WID - non-lucid WILD

So...I can lay in bed for an hour and a half and fall asleep into a wake-induced dream. However, out of the five times I've done this, only once have I realized I'm dreaming, and turned lucid. The other four times, my induced dreams last less than a minute, and I wake right up after they end.

I did some searching and didn't find anything helpful. I'm pretty sure it has to do with a lack of affirmation right as I start vibrating and falling into the dream. I guess I really don't like trading an hour and a half of sleep for 15 to 30 seconds of dream.

Has anyone had this problem? If so, what did you change to fix this? What do the successful WILDers tell/remind themself to do right before falling into the dream?

I can't give you first hand information about how to succesfully perform a WILD, unfortunately.. But when I start to doze off while trying to WILD,(which is what I think to cause a WID, as you call it) I just try to regain conciousness by talking to my subconscious mind, as person to person. I just ask him to guide me through it and just... well 'talk' to 'him'. It hasn't worked so far, but this way I can concentrate for a long time and get really relaxed. I just keep talking to 'him'.

How long have you been doing this? Usually beginners encounter the problem of staying asleep. What happens right before you wake up? perhaps you are getting too excited or even the simple "rush" of becoming lucid will wake you. If this is the case, then you have to calm down. Once lucid, stop whatever you're doing, and collect yourself/be calm. That is essential. Ignore your dream environment and detach yourself from the "plot" of your dream.

You didn't really give much information so i dont know if that helped...

If this still becomes a problem and no one answers(which isn't surprising since this isn't a very active part of the forum, then i can move it for you to a more popular area.

The first time this happened was when I joined the forums, almost a month ago. This following takes place within 30 seconds:
I am on the verge of slipping into the WID, with SP and vibrations. I fall into a dream that carries on for 15 to 30 seconds then it finishes, and I wake up. Thanks for the help.

It should be noted that I have a recent tendency to wake up when the majority of my dreams end. I'm not so sure excitement is the problem...I had a 30 second WID that I orgasmed in (see second quote), and that didn't wake me. My problem is I don't realize I'm dreaming. I have the 15 to 30 seconds to become lucid so I can take control. If I don't, I wake right back up. Here are my descriptions of two of the four failed WILDs.

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I am on my bed and I feel this intensity around building me. I then feel like some invisible person is sitting on top of me having sex with me. Then it goes away, and my eyelids become diaphanous. They change into a brown sheet that is thinly woven, where you can see through the perpendicular threads. Then I see the wall, and the same thing happens to it, I see through it. Then I can see the sky and stars, even though I'm looking level with the horizon. Then the hole becomes a giant movie screen and I see an orange fish on an otherwise black screen. The fiery orange bled into the black.[/b]

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I fell asleep on my belly, which is rare. I think I fell asleep with an erection too (tough to do). The dream lasted less than a minute, and I woke up hard. I see my walls are a dark gray stone material. I am in bed in the same position I fell asleep. I continue fantasizing about the woman I was thinking of just before nodding off. I feel a warmth in my genital region. It's a vagina, but it's not from a person, but from a spirit. It is quite warm, but there isn't a lot of pressure. I see myself in third person, and I'm not wearing underwear. The vagina moves back and forth slowly, and by the third stroke I've lost it.

I decide just to let it out onto my sheets, that I would clean it up in the morning. The orgasm came, and I released some energy, I feel it radiate away from me. The contractions were drawn out and slow. It wasn't that intense, but it was like my entire penis would fill with ejaculate, then a contraction would push it out into a several inch strip, like a caulk gun.

I wonder what kind of mess looks like that I'm making, I wanted to see the strips of semen. All of a sudden, I'm standing over a desk and I see my mess. I completely ruined someone's keyboard. I wonder if a doctor has ever had an embarassing problem and wrote themself a prescription to fix it. Finally, I hear Loveline going. The caller is giving bull about how he's such a fan, and Adam and Dr. Drew aren't buying it.

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Last night I successfully WILDed. I think the big key was doing this in between 5AM and 6AM rather than the usual midnight hour. I also made sure to tell myself "I am dreaming" x6 when I felt the vibrations overcoming me.

