margine easier than WBTB)
I just go with the flow, honestly. If I wake up at 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning, I'll attempt a WILD. If lucid dreaming is a major topic on my mind throughout the day, I'll try to MILD later that night.
Surprisingly, this has been a very effective way of attaining lucidity. Many dreamers take these methods far too seriously and end up stressing themselves out, which in turn detriments both their motive and their effectiveness at lucid induction. Do whatever works for you, though! Try every technique, "play around" with sleep schedules, and take it easy on yourself.
To answer your question: EVERYTHING! :)
My technique is a form of MILD using self-hypnosis and visualization. The majority of my LD's come this way however, every now and then, I have a DILD... which is fun in itself!
I had never heard of DEILD before this post (which is surprising cuz i research LD all day long!) and I just saw it. It sounds great i think I'll try it. How long did it take you to have one using the method?
And is DEILD just a version of WILD that shortens the time it takes to induce sleep paralysis?
Boy, back in the day I had never actually seen the internet and only a couple books were out, so I did not know anything about anything other than MILD. I stumled onto WILD and DEILD. It is definately one of the best, but always have a MILD routine so you catch lots of random LDs, also.Quote:
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And is DEILD just a version of WILD that shortens the time it takes to induce sleep paralysis?
In my opinion it is only related in the fact that the classification system would get too complex. We try to lump all the styles into dreams that are already happening, in which you become lucid, and all the other involving you staying aware as you fall back to sleep.Quote:
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DEILD has the benifit of making the WILD enter straight into the REM cycle, which is by far the easiest to LD in. It has the disadvantage of you being so far gone in sleep already that yoou easily forget to stay aware.
WBTB is a pure WILD in the meditative trance sense. You actually fully awake the mind and attempt to stay aware while allowing the body to sleep.
So WILD can be the entire class of styles that involve you starting while awake. The WILD skill people talk about does not work well at the end of a day, so if you sleep for say 5ish hours and try to enter a trance with full awareness (dampened, but aware) they call it WBTB. In DEILD being good at WBTB helps, but no mental training or skill is needed. The down side, you have to naturally wake while a dream is in progress, as where traditional WBTB can be attempted a few times each night.
What are some of the reasons DEILD won't work? Everyone makes it sounds so great and easy, I don't see any reason why it shouldn't work all the time if you really put your mind to it.
WILD is my favorite technique. It works for me but it took a while to master it.
You have to wake up during a REM sleep session. It can be difficult because you want to wake up just enough but still be in a sleepy trance. Because there is such a small gap between walking up and going to sleep your body is ready for the sleep paralysis straight away. I find the hardest part to be waking up without falling back asleep, because it happens so quickly you can lose your awareness during SP.Quote:
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i read the technique for DEILD, but how do you know if you are at the end of an REM cycle or not? it says if you have just finished an REM cycle it won't work. I frequently wake up in the night after dreaming, usually 4-5 times, and I can recall the dreams, but how will I know if these are at the ends of REM cycles or in the middle?