Hey guys! So I've tried a couple lucid dreaming techniques (FILD and WILD), and i can't seem to lucid dream at all! I always fall asleep before I get to "create" my dream or even see any hypnagogic images. I don't get it, am I doing something wrong?
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Hey guys! So I've tried a couple lucid dreaming techniques (FILD and WILD), and i can't seem to lucid dream at all! I always fall asleep before I get to "create" my dream or even see any hypnagogic images. I don't get it, am I doing something wrong?
no help?
Hiya!
How long have you tried those techniques for, and how are you performing them? How is your dream recall?
I have tried both both of them about 8-10 times, I am performing them as the youtube channel "I Love Lucid Dreaming" and "GizEdwards" have explained them. I recall not too many of my dreams however quite recently i remember having a dream about me flying and having wings, also visiting a fictional school and interacting with the students there (no, not Harry Potter XD) and hearing scary stories about a monster living in a lake right beside the school. That school is from a book that I'm currently reading and i saw a portion of them movie which was based on that book, and in the film i saw the exact same school. So I think that i only remember dreams where i am experiencing very unsual and exciting things.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralMango
Ah, so in his WILD video one of the steps are sleep paralysis. Don't aim for SP when WILDing - it's not the main goal. The goal is to fall asleep but with some awareness. As you are falling asleep you might get HH.
Thanks, I'll think about that the next time I try WILD :). However, the problem for me seems to be that i always fall asleep before entering a dream and I always lose consciousness.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstralMango
Oh, what you need is an anchor to keep yourself aware, but only just aware so that you can still fall asleep. It's a balancing act. :movingmrgreen:
Here's a great WILD guide that talks about mental anchors: http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...ild-guide.html
Since you're new to lucid dreaming, you should take a slower approach. Start with a dream journal. You mentioned your recall is not the best. Start there. Also try doing some reality checks throughout the day. (And remember when you're doing an RC, don't just check if you're dreaming, stop and think about what you would do if you were dreaming, etc. There are posts on here about RCs if you aren't familiar with everything you should do). After that, try for lucid, but I would recommend trying DILD first. WILD is more advanced and you don't want to get frustrated when you don't succeed. I know that it is frustrating when you don't begin lucid dreaming right away, but be patient. It's definitely worth it. Start with a foundation and work your way up.
This website has lots of forums that can help you so you should browse through them first. Good luck.
Dream journal is basic and very important. Start it today!
I will give you one single technique, try it 3-5 days and you should have a LD. The main basis of it is that LD /OBE is easier to achieve after waking up rather than before going to sleep, after waking up we are RELAXED and RESTED... two things that are very important for LD.
Here is the technique:
1- Before going to bed spend 3-5 minutes repeating "When I wake up during the night I don't move a muscle or open my eyes" or something similar
2- You will eventually find yourself awake in the night or early morning and will recall this petition, follow it, don't move or open your eyes!
3- Start picturing anything such as your last recalled dream or any setting you want, for example picture yourself walking through a forest,feel the wind, the soil, etc. Make it as real as you can.
4- Once you start seeing what you pictured or any other setting start engaging it... move! touch things!. Once it feels solid enough proceed with whatever you want to do.
You should be able to enter a LD within a minute in this way, we all have several awakenings during the night so these offers several tries in a single day. Good luck!
We all can LD so don't become frustrated, use your unsuccessful as fuel to keep you going. Any attempt has something valuable in it so keep trying!
Thanks! I've not heard of this technique before and can't wait to explore it. Would you recommend this over WBTB?Quote:
Originally Posted by jzinser
Yes, this technique has probably 95% success rate... the hardest part is waking up and not moving or opening the eyes as we tend to do this almost automatically. This is why you have to condition your mind not to do this, shouldn't take more than a couple days before it happens at least once
i would advice not to make "false" promises like
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try it 3-5 days and you should have a LD
you can say what helps YOU or work for YOU.Quote:
this technique has probably 95% success rate
this might work for you but not for everyone. maybe you have already a good dream recall, maybe you know your sleep, maybe you are more aware or maybe....
there are a lot of threads like this one: http://www.dreamviews.com/general-lu...times-how.html
and are like: wow i did a "insert random awesome shortcut that makes everything super easy" and i had 4 lucids in one night or two lucids in the past two days. this is ONEHUNDRED% success rate... and everyone is like yea that sounds awesome and i will try tonight for sure. "to good to be true"...and soon you hear that it was a one hit wonder and the success rate goes down and down and in the end one might even get some progress with this approach but its work and not a lucid shortcut.
you need to work on the fundamentals or it wont work or will be mere coincidence. lucid dreaming has no "shortcut" you can compare it to learning an instrument or sports or any hobby. its no magic it is not difficult. but to be a lucid dreamer and not just have one lucid dream its work. you dont get awesome over night it needs month and years. sure riding a bike is not difficult but nevertheless it was not like "hey i tell you what i did it had 100% success: you jump on it and start paddling and in 3 days you will know how to downhill because in the end it is just riding a bike"
Its not just me... but yeah you're right we are all different.
I think though, that after people have their first LD they get much more engaged... so this first step is critical. Otherwise many will stop it and don't try again.
Of course, to have a stable practice and developing further into LD you need to have a toolbox of techniques and of course experience! But have this ONE lucid dream can happen the very first night you try .
Relying purely on DILD or WILD might take a lot longer, these techniques are nice to have and WILD for example is probably the only way to have LDs on demand once you master it. But they also require more time and not seeing results in a couple of weeks might cause many to drop the practice
Reality checks throughout the day, keep lucid dreaming on your mind. Read a book or two, browse the forums, recognize dream signs, take notes, leave reminders to RC during the day... try WILD and DILD like jzinser mentioned. Drink a cup of *sweet dreams* tea an hour/half hour before bed. Sleep at least 8 full hours, no distractions. No light or sound, etc. You are almost there, just give it time and your full attention. Like studying for a test!
8 - 10 times..? You haven't even started yet, it's not an over night activity, unfortunately..! What jzinser is explaining is one of the easiest methods I've come across, but it takes discipline, so stick with it..! It sounds crazy hard, but you can train yourself not to move or open your eyes when you wake and when you do it right, you get immediate results, every time, just don't forget that SP or it'll sneak up on you and spoil it all..! That's the only obstacle I'm facing now, I keep losing my nerve and waking up, but my SP is particularly scary..! Also, journal..!!! Good luck..!