Hopefully more WILDs in the near future.

how do u stay concsious long enough to get to vibrations and sp. i feel numb but then fall asleep

I keep my legs still, and let the paralysis crawl up them while moving my arms around some (i.e. playing with my nipples...it helps to pass the time). Then the SP will be at your waist, and you may already have vibrations by then. Then stop moving your arms since you are already half way there.

That, and I also have trouble falling asleep. It's normal for me to go to sleep just after 10PM and not fall asleep until after midnight.

uhhh, great tip. haha

this morning i tried the standard WBTB WILD. i didnt see anything and fell asleep on accident. i did however wake to consciousness and then tried to continue the wild, but was waaaaaaay too tired and just fell asleep. my hands did hurt with SP and i almost could not move my left arm at all. either way i was too out of it to stay through another wild attempt. that could of been when i had my FA/OBE/LD this morning, not sure when exactly.

i may just do more milds than wilds.

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Originally posted by jay dawg
uhhh, great tip. haha

this morning i tried the standard WBTB WILD. i didnt see anything and fell asleep on accident. i did however wake to consciousness and then tried to continue the wild, but was waaaaaaay too tired and just fell asleep. my hands did hurt with SP and i almost could not move my left arm at all. either way i was too out of it to stay through another wild attempt. that could of been when i had my FA/OBE/LD this morning, not sure when exactly.

i may just do more milds than wilds.

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I also tried it again this night with some better results. I think the most important thing, for me, was to keep saying that I was dreaming. After 30min of keeping that thought I already started to feel a bit more diconnected from the world. So on I went "I'm dreaming. I'm dreaming. I'm dreaming. I'm dreaming. I'm dreaming..." I just kind of floated away in my own thoughts. Well nothing unusual until I got this sudden sensation. My eyes started to vibrate heavily and my whole body felt different. I think I started to see some things, but a full blatter was annoying me and finally made me go to the bathroom :| Shit happens.

It usually takes me about an hour before "things" start to happen for me. Try to talk to yourself (or your subconsciousness) through the whole process. It seems to keep my mind a bit active. I always figured it would be a gentle process, but it just struck me as lightning. So don't give up. Even a noob like me can get some results :mrgreen:

HA! I AM WILD GOD AGAIN! sorta :P

i went to bed extremely stoned. i tried doing wild at night and o man, a few minutes into it my eyes locked up in that buggy REM mode deal. the hi moved really fast and i felt like i was moving into my mind or something. felt so weird. i then noticed a buzzing/ringing sound getting louder until i opened my eyes. you im back on the road of the "chicken out reverse wilds" again. ive done it before but i think the previous wilds turned into an LD MILD so to speak. but this is the farthest in mentally ive felt. needless to say im going to try it again while really high and see if i can stick through the buzzing sound! BTW i had great recall and some bizzare dreams too. off to try wbtb wild (unhigh for now).

i think this sheds new light on the idea of wilds at night, kinda. is the buzzing normal and will it stop after i transition? anyone?

Bro i am so jealous if only drug tests did not exist i could do what you do until a method comes along to not pee positive i will enjoy life sober :cry: DA*N U lol

dang dude tell your parents to shove off. if they feel that they must control you in this way, atleast try and inform them of how great treez is and inform them of their misinformed mind. :mrgreen:

i urge you to make your parents listen to this presentation immidiately!!
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/flash/hemp.html

Where do you find this stuff at lol I doubt this would be convincing to my parents they would say "i dont want you using drugs" etc. etc. etc. are you saying your parents allow the use of herb? If so that is crazy i only know two people who parents allow them to smoke strangly enough there parents also smoked when they are younger wish i had these parents :(

well, im 20 so they know they cant tell me what to do anyway but, yeah they dont mind. my dad says he wishes i didnt, my mom is cool with it but likes to pretend shes not! its hilarious. but when i started at the end of age 17, she was cool with it then more than now! most stoner parents like to lie and trick their kids into not doing it, but mine know they did it ALL the time back in the day, so they cant say anything :oops: