Extreme Methods of Attaining

Well, this may be a very interesting discussion, or it may get me ostracized or banned, but, nothing ventured...

Curious what others have done in extreme attempts to attain lucidity: drugs, massive supplements of vitamins, sleep deprivation, hypnosis, shock or pain, just curious. Obviously, nobody wants to get on the web and admit to anything illigel, so don't. Still, anecdotes can surely be provided.

I have tried large amounts of choline bitartrate with some success, though it makes it difficult to lucid dream when you stop taking it. I have considered salvia, which I have not tried yet.

Have you looked at these forums, there are a lot of threads on different substances, and also research and experiments on their effect on dreams. There are lots of legal dream enhancers by the way to try out, so take you time to read about the possibilities. Take care! :)

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The most extreme method i use is to prolong my WILD attempts to 4 hours until i get exhausted, which has resulted in many DILDs and OBEs ( WILDs in my bed room ? ) and sometimes a strong REM rebound next night ! sometimes i can´t fall asleep again, which is ofc very disappointing after wasting sleep time.

I don't think hypnosis can be counted as an 'extreme' method, seems to be perfectly fine and some people here on dreamviews are using it to help in lucid dreaming as far as i know, and also technically mantras that we do for lucid dreaming are also can be somewhat counted as an form of self-hypnosis on the some level, i think. :-?
And as far as the 'extreme' methods i used, i only used some sleep deprivation when i was starting out and didn't know much about lucid dreaming, unsuccessfully to say. :P

I tried an experiment once last summer where I tried a sort of WILD 'relaxation' attempt (*edit*) using water one afternoon which was a little bit dangerous, especially as I was on my own at the time.

http://www.dreamviews.com/blogs/high...e-notes-37293/